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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Feck!
    Didn't realise the weather has been that bad.
    Zerograzers are the work of the devil (:))....tried it a couple of years ago. Won't be going there again.
    Then again I suppose they've a place somewhere...


    Just along the west coast dawgy dawg dawg! East of the country escaping tonight anyway....

    Why didn't ya fancy it?? Heap of zero grazers round here.....

    And was surprised when I looked at the back page of the journal I think to see a couple of well known farmers using zero grazers.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yewtree


    Think they have a place if used in spring and autumn and can get a contractor to do it as mj said
    One of the lads in Dg has one he reckons if it's too wet to graze with cows it's to wet to zero graze don't think they are s solution to heavy ground


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Just along the west coast dawgy dawg dawg! East of the country escaping tonight anyway....

    Why didn't ya fancy it?? Heap of zero grazers round here.....

    And was surprised when I looked at the back page of the journal I think to see a couple of well known farmers using zero grazers.....

    I didn't fancy it at the time because after doing the figures it needs grass to be over 22% pr. Problem with grass at that pr% and ground conditions mucky...dm is on the floor. Expensive water.

    Not taking from anyone that's using the system now. It's just not for me, that's all.





    Btw. I'm not much of a Dawgy Dawg Dawg...I may bite! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,449 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I didn't fancy it at the time because after doing the figures it needs grass to be over 22% pr. Problem with grass at that pr% and ground conditions mucky...dm is on the floor. Expensive water.

    Not taking from anyone that's using the system now. It's just not for me, that's all.





    Btw. I'm not much of a Dawgy Dawg Dawg...I may bite! :)

    Testing grass here throughout the year.
    Lowest pr test this yr was 23% dmd always high 80s. Dm a difervent storey


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Testing grass here throughout the year.
    Lowest pr test this yr was 23% dmd always high 80s. Dm a difervent storey

    Foliar analysis?

    Edit.
    I found that clover (sorry, cuss word) was needed to have any pr consistency.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,449 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Foliar analysis?

    Edit.
    I found that clover (sorry, cuss word) was needed to have any pr consistency.

    Yes.
    Fan of clover here. Love seeing it in swards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Yes.
    Fan of clover here. Love seeing it in swards

    Hmmm....Dawg narrows eyes, and even squints a little...fan of clover??











    Aren't Irish farmers supposed to be heavily dependant on monocultures and chemical fert?
    Suspicious...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Hmmm....Dawg narrows eyes, and even squints a little...fan of clover??



    Aren't Irish farmers supposed to be heavily dependant on monocultures and chemical fert?
    Suspicious...

    Treating it with more respect here also, the trials are definitely promising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭alps


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Treating it with more respect here also, the trials are definitely promising.

    Go to Clon....read between the lines....check out the sward carefully....mid August would be best....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭cjpm


    Just along the west coast dawgy dawg dawg! East of the country escaping tonight anyway....

    Why didn't ya fancy it?? Heap of zero grazers round here.....

    And was surprised when I looked at the back page of the journal I think to see a couple of well known farmers using zero grazers.....


    I was at one of those fellas places during the summer. Hosted an open day and sale. Great looking cows and figures. Can't recollect seeing or hearing anything about the use of a zero grazer though??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭caseman


    mf240 wrote: »
    Who does the other 6 milkings. How much did 250 cows cost . How much rent is he paying. Do the uncles work on farm. Are they paid for their time

    The labour thing is something that bugs me. alot of fellas calling themselves one man shows not Kevin and a load of free family labour.
    Was in a yard one morning and even poor mammy was coming running with two buckets and her head nearly touching the ground


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    caseman wrote: »
    The labour thing is something that bugs me. alot of fellas calling themselves one man shows not Kevin and a load of free family labour.
    Was in a yard one morning and even poor mammy was coming running with two buckets and her head nearly touching the ground

    Very misleading but also plain bad manners insulting parents like that. I've no time for it.

    I'd estimate my wife is a half labour unit here and she doesn't put on wellies only to go to matches or EP. She took over the books as my mother tools back seat, invaluable. My post is even opened and junk in the recycle bin before I see it. My next step is to get her to keep the Dept records and then I'm free to milk and drive tractors :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Timmaay wrote:
    Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

    I'd estimate my wife is a half labour unit here and she doesn't put on wellies only to go to matches or EP. She took over the books as my mother tools back seat, invaluable. My post is even opened and junk in the recycle bin before I see it. My next step is to get her to keep the Dept records and then I'm free to milk and drive tractors

    That's what I'm trying to do, don't intend herself working like that unless she wants! She's down on the books as a labour unit even tho she doesn't even feed the dog! My COP must be skewed the other way :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    So wonder IFJ/Agriland aren't knocking on door...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    Can you explain the following quote

    “For every 1c/L your increase your concentrate costs your overall costs increase by 1.6c/L,” he said.

    I can't explain it. My best guess is he's probably going off some teagasc analysis of profit monitors where they correlate concentrate costs to overall costs. Can't see why feeding extra concentrates would add any other costs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I didn't fancy it at the time because after doing the figures it needs grass to be over 22% pr. Problem with grass at that pr% and ground conditions mucky...dm is on the floor. Expensive water.

    Not taking from anyone that's using the system now. It's just not for me, that's all.





    Btw. I'm not much of a Dawgy Dawg Dawg...I may bite! :)

    You are only against them because the discharge is a bit slow.

