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Munster vs Cardiff, Fri 9 Sept 7:35pm; TG4/BBCWales

  • 08-09-2016 11:01am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Munster:
    Andrew Conway; Darren Sweetnam, Dan Goggin, Rory Scannell, Ronan O'Mahony; Ian Keatley, Duncan Williams;
    James Cronin, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Dave Foley, Billy Holland - capt.; Dave O'Callaghan, Tommy O'Donnell, Jack O'Donoghue.

    Replacements: Duncan Casey, Dave Kilcoyne, Brian Scott, Donnacha Ryan, CJ Stander, Tomás O'Leary, Cian Bohane, Stephen Fitzgerald.

    Cardiff:
    15 - D Fish; 14 - A Cuthbert, 13 - C Allen, 12 - R Lee-Lo, 11 - T James; 10 - G Anscombe, 9 - T Williams;
    1 - G Jenkins (capt), 2 - K Dacey; 3 - T Filise, 4 - G Earle, 5 - M Cook, 6 - J Navidi, 7 - E Jenkins, 8 - N Williams.

    Replacements: 16 - M Rees, 17 - R Gill, 18 - S Andrews, 19 - J Turnbull, 20 - S Warburton, 21 - L Williams, 22 - S Shingler, 23 - M Morgan
    Tyler Bleyendaal was not available for selection after reporting a mild calf strain.

    Oh dear lord no.

    There is no change to the forwards bar Casey on the bench for KOB. Rory Scannell will be the backup 10 to Keatley. Conway replaces Zebo who is out for 5 weeks. Brian Scott remains ahead of John Andress on the bench. No Jean Kleyn in the 23.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭former total


    At least it's not Bleyendaal's quad anyway.

    Is Andress fit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    At least it's not Bleyendaal's quad anyway.

    Is Andress fit?

    Ah my mistake re Bleyendaal, I thought his issue was a calf one. Hopefully nothing serious then, we can't afford a long term absence.

    There was no mention of Andress in the injury update and he played in the pre-season so I assume he's available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,547 ✭✭✭✭phog


    An all Irish qualified squad - only 3 not produced by Munster but it counts for little unless we perform well and we're up against a strong Cardiff team. I was more hopeful of a win when the fixtures were announced than I am now after the teams are named.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Hopefully Cardiff just don't care. It wouldn't be the first time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,547 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Hopefully Cardiff just don't care. It wouldn't be the first time.

    This early in the season and with the team they named :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    phog wrote: »
    This early in the season and with the team they named :eek:

    They have sent good teams and not cared. I recall a Leinster game where they got hammered. I'm trying to put a positive spin here..!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    They've won 7 games away from home in the league over the past 3 seasons.

    They're atrocious but have the players to make things difficult. It's rare enough to see those players bother to break sweat in these games though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    No Kleyn involved in 23?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Buer wrote: »
    They've won 7 games away from home in the league over the past 3 seasons.

    They're atrocious but have the players to make things difficult. It's rare enough to see those players bother to break sweat in these games though.

    I don't know about that. They've actually been getting better under Danny Wilson I think. They were pretty dominant over Edinburgh last weekend and in the closing stages of last season they put in some good performances I thought.

    Their squad is getting stronger from a really really poor starting point. Their halfbacks are pretty strong and their back row is really strong. If they continue to improve I think they could be a threat to the provinces this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    No Kleyn involved in 23?

    Holland and Foley did well last week and the squad is stacked with locks. Darren O'Shea is outside the 23 also.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    I don't know about that.


    I was really just referring to their performances away from home. They're actually a hard enough side to beat in Cardiff but they're simply gutless on the road.

    They haven't won in Treviso since the 2011/12 season, for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Buer wrote: »
    I was really just referring to their performances away from home. They're actually a hard enough side to beat in Cardiff but they're simply gutless on the road.

    They haven't won in Treviso since the 2011/12 season, for example.

    They would be in Europe instead of Munster if they had won both games in Italy last season. Instead they got 1 point from a possible 10. Had they earned 8 points from 10 they would have finished ahead of Munster on points difference (after an equal number of wins for both teams).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Holland and Foley did well last week and the squad is stacked with locks. Darren O'Shea is outside the 23 also.

