Navan railway line

Del.Monte · 16-08-2016 08:44PM

MGWR wrote: »

There definitely was a plan, but they do often get "deferred" usually for political reasons.

FYP

The White Elephant that is the M3 Parkway line is Noel Dempsey's parting give to his grateful constituents.

cmore123 · 16-08-2016 08:53PM

A new platform could be built adjacent to the car park at Drogheda so that the fact that the train bypasses the main platform would be irrelevant.

Grandeeod · 16-08-2016 09:05PM

cmore123 wrote: »

A new platform could be built adjacent to the car park at Drogheda so that the fact that the train bypasses the main platform would be irrelevant.

All this was suggested over 10 years ago. The excuse then was that considering the Government were building the line over the direct route, they would not countenence spending a smaller amount on an interim solution.

Pure BS of course and we are where we are on this, DU and MN etc. etc. etc.

Banjoxed · 17-08-2016 07:59AM

Del.Monte wrote: »

FYP

The White Elephant that is the M3 Parkway line is Noel Dempsey's parting give to his grateful constituents.

I'd say some of his constituents along the M3 had more reason to be grateful than others. As an aside, are there still shadow tolls being paid by the State to the road operator? Dempsey Delivered all right.

loyatemu · 17-08-2016 11:42AM

Grandeeod wrote: »

All this was suggested over 10 years ago. The excuse then was that considering the Government were building the line over the direct route, they would not countenence spending a smaller amount on an interim solution.

here is the suggested Navan-Drogheda-Connolly service from 2007: http://www.railusers.ie/campaigns/navan/navan_drogheda.php

dowlingm · 20-08-2016 02:50PM

I would have thought getting Tara off the Northern Line would be a big win when trying to schedule 22000s and Enterprises. Would put a bit of constraint on the Clonsilla-Glasnevin capacity of course.

On the flip side, if Indaver had been allowed burn Dublin rubbish the Taras could have been heading back towards Drogheda laden

h.gricer · 03-09-2016 05:28PM

Del.Monte wrote: »

Ah Del.Monte, your rubbing salt in my wounds, I was nether privileged or in de know in them days to receive a ticket for that tour, don't mention dat raffle for tickets, I had to settle for a lineside chase in a an old battered green Datsun a good friend who took pity on me, I sat in the front seat with broken seat springs that pained my backside all the way to Kingscourt, still a gricer with suffer pain and suffering to get that all important photo.
Regards
h.gricer

Banjoxed · 03-09-2016 10:28PM

loyatemu wrote: »

here is the suggested Navan-Drogheda-Connolly service from 2007: http://www.railusers.ie/campaigns/navan/navan_drogheda.php

I hadn't looked at the rail users forum for some time, but jayzuz Jamie2k loved pi55ing on the local link bus from Ballinamore to Dromod.

Is any enhancement to rail services acceptable to our resident libertarians? Probably not. Beautiful toasted rolls all round, once they are eaten outside the bus, lads. :rolleyes:

dowlingm · 05-09-2016 04:43PM

Banjoxed wrote: »

Is any enhancement to rail services acceptable to our resident libertarians? Probably not.

there is nobody on this board, I'm willing to bet, who hasn't broken out the crayons at one time or another. The difference between the killjoys/libertarians/Beeching types as they are regularly labelled here is a certain sense of the likelihood of success, as opposed those who label other posters on this board as such , who presumably go through life with the Beach Boys soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcWjqWVZrbI

Banjoxed · 06-09-2016 03:46PM

dowlingm wrote: »

there is nobody on this board, I'm willing to bet, who hasn't broken out the crayons at one time or another. The difference between the killjoys/libertarians/Beeching types as they are regularly labelled here is a certain sense of the likelihood of success, as opposed those who label other posters on this board as such , who presumably go through life with the Beach Boys soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcWjqWVZrbI

Good point. However, I've lived long enough in Ireland to know the peculiar arteriosclerosis that affects transport choices and population densities in planning and decision making here. I'm fond of the Beach Boys but The Blades seem more appropriate here.

https://youtu.be/b-63awHsd5k

IE 222 · 11-09-2016 02:34AM

South Wexford line could be laid on the navan branch. good line speeds would be easily achieved with that track and its very straight in most parts. No reason 75mph couldn't be permitted on the line and 90mph on Northern line. 60 - 65 min trip with limited stops using ICRs.

Only 2 level crossing to upgrade and maybe some private crossings need more clearance work. 2 new stations navan east and duleek. Double the line from navan to navan east and use plantin as a passing loop for duleek if needed. New single platform at drogheda will also allow a shuttle and feeder service off peak.

Leave m3 for dart underground and look at expanding that line to Ashbourne via fairy house and ratoath instead of maynooth darts.

end of the road · 11-09-2016 03:01AM

IE 222 wrote: »

South Wexford line could be laid on the navan branch. good line speeds would be easily achieved with that track and its very straight in most parts.

the south wexford track is all bullhead rail now. the bit of cwr was taken up and replaced recently with second hand track pannels from NIR as part of it's "care and maintenence" . it will remain an "engineers siding" until it is ripped up in 2020 if not before hand.

IE 222 wrote: »

No reason 75mph couldn't be permitted on the line and 90mph on Northern line. 60 - 65 min trip with limited stops using ICRs.

i think that might be better as a 2900 job due to the short distance tbh. of course it's a mute point either way as they're is more chance of me being taoiseach then droghida navan being reopened to passengers!

dowlingm · 11-09-2016 04:39AM

Not to mention the need to keep South Wexford available as a Wicklow line landslide escape route...

IE 222 · 11-09-2016 05:19PM

I'm sure some lightly used cwr could be swapped. Wouldn't need much to upgrade the line as it's of high quality in places already.

Take from nenagh branch if they are not going to increase speeds there.

2900 is ideal with a 2600 from Cork to do off peak shuttles to drogheda but all 2900s would have to be dedicated to commuter services.

An up loop would be needed at clongriffin to put new services on.

dowlingm · 13-09-2016 08:49PM

Didn't Navan line get some fairly good track a while back? UIC54 off the Cork line when they were laying UIC60 there or something?

Grandeeod · 13-09-2016 08:57PM

Railway threads are getting so retro lately!

The PPT is coming online and now we are back to Navan via the line from Drogheda. This is like 2003 all over again.:D

Nobody gave a damn in 2003/04/05 though. Anyone got a banjo????

Banjoxed · 13-09-2016 09:00PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

Railway threads are getting so retro lately!

The PPT is coming online and now we are back to Navan via the line from Drogheda. This is like 2003 all over again.:D

Nobody gave a damn in 2003/04/05 though. Anyone got a banjo????

Does the banjo offer apply to the Drogheda line as well?

Grandeeod · 13-09-2016 09:12PM

Banjoxed wrote: »

Does the banjo offer apply to the Drogheda line as well?

At this stage I can only say....ABSOLUTELY!:D

Won't happen via Drogheda either before 2025 and by then Tara Mines could be shut anyway.

dowlingm · 13-09-2016 09:19PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

Anyone got a banjo????

Ask and you shall receive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8

Grandeeod · 13-09-2016 09:44PM

dowlingm wrote: »

Ask and you shall receive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8

Their not naked.;)

Navan railway line

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