There's a new Saint in town

bnt · 04-09-2016 12:44PM #1

Old thread, but deserves an update, since it's now as official as it gets: Mother Teresa has been canonised as Saint Teresa of Calcutta. The BBC article mentions some of the criticisms down the page, while the Irish Times article is, as expected, more of a hagiography.

MOD - I've opened a new thread and moved across the latest posts, let's leave that zombie thread back in zombieland.

Laika123 · 04-09-2016 01:42PM

Haven't read through all the articles, but mother teresa was a fraud, embezzled money, stayed in 5 star hotels, now the hypocrites in Rome want to make her a saint, or have actually, idiots.

Arcade_Tryer · 04-09-2016 02:23PM

Laika123 wrote: »

Haven't read through all the articles, but mother teresa was a fraud, embezzled money, stayed in 5 star hotels, now the hypocrites in Rome want to make her a saint, or have actually, idiots.

Quite appropriate so that she be made a patron saint of the Catholic Church!

Galwayguy35 · 04-09-2016 02:28PM

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Quite appropriate so that she be made a patron saint of the Catholic Church!

And it just took 3 posts for the Catholic bashing to start.

RobertKK · 04-09-2016 02:29PM

Rita Ora is a better singer than I thought she was. She was singing at the concert for the canonisation of Mother Teresa, as she is from Albania too.

https://twitter.com/TeamAlbanians/status/772253052707467264

Arcade_Tryer · 04-09-2016 02:33PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

And it just took 3 posts for the Catholic bashing to start.

Logical progression from the subject matter of the thread.

Of course the Catholic Church know little about logic. Oops!

Apologies, Father.

Laika123 · 04-09-2016 02:35PM

Hell's Angel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMryNIV-WsQ

Galwayguy35 · 04-09-2016 02:37PM

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Logical progression from the subject matter of the thread.

Of course the Catholic Church know little about logic. Oops!

Apologies, Father.

Oh there's no need to apologize, you can say whatever you like and nobody will bat an eyelid.

Say the same things about any other religion and it would be a different story.

Ted111 · 04-09-2016 02:38PM

Apparently she wasn't even a mother, at all.

ToddyDoody · 04-09-2016 02:44PM

"No-one does Mother Teresa like you Father"

Laika123 · 04-09-2016 02:47PM

Was Mother Teresa not so saintly after all? Researchers spark controversy by claiming her care of the sick was 'dubious' and handling of cash 'suspicious'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287427/Was-Mother-Teresa-saintly-Researchers-spark-controversy-claiming-care-sick-dubious-handling-cash-suspicious.html

Arcade_Tryer · 04-09-2016 02:49PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Oh there's no need to apologize, you can say whatever you like and nobody will bat an eyelid.

Say the same things about any other religion and it would be a different story.

Ah come on! All religions are open to criticism and ridicule! Let's not conflate criticism of the belief (Christianty/Islam) with the people (Catholics, Muslims).

Laika123 · 04-09-2016 02:55PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Oh there's no need to apologize, you can say whatever you like and nobody will bat an eyelid.

Say the same things about any other religion and it would be a different story.

Listen Galwayguy, I'm just being honest, I'm not bashing a religion, just a corrupt money grabbing woman who is far from a saint, I was born a Catholic, I believe in God, I just don't believe in religion, and the roman church is one of the most corrupt and evil in my view.

Gbear · 04-09-2016 03:19PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Oh there's no need to apologize, you can say whatever you like and nobody will bat an eyelid.

Say the same things about any other religion and it would be a different story.

Islam is a load of barbaric ****e and the theocratic regimes that push it are orders of magnitude more disgusting than the modern Catholic church.

Catholicism is more relevant to us here because it was the dominant religion and their atrocities were perpetrated against us.
The problem of Islam is a problem for the world but it's not really a problem in Ireland.

So there's no hypocrisy. One is simply more relevant to us than the other.

And, as you will be able to tell by this post being here and me not getting carded, there's no issue, regarding Islam, in calling a spade a spade on this forum (touch wood).

I heard some waffle on the radio that there was some concern about 1 of Mother Teresa's "miracles" where they weren't sure whether a tumour had gone into remission because of her blessing or, y'know, the medicine she was taking for it.

****ing gob****es.

The Rape of Lucretia · 04-09-2016 04:09PM

Not an expert on the requirements for being a saint, but if your miracles (I have none at the moment, but who knows) are subsequently proven to be explainable by science, and so no longer be miracles, is your sainthood revoked ?

looksee · 04-09-2016 04:15PM

No because everyone is a saint anyway, its just the church recognising them. Or something.

kylith · 04-09-2016 05:01PM

"Mother" Teresa's homes for the dying were/are filthy, squalid places where needles are reused until blunt and the patients are forbidden visitors. Millions have been donated but precious little found its way toward alleviating suffering. Teresa also refused to return a donation that was shown to have come from people who were scammed out of their savings.

the dark phantom · 04-09-2016 05:04PM

You can be sure the Irish nuns taught the bitch well...

