Why did Gardai destroy possible burial site of Irelands longest missing child?

Going Forward wrote: »

So that's the second time they've searched in one part.

Does that mean that the actual hair site wasn't investigated at all??

No one knows what the hair was?

Correct on all points AFAIK

twill wrote: »

I think it was said somewhere on this thread that the Gardaí had got back to the site but there was nothing there, the implication being that the body had been moved in the meantime? I don't remember where on the thread it was, but I don't think any specifics were given.

it is my belief Marys body was moved several times in the initial few years until the heat died down

Going Forward wrote: »

I will.
It will be interesting to revisit Official Ireland's take on the "mystery".

Anything and everything was on the table, everything except examining or querying the explanation given by the last known person to see her alive.

That was swallowed hook, line and sinker.

How could such programmes even be made with that in the back of the producer's minds?????

The closed mentality that says that questioning that account is out of bounds?

What public service was being provided by the public service broadcaster in producing such programmes?

That that theory that she was killed by someone known to her and her remains were hidden cannot be as valid as one that says she might have walked to Belleek?

We were suckers back then.

Also it will be interesting to see the extent of the discrepancies in the family's story which is clearly evident just from those clips.

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

I rang the Ballyshannon Gardai on 4th July and again 3 days ago asking for an urgent call-back from the detective in charge of my cousins case, because I have physical (recorded) evidence -not hearsay- which I believe is very important to my cousin Marys case, so I asked for an urgent call back , I still haven't received any calls

That's actually shocking.

Or email him, then you have a written record of the reply, or else no reply at all, which is a record in itself. Then email a follow up a few days later, wash, rinse, repeat.
But if you have concrete evidence then probably best to call into the station with it, keep a copy for yourself too.

bubblypop wrote: »

If it was that important surely you would just call into the station

It shouldn't matter whether you call, visit the station or email them. It's the police's job to investigate any and every lead. The case is meant to be ongoing. If I was a detective I would chase a lead to Timbuktu and back to find a missing child and solve the case.

Laika123 wrote: »

And be told sorry det garda x isn't here, try again next week/month/year, if they were really going to investigate it with the so-called cold-case team, that was touted recently, they'd be eager to contact oranbhoy, I have zero faith in the garda concerning this case.

Maybe he didn't receive the messages though.

I had difficulty contacting a Garda once about a theft from my property. I thought he was avoiding me so I found out when he was working and met him as he was entering the station. He had the work done for me but just didn't get the messages.

Laika123 wrote: »

Maybe?, but surely they have some up to date equipment such as computers or the like and can leave a message on the pulse system or similar.

I had difficulty contacting a garda a few years ago also about the theft of my property, a car that he took for no VRT and he never handed it over to the revenue. He always got the message, was just never in any of the stations that he was transferred to and from when I called, no other garda would take a statement from me.

The point is that if you find out when he's working you just be there waiting near the door.
I don't believe their computer system is any use. They seem to be always complaining about it in the media.

Laika123 wrote: »

He was moved from Santry to Dublin Castle soon after I start making inquiries, conveniently Dublin Castle traffic corp doesn't have public access.




In this day and age they'd want to cop on if that is the case, what hope has anyone of getting to the bottom of this case if a relative of Mary can't even get a message, plus recorded evidence to the top detective investigating Mary's case.

Simple continuation of the cover-up in my opinion.

I'm sure none of them were involved in the initial inquiry so why would any new Garda want to cover up anything now? If there ever was a cover-up??

You seem to have had a bad experience with the Garda and are now taking it out on the entire force. They can't all be covering up a 40 year old crime.
I am also sure that they would love to find out the true story and put the case to bed.

mhge wrote: »

Well they may start with taking informants calls then?...

It was only one Garda he was looking for.
The message fell through the cracks somewhere i'm sure.
It shouldn't but sh1t happens everywhere.

The detective in charge off the case told me he thought I could be very important for him to liase with in our initial contacts, as I am basically neutral as gemma doesn't pull my strings (my words not his ) and I have my own opinion but it isn't concrete and i have my own mind on the matter and am young-ish and able be available , he said he had a very big case on but he would contact me the following week this was away back in May , he never contacted me I contacted him a few weeks later and he rang em, told me he was on holiday (?) but he would ring me the next week , he did so but when he rang he caught me at worse time possible and i couldn't speak to him about it much as i was in public, I rang back the next day (July the 4th) and was told he would be emailed with my number and would call me when he got it

I let it go a few weeks had my holiday etc , rang again on Tuesday was told that he might be "away" soon as he is becoming an inspector but nonetheless they would pass on an email with my contact details and ask him to urgently call me

I rang again today and the female garda said she hadn't seen him for days but she thought he might be working tonight (Friday) so she would leave him an email to call me ASAP .

That's at least 3 emails he has had to call me in the last few months, 2 this week, and he hasn't bothered his arse , It just sums up how much the gardai care about my cousins demise and whereabouts .

As i said a few days ago i was trying to put the political and Gardai corruption stuff to the side and advance in working with the Gardai to see do they really want to crack this case and bring Mary home .. I'm pessimistic now to say the least.
The information I have on my recording with (who I believe Killed Mary) might lead to nothing , it might be enough to go for an arrest at last but id love a chance at least to find out one way or another.