Food beyond its sell by date.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-09-2016 11:56PM

Joeytheparrot wrote:

There is a gas put into the plastic bag to keep them fresh once the bag opens the gas is released

Nitrogen I think. Bacteria can't grow in nitrogen so it's packed in there. Again it's all about look feel, smell and taste

Annasopra · 25-09-2016 11:57PM

Yeah I never believe the dates.

Eggs are fine upto a month after.

If there is a bit of mould on cheese or bread I cut the mouldy part off

Veg is generally ok for upto a week after the date.

Meat and fish are the one thing I'd be wary of.

I also often buy products about to go out of date and reduced price and freeze them and they are all good.

fin12 · 26-09-2016 12:00AM

I just eat an apricot yogurt that had the 9th of September on it, wasn't sure at first to eat it but it was absolutely perfect, have eaten crisps that are nearly a year past the sell by date.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 26-09-2016 12:23AM

I'm currently using whey protein powder (as a training supplement) which is over three years out of date, and I've about another 30kgs of it to go ~ I'm still here to tell the tale

Day Lewin · 26-09-2016 12:31AM

I eat everything that feels fresh, looks good and smells ok. I never come to any harm.

Not recommending this, of course, in case some soft, weak people of delicate constitution were to follow my example and get all sick.

But I can do it 'cos I'm strong, me. Pink of health, too.

learn_more · 26-09-2016 12:32AM

I worked as a cook for a good few years.

I can tell when something is off by looking at it but mostly rely on smelling it, or even a combination of both.

Something can be on the verge of going off, but can still be totally okay if it's not eaten raw , and you cook it.

I have no problem buying food gone by its sell by date that you can sometimes find discounted in supermarket. You can get some real bargains , especially with meat, virtually for nothing.

I'm talking about plain foodstuff though, not ready meals or processed stuff in cans or jars, which I wouldn't eat anyway as those kinds of things are crap even within their sell-by date.

kylith · 26-09-2016 12:52AM

katemarch wrote: »

I eat everything that feels fresh, looks good and smells ok. I never come to any harm.

Not recommending this, of course, in case some soft, weak people of delicate constitution were to follow my example and get all sick.

But I can do it 'cos I'm strong, me. Pink of health, too.

Bloke I used to share a house with used to purposely leave stuff to go off to 'train his system' so he wouldn't get food poisoning in restaurants. He was.... unique.

El_Duderino 09 · 26-09-2016 06:19PM

kylith wrote:

Bloke I used to share a house with used to purposely leave stuff to go off to 'train his system' so he wouldn't get food poisoning in restaurants. He was.... unique.

There's something to be said for that. Eating meat that's 'high' will introduce extra bacteria to your system and you can actually train the system to deal with it. I can't imagine letting good food go out of date just to train the system.

He could just go to decent restaurants that observe food hygiene instead.

Capt'n Midnight · 26-09-2016 06:44PM

Stigura wrote: »

1. How the f**k did the human race last so long, without 'Dates' printed on their food?

And how come life expectancy now is nearly double what it used to be, before best before dates ?

RayM · 26-09-2016 06:49PM

I bought an almost-out-of-date Bombay Pantry chicken curry ready meal on Friday (reduced from €5 to €2.50). I didn't get round to eating it until today, three days past the use-by date.

It tasted fine and I feel fine.

freshpopcorn · 26-09-2016 06:57PM

Fruit and Vegetables are generally fine a few days out.
Cheese is also grand even when it's a bit out of date.
I wouldn't trust meat or fish that's out of date but in generally meat/fish never really goes off on us.
When I think of it food rarely goes off on us apart from something we don't want and generally we just throw it out.
I find milk goes off once it's opened after a few days.

ectoraige · 26-09-2016 07:05PM

kylith wrote: »

Bloke I used to share a house with used to purposely leave stuff to go off to 'train his system' so he wouldn't get food poisoning in restaurants. He was.... unique.

Did he have a thing for iocain powder, by any chance?

Olishi4 · 26-09-2016 07:11PM

RayM wrote: »

I bought an almost-out-of-date Bombay Pantry chicken curry ready meal on Friday (reduced from €5 to €2.50). I didn't get round to eating it until today, three days past the use-by date.

It tasted fine and I feel fine.

Even if it tasted fine, stupid I know, but thinking "oh this could be off" before eating it would turn me off the food.

I've cooked meat before that was a day past the date and it's like every mouthful I was thinking "mmmmm....this could be off"

Not very appetizing even if the food turns out to be fine.

two wheels good · 26-09-2016 07:17PM

Letree wrote: »

Mixed leaves are a mystery to me. Sometimes it says eat within 24 or 48 hours of opening. Why they are only a type of lettuce or spinach or some other leabe. Why such a short time?

You can revive lettuce and salad leaves by:
- soaking in cold water
- adding lemon juice or vinegar to the water helps too.

MadYaker · 26-09-2016 07:18PM

If it's in date and looks and smells fine I use it. If it's out of date but looks and smells fine I use it. If it doesn't look and smell fine I bin it. Ive yet to poison myself or anyone else.

Summer wind · 26-09-2016 07:31PM

I've had food poisoning and even though it was years ago I'd never risk eating anything even slightly passed its sell or best buy. Sweet holy Jesus the puking the ****ting and the violent stomach pain. It lasted over a week and I lost more than half a stone in weight. If in doubt throw it out.

Stigura · 26-09-2016 09:50PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

And how come life expectancy now is nearly double what it used to be, before best before dates ?

Dunno. And what has TB, SmallPox, Spanish Flu, massive advances in modern medicine etc. etc. etc ever had to do with a six pack of water saturated bacon, vacuum sealed in plastic and stamped with a date?

