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mentally ill man stabs people shouting allahu akbar

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  • #182
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    A policewoman in Toulouse was stabbed by one of these nutters today.

    The woman, who has not been named, was attacked at lunchtime on Tuesday in the Rempart Saint-Etienne area.

    A man, reported to be of Algerian origin, tried to grab the officer's gun and it is understood that when he failed, he pulled out a knife, repeatedly stabbing her in the throat.

    The woman is in a serious condition and the area around the polcie station is in lockdown.

    French media are reporting a 31-year-old man has been arrested.

    It is claimed the man entered the station under the pretence of making a complaint.

    The motive behind the attack is unclear.


  • #183
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,098 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ilovemybricks wrote:
    The motive behind the attack is unclear.


    Where's the mental health angle? I read the story and it doesn't mention mental health

    Are you trying to stigmatise people with mental health problems?


  • #184
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    Oh, I don't really swallow the mental health angle at all at all.


  • #185
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,098 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ilovemybricks wrote:
    Oh, I don't really swallow the mental health angle at all at all.

    How do you mean?


  • #186
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    How do you mean?

    The problem is Islam. What do all these attackers have in common?


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  • #187
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,098 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ilovemybricks wrote:
    The problem is Islam. What do all these attackers have in common?

    Do you think that a terrorist can't have mental health issues?


  • #188
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Do you think that a terrorist can't have mental health issues?

    Not all of them. But they all had the same ideology.


  • #189
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,098 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ilovemybricks wrote:
    The problem is Islam. What do all these attackers have in common?

    Most are attacks which are attributable to Islamic terrorists.

    On this thread the commonality is that those who don't buy the mental health angle, assume that everyone else is attributing the attacks solely to mental health.

    What do you think?


  • #190
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,098 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ilovemybricks wrote:
    Not all of them. But they all had the same ideology.

    What's do you not buy 'at all at all' about mental health?


  • #191
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Most are attacks which are attributable to Islamic terrorists.

    On this thread the commonality is that those who don't buy the mental health angle, assume that everyone else is attributing the attacks solely to mental health.

    What do you think?

    All of the attacks are carried out by Islamic terrorists. The mental health angle is a deflection away from this.


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  • #192
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    What's do you not buy 'at all at all' about mental health?

    It's an attempt to deflect away from the real problem and instead throws genuinely mentally ill people under the bus. It's disgusting.


  • #193
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,098 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ilovemybricks wrote:
    All of the attacks are carried out by Islamic terrorists. The mental health angle is a deflection away from this.
    Ilovemybricks wrote:
    It's an attempt to deflect away from the real problem and instead throws genuinely mentally ill people under the bus. It's disgusting.
    Nobody has said the latest case 2 cases gave a mental health angle. The Australian incident was a classic case. A poster gave a link to the incident and said it was a disgrace that it's being blamed on mental health - the link didn't mention mental health.

    The poster then said they were certain it was just Islamic terrorism but it would definitely be blamed on mental health.

    The case was later found to be a love rival incident. The only person who said it was a mental health issue was the poster who thought that it was a disgrace to blame the case on mental health.

    See the point?


  • #194
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Ilovemybricks wrote: »
    It's an attempt to deflect away from the real problem and instead throws genuinely mentally ill people under the bus. It's disgusting.

    Do you group all mentally ill people together? Did you know there are multiple types of mental illness and multiple degrees of severity of each illness? I referred to a case in Dublin a few years back where a man killed another man because he thought he was Satan. Do you blame his religion or do you think he belongs in a mental health facility?


  • #195
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    No. I'm grouping all these terrorists together. They have one thing in common. Their ideology. Mental illness is not the main issue. Islam is.


  • #196
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Ilovemybricks wrote: »
    No. I'm grouping all these terrorists together. They have one thing in common. Their ideology. Mental illness is not the main issue. Islam is.

    And the murder I referred to in Dublin? Do you blame Christianity for that or mental illness?


  • #197
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    And the murder I referred to in Dublin? Do you blame Christianity for that or mental illness?

    When Christians are going around Europe killing non Christians whilst screaming Jesus is the greatest then you may have a point. But now you're just attempting to deflect.


  • #198
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,098 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ilovemybricks wrote:
    No. I'm grouping all these terrorists together. They have one thing in common. Their ideology. Mental illness is not the main issue. Islam is.

    They're all religiously motivated - except
    Ones that aren't. And none are to do with mental health - except the ones that are.

    I don't think anyone is using mental health as a distraction. You appear to have been thoroughly distracted by it however.

    If you are determining the cause of a violent attack a history of mental health with a violent component muddies the water do its too difficult to determine the cause.

    A betting man might say it's religiously motivated but a professional can't say that because they can't know with enough certainty. Mental health breakdowns can cause people to behave irrationally. That can mean causing harm to others or themselves or both.

    Life is more complicated than 'if muslim then terrorist'


  • #199
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Ilovemybricks wrote: »
    When Christians are going around Europe killing non Christians whilst screaming Jesus is the greatest then you may have a point. But now you're just attempting to deflect.

