mentally ill man stabs people shouting allahu akbar

Smondie

Jewish rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by 'Muslim attacker who shouted "Allahu Akbar"'

The attacker, who has been arrested, shouted 'Allahu Akbar' - God is great - as he stabbed the 55-year-old man, Le Journal du Dimanche reported.

The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues.


Officers have ruled out a terror motive for the attack and believe the suspect has suffered serious mental health issues.

Strasbourg is in the north east of France, near the German border, and is a seat of the European Parliament.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html#article-3748782

Europe seems to have major problems with mentally ill people stabbing people at the moment.


When are the mental health crowd going to step up and suggest solutions?

Timberrrrrrrr

Smondie wrote: »

Jewish rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by 'Muslim attacker who shouted "Allahu Akbar"'

The attacker, who has been arrested, shouted 'Allahu Akbar' - God is great - as he stabbed the 55-year-old man, Le Journal du Dimanche reported.

The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues.


Officers have ruled out a terror motive for the attack and believe the suspect has suffered serious mental health issues.

Strasbourg is in the north east of France, near the German border, and is a seat of the European Parliament.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html#article-3748782

Europe seems to have major problems with mentally ill people stabbing people at the moment.


When are the mental health crowd going to step up and suggest solutions

Such as?

skywanderer

The only people mentally ill here are the politically correct apologists who will label you as anything to divert attention away from the real issue.

Smondie

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Such as?

I don't know.

But if he had known mental health issues, at some stage he was assessed by a professional who should have recognised he was a danger to society and taken action to commit him.

A lot of the current preprators of these stabbings fit a certain profile.

Widdershins

A couple of friends went to a huge conference which was supposed to discuss, among other things, Islamic extremism. They don't seem to have really gotten anywhere though.
To their credit, several Muslims I know are at least talking about the issue instead of constantly denying any connection, as some non muslims do.
These mental illness headlines remind me of the approach the British government took to minimise public panic in WW2, by calling rocket attacks gas main explosions, for a while.

Walter H Price

Funny that , i've battled mental Illness for years , never felt the need to go and murder a few Jews or Infadels or blow up an abortion clinic ... Common thread with thees attacks isn't mental illness its religion , all religion's are poison but Islam is cyanide.

How anyone believes some medieval paedophile warlord wrote a book of peace is beyond me.

alchemist33

Smondie wrote: »

I don't know.

But if he had known mental health issues, at some stage he was assessed by a professional who should have recognised he was a danger to society and taken action to commit him.

A lot of the current preprators of these stabbings fit a certain profile.

With your knowledge of how to exactly predict human behaviour, you should contact your local mental health services and offer your help. They'll really appreciate it

Seth Brundle

Walter H Price wrote: »

How anyone believes some medieval paedophile warlord wrote a book of peace is beyond me.

Kill the infidel!

marcbrophy

Walter H Price wrote: »

How anyone believes some medieval paedophile warlord wrote a book of peace is beyond me.

Brilliant stuff Walt

Walter H Price

marcbrophy wrote: »

Brilliant stuff Walt

Calls it as i sees it :P

ScumLord

Walter H Price wrote: »

Funny that , i've battled mental Illness for years , never felt the need to go and murder a few Jews or Infadels or blow up an abortion clinic ... Common thread with thees attacks isn't mental illness its religion , all religion's are poison but Islam is cyanide.

How anyone believes some medieval paedophile warlord wrote a book of peace is beyond me.

Funnily enough not all mental issues have the same effects. Unless you had the same mental illness as this guy.

Mental illness is an extremely broad term.

People with mental illnesses like this guy has could have just as easily been turned into a conspiracy theorist that things everyone else must die because we're lizard people.

Timberrrrrrrr

Smondie wrote: »

I don't know.

But if he had known mental health issues, at some stage he was assessed by a professional who should have recognised he was a danger to society and taken action to commit him.

A lot of the current preprators of these stabbings fit a certain profile.

I have mental health issues

I have been assessed by a professional

Last thing I stabbed was a chicken fillet to ensure it was cooked right through.

Where does it say he showed violent tendencies before? How would the "mental health crowd" know he was going to do something like this?