Do all old people these days get to their age, because of these dates? Do they then disregard these dates and so drop dead?

Are ye suggesting these ink stamps have preserved humanity? Are there not tribal people, to this day, who wouldn't know what a date stamped pack of watery bacon was, if ye gave them one? Going since the dawn of man. Still going. Washing in cow piss.

Granted. I have no idea their personal life spans. But, their tribes seem to have done alright.

Speedwell · 26-09-2016 09:52PM

Stigura wrote: »

Dunno. And what has TB, SmallPox, Spanish Flu, massive advances in modern medicine etc. etc. etc ever had to do with a six pack of water saturated bacon, vacuum sealed in plastic and stamped with a date?

Do all old people these days get to their age, because of these dates? Do they then disregard these dates and so drop dead?

Are ye suggesting these ink stamps have preserved humanity? Are there not tribal people, to this day, who wouldn't know what a date stamped pack of watery bacon was, if ye gave them one? Going since the dawn of man. Still going. Washing in cow piss.

Granted. I have no idea their personal life spans. But, their tribes seem to have done alright.

This.

Stigura · 26-09-2016 09:55PM

Olishi4 wrote: »

I've cooked meat before that was a day past the date and it's like every mouthful I was thinking "mmmmm....this could be off" Not very appetizing even if the food turns out to be fine.

Olishi; This is what I can't fathom. I buy my flesh in town. From Hugh. He buys live creatures from the land here abouts. He kills them. Cuts them up. I buy bits. These bits have no ink on them.

How am I to tell when they become lethal bits of meat that will kill me if I eat them?

Am I going to die, any dinner time?! :eek:

Speedwell · 26-09-2016 09:59PM

Stigura wrote: »

Olishi; This is what I can't fathom. I buy my flesh in town. From Hugh. He buys live creatures from the land here abouts. He kills them. Cuts them up. I buy bits. These bits have no ink on them.

How am I to tell when they become lethal bits of meat that will kill me if I eat them?

Am I going to die, any dinner time?! :eek:

You made that determination when you decided to trust Hugh to sell you bits of cut-up animal carcasses that would be safe to eat for at least a couple days provided you kept and prepared them under proper hygienic conditions.

Stigura · 26-09-2016 09:59PM

Speedwell wrote: »

This.

" CauseListeria monocytogenes is ubiquitous in the environment. The main route of acquisition of Listeria is through the ingestion of contaminated food products. Listeria has been isolated from raw meat, dairy products, vegetables, fruit and seafood. Soft cheeses, unpasteurized milk and unpasteurised pâté are potential dangers; however, some outbreaks involving post-pasteurized milk have been reported. "

That. " ubiquitous in the environment. " I see absolutely no causative / linked relationship with 'Best By' dates on your supermarket fare. No more than I can find such dates on my own lumps of flesh.

Speedwell · 26-09-2016 10:01PM

Stigura wrote: »

That. " ubiquitous in the environment. " I see absolutely no causative / linked relationship with 'Best By' dates on your supermarket fare. No more than I can find such dates on my own lumps of flesh.

If it was really ubiquitous and universal, one of two things would be the case: either you would have a natural immunity, or you would be dead by now. Instead I am prepared to believe that you have had no toxic exposure, or you have had food poisoning in the past from a rare instance of toxic ingestion.

Stigura · 26-09-2016 10:01PM

Speedwell wrote: »

You made that determination when you decided to trust Hugh to sell you bits of cut-up animal carcasses that would be safe to eat for at least a couple days provided you kept and prepared them under proper hygienic conditions.

How about when I go out and kill something natural and wild? Should I look for its sell by date? Or, will eating it kill me?

Stigura · 26-09-2016 10:02PM

Speedwell wrote: »

If it was really ubiquitous and universal, one of two things would be the case: either you would have a natural immunity, or you would be dead by now.

You quoted it at me. Ye now questioning ye own sources

Speedwell · 26-09-2016 10:03PM

Stigura wrote: »

How about when I go out and kill something natural and wild? Should I look for its sell by date? Or, will eating it kill me?

I suppose that as its slaughterer, you would know better than I would. Of course, that assumes that you were fully aware of the health of the animal before you slaughtered it in a safe and hygienic way.

Speedwell · 26-09-2016 10:04PM

Stigura wrote: »

You quoted it at me. Ye now questioning ye own sources

Seriously? Drink water between those, Stig.

Stigura · 26-09-2016 10:07PM

Speedwell; You seem to have offered ye own contradiction to my ideas by showing me a wikipedia page.

I took one look at said page and showed You what it was saying.

It appeared, to me, to be contradicting ye own point.

And now ye tell me to drink water? Should I search around the spring for a sell by date? Written on a stone, perhaps?

Speedwell · 26-09-2016 10:08PM

Is this still an argument? Do you want to win? OK, you win. Go poison yourself in whatever way you find toughest and manliest.

Stigura · 26-09-2016 10:17PM

Argument? This is a forum, isn't it? Supposedly a place to exchange and discuss points of view? If I wanted an argument, I'd go into town and ask some randomer in a pub about the contents of his fridge, and the numbers stamped on it.

No. I simply don't, personally, subscribe to this new fangled religion of the stamp. I didn't expect to get ridiculed for my,possibly, Dated views! (I Know ye see what I did there! :P) But, I certainly wasn't looking to get embroiled in, let alone " win " any arguments about it.

Hell, I was cutting down enemy soldiers by the swaive, last night. How Manly's that? PS3 proves my maliness to me. Not 'Arguing' on internet boards :pac:

Speedwell · 26-09-2016 10:24PM

LOL, fine. Don't invite me to dinner at your place.

Food beyond its sell by date.

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