The Rape of Lucretia · 04-09-2016 05:10PM

kylith wrote: »

"Mother" Teresa's homes for the dying were/are filthy, squalid places where needles are reused until blunt and the patients are forbidden visitors. Millions have been donated but precious little found its way toward alleviating suffering. Teresa also refused to return a donation that was shown to have come from people who were scammed out of their savings.

Maybe. But she literally performed miracles.

Winterlong · 04-09-2016 05:21PM

This thread is a hell of an eye opener.

brianregan09 · 04-09-2016 05:25PM

I wonder will people in 100's of 1000s of years down the line have wars over which was better Marvel or DC ??

Because to me anyway that's what the bible quaran and all these things are ....comic books of the dark ages , people pulling off miracles and such its just some religions have used people's naivety to try and control the world through robbing people, paedophilia , celebrating suffering and taking advantage of peoples goodwill through charities and stuff

Anyone who still believes in all this rubbish needs a good hard look at themselves. I understand people need something to believe in and all that but people like Mother Teresa are not people to look up to ...Not even ****ing close

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 04-09-2016 06:46PM

brianregan09 wrote: »

I wonder will people in 100's of 1000s of years down the line have wars over which was better Marvel or DC ??

Because to me anyway that's what the bible quaran and all these things are ....comic books of the dark ages , people pulling off miracles and such its just some religions have used people's naivety to try and control the world through robbing people, paedophilia , celebrating suffering and taking advantage of peoples goodwill through charities and stuff

Anyone who still believes in all this rubbish needs a good hard look at themselves. I understand people need something to believe in and all that but people like Mother Teresa are not people to look up to ...Not even ****ing close

Grand job.

Now what about this new saint?

Personally I never had any time for her but her canonisation has no impact on me or my beliefs, so no harm no foul.

Laika123 · 04-09-2016 06:56PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Maybe. But she literally performed miracles.

Yea turning money into air.

Barry Badrinath · 04-09-2016 06:58PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Maybe. But she literally performed miracles.

Like what?

Berserker · 04-09-2016 07:13PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Not an expert on the requirements for being a saint, but if your miracles (I have none at the moment, but who knows) are subsequently proven to be explainable by science, and so no longer be miracles, is your sainthood revoked ?

In addition to this, who validates, for want of a better word, the miracles?

The Rape of Lucretia · 04-09-2016 07:21PM

She cured Monica Besra's tumour overnight, when a beam of light came from a picture of Mother Teresa, and she held a picture of MT over her tumour.

And cured Macilio Haddad Andrino of multiple brain absesses after his wife prayed to MT. She interceded and cured him overnight and he came out of his coma.

These facts are documented and readily available.

kylith · 04-09-2016 07:22PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Maybe. But she literally performed miracles.

Absolutely. The curing of one cancer patient who was receiving medical treatment anyway totally makes up for the thousands of people who died untimely deaths in agony over the years :rolleyes:

lertsnim · 04-09-2016 07:22PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

She cured Monica Besra's tumour overnight, when a beam of light came from a picture of Mother Teresa, and she held a picture of MT over her tumour.

And cured Macilio Haddad Andrino of multiple brain absesses after his wife prayed to MT. She interceded and cured him overnight and he came out of his coma.

These facts are documented and readily available.

Oh FFS. Maybe the picture should be the saint.

The Rape of Lucretia · 04-09-2016 07:23PM

Berserker wrote: »

In addition to this, who validates, for want of a better word, the miracles?

Its a very in depth and rigorous process. In MT's case, there are 113 witnesses attesting to the miracles, and evidence amounting to 35,000 pages which were then presented to the Congregation for the Causes of Saints.
So very clear cut.

Barry Badrinath · 04-09-2016 07:25PM

lertsnim wrote: »

Oh FFS. Maybe the picture should be the saint.

Ha!

FTA69 · 04-09-2016 07:27PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

She cured Monica Besra's tumour overnight, when a beam of light came from a picture of Mother Teresa, and she held a picture of MT over her tumour.

And cured Macilio Haddad Andrino of multiple brain absesses after his wife prayed to MT. She interceded and cured him overnight and he came out of his coma.

These facts are documented and readily available.

Lol at you attempting to pass off a curative magical beam of light coming out of a picture as an undeniable "fact".

There's a new Saint in town

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