    I know but..
    ..I thought I was so Smart investing in him for my Fantasy Rugby side meaning I wouldn't have to waste a transfer on him bringing him into the side :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭slingerz


    I'm really nervous for Munster on this one. A win here keeps the momentum going but a loss would be deflating after a good performance last week. A win here and I could see Munster rocking up to the Aviva at the start of October unbeaten


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 259 ✭✭flogthebog


    cardiff is a strange team. lots of quality players and shocking results. that said they seemed to be turning a corner towards the end of last season and first game out in new pro12 season was a positive. so they are on the up. not saying who might win but if munster win it won't be easy


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,935 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    flogthebog wrote: »
    cardiff is a strange team. lots of quality players and shocking results. that said they seemed to be turning a corner towards the end of last season and first game out in new pro12 season was a positive. so they are on the up. not saying who might win but if munster win it won't be easy

    I have the impression that Cardiff had a great run of wins towards the end of last season. However the Pro 12 new website has no access to last seasons data - or any other season's - which is a pity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    jacothelad wrote: »
    I have the impression that Cardiff had a great run of wins towards the end of last season. However the Pro 12 new website has no access to last seasons data - or any other season's - which is a pity.

    Yeah it's a complete pain, but thankfully the Blues kept the record on their site!

    http://www.cardiffblues.com/rugby/fixtures_and_results.php?includeref=699&season=2015-2016


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Weather is brutal.
    Unlike last week, it's not just rain but wind as well. Could be a very scrapy game tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    Weather is brutal.
    Unlike last week, it's not just rain but wind as well. Could be a very scrapy game tonight.

    Will it go ahead if it's like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,547 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Weather is brutal.
    Unlike last week, it's not just rain but wind as well. Could be a very scrapy game tonight.

    Forecast is to clear so hopefully it will be dry at least.
    CZ 453 wrote: »
    Will it go ahead if it's like this.

    Current weather wouldn't prevent it going ahead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    Will it go ahead if it's like this.
    Its definitely going to go ahead. Weather nowhere near bad enough to force a postponement. Musgrave pitch is a very good one and will be in perfect condition considering its the start of the season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Looks absolutely fine in cork now. Sun out and all.

    Expecting a tough game for us here. Cardiff team and bench looks slightly stronger to ours but hopefully we can get the win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Sweetnam has made two awesome covering tackles.


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    Brilliant Brilliant defence from Sweetnam, terrific stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Two very good tackles by sweetnam so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Cardiff came to play. Lovely try. Good hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Williams and Keatley already putting us in difficulty. Keatley insisting on kicking it straight to Cardiff every time.

    Sweetnam has had to make 2 brilliant tackles.

    Cardiff 7-0


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    That was coming, bit of composure and it would be the second try not the first. Munster can absorb this and push on though - they look very solid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Sweetnam :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Wow scrappy but brilliant from Sweetnam to take on 4 guys and pop to Conway.

    They all count.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Nice quick reply. Sweetnam involved in everything.

    Conway Could have went closer to the posts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Oh Ian, lucky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Oh Ian, lucky.


    He's really looks like he's forcing it.

    Hope he relaxes soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Sweetnam is killing it. Looks great.

    Munster turning the ball over too easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Sweetnam has been absolutely immense so far. Really impressed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    This is a true Keatley masterclass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    This is a true Keatley masterclass

    He's trying hard....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Why didn't Cardiff go for points?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Thats a try for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Think Jenkins makes a gap for that try.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Lol no try for obstruction.

    Pretty soft, but we'll take it.

    Cardiff notorious for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    As soft a block as you'll see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    A very tight call, strictly speaking it was accurate......but we've all seen them ignored


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Got the rub of the green there...


  • Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Quintis


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Lol no try for obstruction.

    Pretty soft, but we'll take it.

    Cardiff notorious for it.

    Delighted for Jenkins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Balls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Defence went missing for that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    That all looked a bit too easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Great try Cardiff and deserved considering their dominance.

    Somebody in the middle messed up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    I think it's nearly time for us to forget everything we thought we knew about the Blues in the Pro 12 after their recent games


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