Burning churches - Yay or Nay?

Speedwell · 02-09-2016 09:22AM

The flying mouse wrote: »

Pubs, we should burn all the pubs, there Ruining our people with there selling of the Devils buttermilk, dam them all to hell...

That sounds like a hell of a cocktail name

ancapailldorcha · 02-09-2016 09:30AM

Mod: Thread closed as it's proposing the destruction buildings that would be close to many people's hearts.

Tombi! · 02-09-2016 05:51PM

mod: After discussion we'll reopen this. Apologies for any trouble caused by it.
But please note that while we're opening this again, do be careful of what you say.
Thanks folks.

conorhal · 02-09-2016 05:55PM

Al Qaeda and IS are fond of blowing up and burning down Churches, temples, the mosques of those that just aren't quite Muslim enough for them, would you really want to be that kind of 'liberal' that makes you indistinguishable from those loons?

...And Justice · 02-09-2016 06:00PM

Not a religious fan either, but what you're proposing is what the nut jobs in Iraq and Syria do, burning down mosques and desecrating holy grounds of people of other faiths.

The next step is murdering the people that have those beliefs to finally rid the country of the particular faiths.

Is this the next step op? Do atheists hate people that are religious?

Widdershins · 02-09-2016 06:13PM

Because arson isn't clever

Huntergonzo · 02-09-2016 06:20PM

I don't think burning churches is the way to go, but you could confiscate them and turn them into something genuinely useful such as abortion clinics and/or brothels.

opinionated3 · 02-09-2016 06:21PM

I'm catholic OP.....would you like to burn the church empty or with me in it?

Irish Guitarist · 02-09-2016 06:21PM

If you don't like churches don't go to one.

Speedwell · 02-09-2016 06:26PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

I'm catholic OP.....would you like to burn the church empty or with me in it?

I suppose that depends on whether you're actually suicidal, or merely trying to goad someone into being destructive.

The_Valeyard · 02-09-2016 06:27PM

I wonder if I started thread, should we burn down asylum centres, traveller sites, mosques it be closed pretty quick. Wonder why this was locked and opened again. Must have checked the rule book, Christianity okay to poll about burning down churches, etc. Other faiths or ethnic groups, protected species.

OP all your suggestion would do is divide Irish society.

CrabRevolution · 02-09-2016 06:29PM

Nah, burning something requires a bit of drive and initiative. Not something keyboard warriors are known for.

opinionated3 · 02-09-2016 06:31PM

Tbh i find this thread quite disturbing. I've been lucky enough to grow up and live in a parish where the bond between community and church was always pretty strong. We were/are also blessed with priests who cared a lot for us and did a lot for the area. Alas, this is after hours. ....where its seemingly acceptable to mock those of faith.

Speedwell · 02-09-2016 06:32PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Alas, this is after hours. ....where its seemingly acceptable to mock those of faith.

GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED!!!!!1!!!

opinionated3 · 02-09-2016 06:35PM

Speedwell wrote: »

GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED!!!!!1!!!

good one.

The_Valeyard · 02-09-2016 06:36PM

CrabRevolution wrote: »

Nah, burning something requires a bit of drive and initiative. Not something keyboard warriors are known for.

But they could type ao fast and angrily the keyboard could catch fire.

Jimbob1977 · 02-09-2016 06:40PM

o Burn down churches

o Destroy priceless ancient monuments in Syria and Iraq (ISIS/Taliban)

o Burn down synagogues

o Destroy the cross on Carrauntoohil with an angle grinder

o Convert Glendalough into an atheist interpretive centre, maybe?

o Use Newgrange as a pub, perhaps?

Why not just destroy history? Let's burn down libraries while we're at it.

People who destroy 'antiquity' tend to be more intolerant than the religions they despise.

dav3 · 02-09-2016 06:42PM

Nah, we leave the church burning to loyalist paramilitaries in this country.
Taking the churches and their land and redistributing the vast wealth to people who deserve it, may be a better option.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 02-09-2016 06:47PM

I would never condone the burning of any religious building, be it a church, mosque or temple. Even thinking about it gives me chills.