    Your post is a deflection. I asked a simple question to see if your principles and theories apply to all religions or just Islam. Seems in your mind, muslims can't have mental health issues. Doesn't matter what doctors or family say, if you're muslim and violent you're a terrorist. ilovemybricks has spoken.


  • #200
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Your post is a deflection. I asked a simple question to see if your principles and theories apply to all religions or just Islam. Seems in your mind, muslims can't have mental health issues. Doesn't matter what doctors or family say, if you're muslim and violent you're a terrorist. ilovemybricks has spoken.

    I don't know what Christian murder you're talking about or why you're bringing it up on a thread about Muslims screaming Allahu Akbar when attacking non Muslims throughout Europe.

    Did some Christian attack a non Christians whilst screaming Jesus is the greatest? If they did, then yes, I would call them a Christian terrorist. If not, then I fail to see your point.


  • #201
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Ilovemybricks wrote: »
    I don't know what Christian murder you're talking about or why you're bringing it up on a thread about Muslims screaming Allahu Akbar when attacking non Muslims throughout Europe.

    Did some Christian attack a non Christians whilst screaming Jesus is the greatest? If they did, then yes, I would call them a Christian terrorist. If not, then I fail to see your point.

    Here is a link to the incident. The murderer stabbed the victim 143 times because he believed he was the devil. The victim was not known to the killer, he was a random target. So would you class him as a terrorist as his victim was random and it was religiously motivated?


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  • #202
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    Jaysus you're digging up murders that happened nine years ago to try and deflect from the topic at hand. It's more desperate you apologists are getting.


  • #203
    dav3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Ilovemybricks wrote: »
    Jaysus you're digging up murders that happened nine years ago to try and deflect from the topic at hand. It's more desperate you apologists are getting.

    Of course, anyone not frothing at the mouth looking to have people from certain parts of the world deported or refused entry are 'apologists'.

    Anyone who doesn't get hysterical over a stabbing when it can be pinned on a muslim, ignoring the other thousand stabbings that day, is also an 'apologist'.

    I guess 99.99% of Ireland's population are apologists.

    Good to have you back. We should start taking bets on what your next re-reg name will be.


  • #204
    Little CuChulainn
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    Ilovemybricks wrote: »
    Jaysus you're digging up murders that happened nine years ago to try and deflect from the topic at hand. It's more desperate you apologists are getting.

    Again, what you just posted is a deflection. It's called that because you tried to deflect my question and not answer it. The reason you won't answer it is because you know that doing so will reveal you as a hypocrite. I only brought up that particular case because i saw the crime scene and it sticks in my mind. I'm sure I can find a more recent example if it would help you face your hypocrisy/racism.


  • #205
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Again, what you just posted is a deflection. It's called that because you tried to deflect my question and not answer it. The reason you won't answer it is because you know that doing so will reveal you as a hypocrite. I only brought up that particular case because i saw the crime scene and it sticks in my mind. I'm sure I can find a more recent example if it would help you face your hypocrisy/racism.

    You're not comparing like with like. Find me a case where a Christian attacks a non Christian in Europe whilst screaming Jesus is great. Otherwise, your point is moot.

    A murder from nine years ago has nothing to do with the recent Islamic terrorist attacks. Nothing what so ever.


  • #206
    El_Duderino 09
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    Ilovemybricks wrote:
    Jaysus you're digging up murders that happened nine years ago to try and deflect from the topic at hand. It's more desperate you apologists are getting.

    Off the top of your head, how many recent cases have had a credible mental illness angle?


  • #207
    SEPT 23 1989
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  • #208
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Off the top of your head, how many recent cases have had a credible mental illness angle?

    Dunno. How many were carried out by Islamic extremists?


  • #209
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,098 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ilovemybricks wrote:
    Dunno. How many were carried out by Islamic extremists?

    That's a very vague answer. Do you think the consensus is that all terrorist cases are attributed to mental health?

    What do you mean?


  • #210
    Ilovemybricks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Ilovemybricks


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    That's a very vague answer. Do you think the consensus is that all terrorist cases are attributed to mental health?

    What do you mean?

    What I do know, is that they all had the same ideology in common. Islam.


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  • #211
    getzls
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    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Ilovemybricks wrote: »
    I don't know what Christian murder you're talking about or why you're bringing it up on a thread about Muslims screaming Allahu Akbar when attacking non Muslims throughout Europe.

    Did some Christian attack a non Christians whilst screaming Jesus is the greatest? If they did, then yes, I would call them a Christian terrorist. If not, then I fail to see your point.

    Here is a link to the incident. The murderer stabbed the victim 143 times because he believed he was the devil. The victim was not known to the killer, he was a random target. So would you class him as a terrorist as his victim was random and it was religiously motivated?
    The Court decided he was not guilty of murder.
    Let's see if recent Islamic attacks are judged innocent or guilty


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