Smondie

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I have mental health issues

I have been assessed by a professional

Last thing I stabbed was a chicken fillet to ensure it was cooked right through.

Where does it say he showed violent tendencies before? How would the "mental health crowd" know he was going to do something like this?

The suspect, said to be mentally ill, is believed to be known to police in relation to another attack on a Jewish victim in 2010.

Mr Samama said the man had recently been held in a psychiatric hospital and that Mr Levy’s family were demanding to know why he was released.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/strasbourg-rabbi-jewish-stabbing-france-latest-attacker-knife-allahu-akbar-terrorism-a7198991.html

Walter H Price

ScumLord wrote: »

Funnily enough not all mental issues have the same effects. Unless you had the same mental illness as this guy.

Mental illness is an extremely broad term.

People with mental illnesses like this guy has could have just as easily been turned into a conspiracy theorist that things everyone else must die because we're lizard people.

But odd just like all the others he wasnt was he , he was brainwashed by religion , a relgion that champions martrys and promises 72 virgins in the "afterlife" if you take out a few infadels on the way out.

How is this crap allowed to be spewed in 2016 , you don't have to have a mental illness to be brain washed and that's what thees young men are. For the most part they are from underprivileged dysfunctional religiously strict homes or cultures where a book of hate , discrimination inequality and war is drilled into from the time their kids.

so by the time they shout "Allah Akbar" at 19 or 20 or whatever while blowing up a bunch of people , or shooting some kids or mowing down family's with a truck they are totally convinced they are doing gods work and will be rewarded in heaven , that's not mental illness that's conditioning and sticking our head in the sand and saying they were "mental" wont fix the situation

where those parents who willingly gave their daughters to the Magdalene nuns mentally ill too, or were they brainwashed , how about the born agains bombing abortion clinics. These young Muslims are not born sick they are made sick by a sick religion

end of the road

skywanderer wrote: »

The only people mentally ill here are the politically correct apologists who will label you as anything to divert attention away from the real issue.

so basically, people who are of your imagination, or, people who don't simply take whatever you spout as fact without checking it out?

Smondie wrote: »

I don't know.

But if he had known mental health issues, at some stage he was assessed by a professional who should have recognised he was a danger to society and taken action to commit him.

A lot of the current preprators of these stabbings fit a certain profile.

what profile.

Oh fun.

Here we go again.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

The key word here is "Muslim" not "mental health"...

Chromosphere

Taking the stigma off a fanatical group within a particular religion and placing it onto the mentally ill is very unfair.

You could describe *all* terrorists as mentally ill as it's fairly abnormal to go out and attack people at random, but the motivations and brainwashing behind it would imply they're possibly more brain-washed and fanatical than mentally ill.

Timberrrrrrrr

Smondie wrote: »

The suspect, said to be mentally ill, is believed to be known to police in relation to another attack on a Jewish victim in 2010.

Mr Samama said the man had recently been held in a psychiatric hospital and that Mr Levy’s family were demanding to know why he was released.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/strasbourg-rabbi-jewish-stabbing-france-latest-attacker-knife-allahu-akbar-terrorism-a7198991.html

And that info was not in the op so how was anyone to know he had done something before?

Grayson

Walter H Price wrote: »

Funny that , i've battled mental Illness for years , never felt the need to go and murder a few Jews or Infadels or blow up an abortion clinic ... Common thread with thees attacks isn't mental illness its religion , all religion's are poison but Islam is cyanide.

How anyone believes some medieval paedophile warlord wrote a book of peace is beyond me.

It's kinda handy that everyone's mental illness is exactly like yours.

Grayson

Grayson wrote: »

It's kinda handy that everyone's mental illness is exactly like yours.

Shuush. There's no point in trying to disagree or offer another opinion. You'll be labeled as an apologist. Back away now. It's easier.

Walter H Price

Grayson wrote: »

It's kinda handy that everyone's mental illness is exactly like yours.

Except their not mentally ill their brainwashed there's a distinct diffrence and its beyond offensive to people with genuine mental healt issues that its ok to just say they are all mentally ill but mention the other common factor i.e their all brainwashed by an oppressive repressive totalitarian religion that glorify's martyrdom and dying for god and your just a narrow minded racist bigott.