    No good for unloading dung / cow sh**T, goose livers, duck waste etc. into the foyer of the local co-op / bank / govt. department.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yewtree


    caseman wrote: »
    The labour thing is something that bugs me. alot of fellas calling themselves one man shows not Kevin and a load of free family labour.
    Was in a yard one morning and even poor mammy was coming running with two buckets and her head nearly touching the ground

    Spot on a lot of labour hidden on farms, thankfully my parents are still around both retirement age, mam never goes out on farm but will help out in other ways Dad is doing a lot less but is still invaluable. Probably a full labour unit when all the work they do is taken into account. Milking 130 this year simple system don't think I would manage if I was a a real one man show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    Can you explain the following quote

    “For every 1c/L your increase your concentrate costs your overall costs increase by 1.6c/L,” he said.

    That's one of those statistical anomalies that has been misinterpreted imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    alps wrote: »
    Timmaay wrote: »
    Treating it with more respect here also, the trials are definitely promising.

    Go to Clon....read between the lines....check out the sward carefully....mid August would be best....
    Dawggone wrote: »
    Yes.
    Fan of clover here. Love seeing it in swards

    Hmmm....Dawg narrows eyes, and even squints a little...fan of clover??











    Aren't Irish farmers supposed to be heavily dependant on monocultures and chemical fert?
    Suspicious...

    Clover is all fine on dandy on dry soils with lower rainfall amounts in the shoulders once your happy to feed bales on days they could be in the field in spring and autumn. Had it here for a bit in few paddocks and all I had was poached fields in spring due to low cover and and hence weeds in the summer with f all grass.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭caseman


    Very misleading but also plain bad manners insulting parents like that. I've no time for it.

    I'd estimate my wife is a half labour unit here and she doesn't put on wellies only to go to matches or EP. She took over the books as my mother tools back seat, invaluable. My post is even opened and junk in the recycle bin before I see it. My next step is to get her to keep the Dept records and then I'm free to milk and drive tractors :)

    I don't think i insulted anybody parents in that post told it as i seen it.
    If i did my apologies


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    caseman wrote: »
    I don't think i insulted anybody parents in that post told it as i seen it.
    If i did my apologies
    I dont think you did either , I think keepgrowing was saying its very bad form on the farmers involved part to have their mother still out doing their work. That day should be long gone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I dont think you did either , I think keepgrowing was saying its very bad form on the farmers involved part to have their mother still out doing their work. That day should be long gone

    Honestly Whelan they can be impossible to keep out of the yard. My mil would give my fathers mother a run for her money and she could embarrass us by making a show of us well into our teens. Bil has spent a decade slowly weaning her off hardship. He has spent a fortune modernising what was a pretty old fashioned yard when he started but there are still a couple of jobs she won't relent on so he grins and bears it. She's still doing 4-5 milkings a week min at 75. 100 plus cows. Not a sin on her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Honestly Whelan they can be impossible to keep out of the yard. My mil would give my fathers mother a run for her money and she could embarrass us by making a show of us well into our teens. Bil has spent a decade slowly weaning her off hardship. He has spent a fortune modernising what was a pretty old fashioned yard when he started but there are still a couple of jobs she won't relent on so he grins and bears it. She's still doing 4-5 milkings a week min at 75. 100 plus cows. Not a sin on her.
    Ah I know that and in most cases its what keeps them going, but there are also lads taking full advantage. Being expected to carry big buckets and do things they were able to do 20 years ago and still have the dinner on the table


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    whelan2 wrote:
    I dont think you did either , I think keepgrowing was saying its very bad form on the farmers involved part to have their mother still out doing their work. That day should be long gone


    It's still common


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    kowtow wrote: »
    You are only against them because the discharge is a bit slow.

    No good for unloading dung / cow sh**T, goose livers, duck waste etc. into the foyer of the local co-op / bank / govt. department.

    Lol.

    Looking for a good blockade atm...I've a big heap of tyres I want rid of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Testing grass here throughout the year.
    Lowest pr test this yr was 23% dmd always high 80s. Dm a difervent storey[/quote]
    Keep in mind that most of that pr in grass will be pissed away, compared to good quality meal/tmr probably lucky to get 60% efficiency if everything was perfect compared to 80+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wats the craic


    i thought i would give a little up date on strathroy progress this year . they have increased capacity to 1.3 million litres a day , which mainly comes the new evaporater they have built at a cost of 7 million or so . but all of the money comes from strathroy not the farmers. product from the new plant being sold across europe plus the rep of ireland , and they want new suppliers :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    i thought i would give a little up date on strathroy progress this year . they have increased capacity to 1.3 million litres a day , which mainly comes the new evaporater they have built at a cost of 7 million or so . but all of the money comes from strathroy not the farmers. product from the new plant being sold across europe plus the rep of ireland , and they want new suppliers :D

    Have they increased price?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    i thought i would give a little up date on strathroy progress this year . they have increased capacity to 1.3 million litres a day , which mainly comes the new evaporater they have built at a cost of 7 million or so . but all of the money comes from strathroy not the farmers. product from the new plant being sold across europe plus the rep of ireland , and they want new suppliers :D

    Will they swing off the n11 at the beehive for me :p.? Out of interest are you paid in stg or euro? The exchange rate must of made a big impact on the price this yr?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    i thought i would give a little up date on strathroy progress this year . they have increased capacity to 1.3 million litres a day , which mainly comes the new evaporater they have built at a cost of 7 million or so . but all of the money comes from strathroy not the farmers. product from the new plant being sold across europe plus the rep of ireland , and they want new suppliers :D

    I'm getting an itch.
    - any affect from Brexit
    - does exchange rate come into the equation at all ( when they're buying or selling)
    - how are prices looking with them.
    Thanks


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