Are You Sick of Being Told How to Think?

ClovenHoof · 21-09-2016 06:29PM #1

Mainly by people who have only one ability in this life, and that is to do as they are told in accordance with the prevailing social and cultural model of the age?

I was thinking about all these civil servants such as you get moderating this site who seem to think they are the default version of what a properly functioning Irish person in 2016 should be. Hence, why any deviation in thinking (even honest examination) of social/cultural dynamics/tropes which would fly in the face of government social engineering is considered an aberration to be chastised at the very least, or destroyed if necessary.

This quote and article really brought this home to me:

He thinks people should act according to their best interests and he knows their interests, particularly if they are “red necks” or English non-crisp-vowel class who voted for Brexit. When plebeians do something that makes sense to them, but not to him, the IYI uses the term “uneducated”. What we generally call participation in the political process, he calls by two distinct designations: “democracy” when it fits the IYI, and “populism” when the plebeians dare voting in a way that contradicts his preferences.

https://medium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577#.kpmhxme60

Why should we allow the 'has a good pension' drones and bots who are only good for passing exams and doing as they are told, set the agenda for Irish society, when all history has shown that it is the mavericks and creative types who actually improve and enrich the trajectory of the human story?

Are the Politically Correct types of today, any more enlightened or legitimate in terms of upholding the present values of this society, compared to the previous catholic holy rollers who sung Ave Maria when the condom trains arrived at Connolly Station from Belfast?

From where I am stranding they are just the same types, with a different working model to enforce is all.

The_Valeyard · 21-09-2016 06:44PM

Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.

oppenheimer1 · 21-09-2016 06:47PM

ClovenHoof wrote: »

Mainly by people who have only one ability in this life, and that is to do as they are told in accordance with the prevailing social and cultural model of the age?

I was thinking about all these civil servants such as you get moderating this site who seem to think they are the default version of what a properly functioning Irish person in 2016 should be. Hence, why any divination in thinking and diversion (even honest examination) of social/cultural dynamics/tropes which would fly in the face of government social engineering is considered an aberration to be chastised at the very least, or destroyed if necessary.

This quote and article really brought this home to me:

Why should we allow the 'has a good pension' drones and bots who are only good for passing exams and doing as they are told, set the agenda for Irish society, when all history has shown that it is the mavericks and creative types who actually improve and enrich the trajectory of the human story?

Are the Politically Correct types of today, any more enlightened or legitimate in terms of upholding the present values of this society, compared to the previous catholic holy rollers who sung Ave Maria when the condom trains arrived at Connolly Station from Belfast?

From where I am stranding they are just the same types, with a different working model to enforce is all.

Is the question, "should the people who are responsible and educated lead society?"

If that's what you're asking, then yes, of course they should.

Also, how can drones and bots following the crowd set the agenda?

arayess · 21-09-2016 07:00PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Is the question, "should the people who are responsible and educated lead society?"

If that's what you're asking, then yes, of course they should.

Also, how can drones and bots following the crowd set the agenda?

do you really believe that ****e?
How determines who are "responsible and educated"?

The simpsons clearly demonstrated was a clusterfcuk the council of the learned were when they ran Springfield

ezra_pound · 21-09-2016 07:06PM

People in this country have had enough of experts.

oppenheimer1 · 21-09-2016 07:10PM

arayess wrote: »

do you really believe that ****e?
How determines who are "responsible and educated"?

The simpsons clearly demonstrated was a clusterfcuk the council of the learned were when they ran Springfield

Oh we're arguing on the basis of what happened in the Simpsons? Interesting :rolleyes:

Stheno · 21-09-2016 07:10PM

Someone needs to tell the mods they are civil servants :eek:

oppenheimer1 · 21-09-2016 07:10PM

ezra_pound wrote: »

People in this country have had enough of experts.

What do they know anyway

Ted111 · 21-09-2016 07:11PM

I was think of start paying in to a pension scheme

Boom_Bap · 21-09-2016 07:19PM

Stheno wrote: »

Someone needs to tell the mods they are civil servants :eek:

I serve no one neither civilly or in an uncivil manner.