The apologists are as big a threat as the hate preachers Hitler may have stated WW2 but Nevill Chamberlain allowed him remember that.

irishgrover

so basically what you are saying is the ....
Christians who murder people because they suffer from mental illness are mentally ill people who murder people
Muslims who murder people because they suffer from mental illness are terrorists who clearly provide further proof that all Muslims are terrorists and the anyone who disagrees is a liberal, left wing apologist....

There really are too many arseholes in the world...

ScumLord

Chromosphere wrote: »

Taking the stigma off a fanatical group within a particular religion and placing it onto the mentally ill is very unfair.

You could describe *all* terrorists as mentally ill as it's fairly abnormal to go out and attack people at random, but the motivations and brainwashing behind it would imply they're possibly more brain-washed and fanatical than mentally ill.

I'm no fan of religion, but this is a big stretch. You're all making huge assumptions about this man based on a few sentences.

Maybe he has been brainwashed, but it seems just as likely he's got a mental illnesses that makes him obsessive and violent. They pick up on things that confirm the notions in their own head. Not so long ago in America there was a spate of mentally ill people attacking others as if they were zombies, or them thinking they were zombies themselves. Should we hold the walking dead responsible for those attacks? Unless you can prove this person has anything but a passing understanding of Islam, has a mental illness that doesn't include paranoid schizophrenia, or another serious mental illness that would trump any religious teachings they received your in no position to pass any kind of judgement.

Yeah, religious dogma can really mess with some peoples heads, but the majority of people can practice religion and not go out killing people, even the vast majority of Muslims just live normal lives and never consider killing someone for any religious reasons.

Walter H Price

irishgrover wrote: »

so basically what you are saying is the ....
Christians who murder people because they suffer from mental illness are mentally ill people who murder people
Muslims who murder people because they suffer from mental illness are terrorists who clearly provide further proof that all Muslims are terrorists and the anyone who disagrees is a liberal, left wing apologist....

There really are too many arseholes in the world...

NO what im saying is the catholics who coverd up abuse , gave their kids to magdalen laundries , blow up abortion clinics etc are no better then the muslims who commit terrorist attacks, stone rape victims , commit honor killings etc.

Neither are mentaly ill both are brainwashed , the diffrence is ISLAM is a book of war it glorifys death , 72 virgins in heaven if you martyr yourself in Jihad against infadels and kaffirs ... keep spouting that **** at desperate young men and you will condition them to commit attrocious acts but thats not mental illness , thats the toxic affect of religion.

Just like you keep telling poor uneducated irish people that girls who get pregnant are going to hell and shame the family they will hand over their daughters to torture and slavery willingly.

Im not Anti muslim , i'm an athiest open your eyes thess people are not mentaly ill they are brainweashed and conditioned there is a root cause in this case its ISLAM

Walter H Price

Walter H Price wrote: »

NO what im saying is the catholics who coverd up abuse , gave their kids to magdalen laundries , blow up abortion clinics etc are no better then the muslims who commit terrorist attacks, stone rape victims , commit honor killings etc.

Neither are mentaly ill both are brainwashed , the diffrence is ISLAM is a book of war it glorifys death , 72 virgins in heaven if you martyr yourself in Jihad against infadels and kaffirs ... keep spouting that **** at desperate young men and you will condition them to commit attrocious acts but thats not mental illness , thats the toxic affect of religion.

Just like you keep telling poor uneducated irish people that girls who get pregnant are going to hell and shame the family they will hand over their daughters to torture and slavery willingly.

Im not Anti muslim , i'm an athiest open your eyes thess people are not mentaly ill they are brainweashed and conditioned there is a root cause in this case its ISLAM

Have you ever read the Bible? It's kind of, er, messed up. Saying that a man who sleeps with another man should be stoned to death. And lots of other stuff.

I love how you preach hate against the Muslim religion and then finish up by saying, "I'm not Anti Muslim".

Is that the new, "I'm not racist, but..."?

Grayson

Walter H Price wrote: »

Except their not mentally ill their brainwashed there's a distinct diffrence and its beyond offensive to people with genuine mental healt issues that its ok to just say they are all mentally ill but mention the other common factor i.e their all brainwashed by an oppressive repressive totalitarian religion that glorify's martyrdom and dying for god and your just a narrow minded racist bigott.