Speedwell · 02-09-2016 06:49PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I would never condone the burning of any religious building, be it a church, mosque or temple. Even thinking about it gives me chills.

I agree; I can't think why it would ever be necessary to dispose of any structure (sacred or secular) by burning.

...And Justice · 02-09-2016 07:16PM

Speedwell wrote: »

I agree; I can't think why it would ever be necessary to dispose of any structure (sacred or secular) by burning.

We'll it leads on to mass executions, we've historic records, first they burn, then they round up the faiths, then execute.

The_Valeyard · 02-09-2016 07:20PM

Speedwell wrote: »

I agree; I can't think why it would ever be necessary to dispose of any structure (sacred or secular) by burning.

That god awful building next to the screen cinema could go. Such awful architecture.

Speedwell · 02-09-2016 07:24PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

That god awful building next to the screen cinema could go. Such awful architecture.

Oh, tear it down, by all means. But burning? No.

Atoms for Peace · 02-09-2016 07:48PM

Speedwell wrote: »

That sounds like a hell of a cocktail name

Brandy and Baileys.

Arsemageddon · 02-09-2016 07:50PM

I did like the band Burzum, but Varg Vikernes was and still is an intolerant pr1ck who tries to rewrite history to suit his white supremacist agenda. He's a loon who believes that white people are a separate species because they are directly descended from Neanderthals despite all the genetic and archaeological evidence to the contrary.

Destroying churches, mosques etc. and historic monuments can never be justified.

...And Justice · 02-09-2016 08:42PM

Arsemageddon wrote: »

I did like the band Burzum, but Varg Vikernes was and still is an intolerant pr1ck who tries to rewrite history to suit his white supremacist agenda. He's a loon who believes that white people are a separate species because they are directly descended from Neanderthals despite all the genetic and archaeological evidence to the contrary.

Destroying churches, mosques etc. and historic monuments can never be justified.

Them cûnts are cûnts, that's the way this atheist agenda works.

Maximus Alexander · 02-09-2016 08:50PM

Ultimately, by burning, sacking, demolishing, or doing other mad things to churches, you wouldn't be punishing the Catholic church. You'd be punishing the religious people of a community. I'd be no fan of the Catholic church, or indeed the notion of organised religion in general, but I fully respect people's right to their faith and to their places of worship. The people who perpetrated and facilitated abuses over the years should be held to answer for their crimes, just as anyone else would. And anyone else who is part of a church should be left to carry on living their lives as they see fit, so long as they're doing no ham to anyone.

RobertKK · 02-09-2016 09:07PM

Burning churches like ISIS have, or like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt where they encouraged attacks on Christians, could ban churches like in Saudi Arabia...
But decent people don't want societies like the ones I mentioned.
It shows a hate towards a certain group of people, it would not be acceptable for a Catholic to go burn down a building where a humanist/atheist uses for funerals.
It is our ancestors who paid for and built these buildings, and whether some like it or not, churches are places used in a crisis whether it is an individual crisis or a more general crisis.
In the Philippines churches were used to shelter and give people a roof over their head after typhoon Haiyan.
Churches are a part of the community, we should be very worried if people choose to turn on their own communities and want to burn down a religious building or any building used by the community.

looksee · 02-09-2016 09:16PM

There have been a few references to atheists, as though atheists are agreeing with this idea.Yet if you look through the thread there have been numerous cases where people have said they have no time for religion, but would be very much against destroying churches.

Pitstop Pete · 02-09-2016 09:20PM

Well horse, this is one of the most stupid questions that I've ever heard. Stupid is as stupid does horse. "I'm angry so I'll do something really stupid.." My cows have more sense than that.
If you are angry horse, use your words and write a letter or do something constructive, not destructive.

Burning churches - Yay or Nay?

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