Badly Drunk Boy · 21-09-2016 07:24PM

Ted111 wrote: »

I was think of start paying in to a pension scheme

(I think it isn't quite as bad if it's not a government pension. Go for it, but just don't start waving it in front of ClovenHoof.)

alchemist33 · 21-09-2016 07:26PM

I tried to read the linked article but it was just so full of jargon it was unintelligible to anyone but the writers best friends and internet buddies

ToddyDoody · 21-09-2016 07:31PM

I think therefore I spam.

the evasion_kid · 21-09-2016 07:53PM

I only come onto boards so people can give me their version of what I think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiUB05b2Y1s

Means Of Escape · 21-09-2016 07:56PM

Silence ,Number Six

SEPT 23 1989 · 21-09-2016 07:56PM

I fully agree with your tirade

21-09-2016 07:59PM

Stheno wrote: »

Someone needs to tell the mods they are civil servants :eek:

You're a civil servant, Stheno. I know this is probably news to you.

Sorry 'bout that.

arayess · 21-09-2016 08:43PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Oh we're arguing on the basis of what happened in the Simpsons? Interesting :rolleyes:

rolleyes all you want....if it makes you feel better.

the simpsons gave a fairly accurate commentary on american life which isn't too far removed from our life

I for one believe being rules by intellectuals would be a disaster.

Pherekydes · 21-09-2016 08:55PM

Stheno wrote: »

Someone needs to tell the mods they are civil servants :eek:

You can't be sacked!

Stheno · 21-09-2016 08:59PM

Pherekydes wrote: »

You can't be sacked!

Hmm I never thought of that :pac:

Amanda.ie · 21-09-2016 09:06PM

Stheno wrote: »

Hmm I never thought of that :pac:

And you have flexi hours, term time, gold plated pension and not forgetting the fact you don't need work at all.

:p

Stheno · 21-09-2016 09:11PM

Amanda.ie wrote: »

And you have flexi hours, term time, gold plated pension and not forgetting the fact you don't need work at all. :p

Have you seen the list of forums I mod??????:

Amanda.ie · 21-09-2016 09:13PM

Stheno wrote: »

Have you seen the list of forums I mod??????:

Ya sure only a civil servant would have the time

I was been sarcastic btw:p Im sure your not a civil servant.

Stheno · 21-09-2016 09:14PM

Amanda.ie wrote: »

Ya sure only a civil servant would have the time

I was been sarcastic btw:p Im sure your not a civil servant.

You're fine

Atoms for Peace · 21-09-2016 09:21PM

That article is nothing but strung together buzzwords.

21-09-2016 09:26PM

ezra_pound wrote: »

People in this country have had enough of experts.

Correction, we have had enough of 'experts'.

People like the credit ratings agencies who were paid vast sums of money to tell us our economy was in great health.

These ratings agencies somehow retain their reputation and are still cited nowadays as the ultimate arbiters of a country's debt sustainability.

Jesus. · 21-09-2016 09:30PM

ClovenHoof wrote: »

I was thinking about all these civil servants such as you get moderating this site who seem to think they are the default version of what a properly functioning Irish person in 2016 should be.

Very much so (no offence to the Mods). This modern pansy ass sh1t of everyone saying they're "offended" by everything is vomit inducing. I've never been "offended" in my entire life yet some people are offended multiple times per day!

Its a snaky way of stopping critical thinking and its actually working.

Outlaw Pete · 21-09-2016 09:35PM

Yes I do and I'm sick of it!! Lets start a revolution!!!

Tomorrow, I wanna watch TV and get a take away tonight.

Samaris · 21-09-2016 09:57PM

Stheno wrote: »

Someone needs to tell the mods they are civil servants :eek:

I missed that memo too.

At least everyone else only gets told what to think, the bolded script means we get told what we are too! :pac:

osarusan · 21-09-2016 10:03PM

That article reads like something you'd submit to a journal to test whether it's actually legitimate and peer-reviewed or whether they are just predatory publishers of everything they get.

GLaDOS · 21-09-2016 10:05PM

You're right OP, I am!

Thanks for telling me.

Are You Sick of Being Told How to Think?

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