The apologists are as big a threat as the hate preachers Hitler may have stated WW2 but Nevill Chamberlain allowed him remember that.

It's great to know that a muslim cannot be mentally ill.

Widdershins

Sounds like he/she is anti religionous brainwashing..but back away now Walter 'cause your words are already being twisted and the racism slur isn't far behind..

A Little Pony

When people say he is mentally ill, they really mean he is a devout Muslim.

ScumLord

Walter H Price wrote: »

Neither are mentaly ill both are brainwashed , the diffrence is ISLAM is a book of war it glorifys death , 72 virgins in heaven if you martyr yourself in Jihad against infadels and kaffirs ... keep spouting that **** at desperate young men and you will condition them to commit attrocious acts but thats not mental illness , thats the toxic affect of religion.

The romans would have said the same thing about Christians, a loads of crackpots that would rather get eaten by lions than just respect that the empire has lots of religions. An extremely intolerant bunch of fundamentalists that idolise a brutal crucifixion and are actively trying to ape his martyrdom.

Turtyturd

It's a trap!!

Walter H Price

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you ever read the Bible? It's kind of, er, messed up. Saying that a man who sleeps with another man should be stoned to death. And lots of other stuff.

I love how you preach hate against the Muslim religion and then finish up by saying, "I'm not Anti Muslim".

Is that the new, "I'm not racist, but..."?

Seriously are you actually for real i have just said i hate all relgion , the churchs view on homosexuality , contraception etc is backwards and abhorent and their covering up of sexual abuse of children is disgusting.

Where did i say i wa not anti muslim ? i have a major issue with people who follow islam just as i have a major issue with people who follow catholocicm or scientology. If you can subsribe to a group that infict misery on women children animals homosexuals prisoners wtc then yeh ive no time for you.

The only diffrence between the Quoran and the bilble is that the quoran drectly and expressly glorifys war in the name of God against non belivers and glorifys those who martyr themselves for the cause.

But just so were crystal clear here i hate Islam , I hate catholocism i hate any organisiation that seek to explouit peoples vulnerabililitys and brainwash them to go agianst human nature in the hope that there is something better then the life the have on earth.

Walter H Price

Walter H Price wrote: »

Where did i say i wa not anti muslim ?

Walter H Price wrote: »

Im not Anti muslim , i'm an athiest open your eyes thess people are not mentaly ill they are brainweashed and conditioned there is a root cause in this case its ISLAM

Voila

dav3

How long can you keep this up lads? Are you really going to create a new thread every time there's a stabbing in Europe, or is it only when you can push an agenda?

As you read this someone in Europe is being stabbed, perhaps by someone who is mentally ill, perhaps not.


It looks like it's time to play idiot bingo again.

PC Brigade
SJW
Angela Merkel
Generation Snowflake
Loony Left
Cultural Enrichment
Anyone quoting from the daily mail or breitbart.

Let's see how it plays out.

Walter H Price

Deleted User wrote: »

Voila

IM Not specificly anti muslim i am Anti all religion , if that's not clear at this stage there's nothing more i can do for you

ScumLord

Walter H Price wrote: »

But just so were crystal clear here i hate Islam , I hate catholocism i hate any organisiation that seek to explouit peoples vulnerabililitys and brainwash them to go agianst human nature in the hope that there is something better then the life the have on earth.

So you admit your opinion is heavily influenced by your hatred? It seems like your hatred has taken over from your rationality and ability to be objective. In reality you're still allowing religion to control your emotions and thought process with this level of hatred.

Walter H Price

Walter H Price wrote: »

IM Not specificly anti muslim i am Anti all religion , if that's not clear at this stage there's nothing more i can do for you

Which religion did you say you hate again?

ScumLord wrote: »

So you admit your opinion is heavily influenced by your hatred? It seems like your hatred has taken over from your rationality and ability to be objective. In reality you're still allowing religion to control your emotions and thought process with this level of hatred.

It certainly is affecting their memory.

A Little Pony

ScumLord wrote: »

Walter H Price wrote: »

But just so were crystal clear here i hate Islam , I hate catholocism i hate any organisiation that seek to explouit peoples vulnerabililitys and brainwash them to go agianst human nature in the hope that there is something better then the life the have on earth.

So you admit your opinion is heavily influenced by your hatred? It seems like your hatred has taken over from your rationality and ability to be objective. In reality you're still allowing religion to control your emotions and thought process with this level of hatred.

Why is it hatred if people don't agree with Islam? A 7th century ideology designed to control people. Islamophobic is probably one of the most stupid words of the 21st century.

A Little Pony

A Little Pony wrote: »

Why is it hatred if people don't agree with Islam? A 7th century ideology designed to control people. Islamophobic is probably one of the most stupid words of the 21st century.

It is hatred when they say multiple times, in very colourful fashions, that they hate it.

Widdershins

Shutting discussion down must be a hobby for some people.

Walter H Price

ScumLord wrote: »

So you admit your opinion is heavily influenced by your hatred? It seems like your hatred has taken over from your rationality and ability to be objective. In reality you're still allowing religion to control your emotions and thought process with this level of hatred.

So religions do not brainwash people at all ? you know what fcuk this im out

To be honest its pointless arguing this with people like you i already know where this will go , eventually i will be called uneducated which i'm not (I've an Msc) , bigoted which again i'm not ( campaigned for marriage equality and repeal the 8th despite being strait and a bloke ) and Racist which i absolutely am not.

so i'm gunna check out now and let you all just trot out the he was mentally ill and had nothing to do with rligion line again , but its getting old seriously old at this stage. ask yourself why governments are calling on muslim leaders to do more in their community's instead of calling on mental health charitys , groups and providers to do more to prevent this kinda Sh1t...... seems an odd approch to solving a problem that has not root in religious indoctrination

ScumLord

A Little Pony wrote: »

Why is it hatred if people don't agree with Islam? A 7th century ideology designed to control people. Islamophobic is probably one of the most stupid words of the 21st century.

He expressly states it's hatred. There's a difference between disagreement, I disagree with Islam, it's based on a religion that plagiarized the myths of other cultures, it can't be true. But hatred clouds judgement, it's creates bias.

Widdershins

Widdershins wrote: »

Shutting discussion down must be a hobby for some people.

When did anyone try to shut down the discussion? Instead offering a different opinion. Otherwise it'd go from an open discussion to a circle jerk.

A Little Pony

ScumLord wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

Why is it hatred if people don't agree with Islam? A 7th century ideology designed to control people. Islamophobic is probably one of the most stupid words of the 21st century.

He expressly states it's hatred. There's a difference between disagreement, I disagree with Islam, it's based on a religion that plagiarized the myths of other cultures, it can't be true. But hatred clouds judgement, it's creates bias.

Do you hate Nazism? If you do, you are a hypocrite.

Widdershins

Deleted User wrote: »

When did anyone try to shut down the discussion? Instead offering a different opinion. Otherwise it'd go from an open discussion to a circle jerk.[/QUOTE

Oh, is that what it was?
Pft..tedious business.

Call Me Jimmy

ScumLord wrote: »

He expressly states it's hatred. There's a difference between disagreement, I disagree with Islam, it's based on a religion that plagiarized the myths of other cultures, it can't be true. But hatred clouds judgement, it's creates bias.

Thank you yoda

El_Duderino 09

Smondie wrote:

When are the mental health crowd going to step up and suggest solutions?

Why would it be either mental health or terrorism?

If I was running recruiting agency for terrorists and suicide attackers, I would be looking for people with mental health problems and learning difficulties. I would stay away from the well adjusted, well balanced people because they would be much harder to convince.

I'm glad this has begun to acknowledge mental health as a factor in terrorism. I hope it doesn't turn into a stick to beat people with mental health or those who work to help those with mental health problems.

K-9

skywanderer wrote: »

The only people mentally ill here are the politically correct apologists who will label you as anything to divert attention away from the real issue.

Or those who label others or give knee jerk, unthinking responses.

If the guy has a history of serious mental illness and this is a symtom of it, fair enough.

I'd be wary of authorities maybe pushing this narrative to calm fears. Racists and sectarianism will always exist and is a mental illness as well so...

Widdershins

Widdershins wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

When did anyone try to shut down the discussion? Instead offering a different opinion. Otherwise it'd go from an open discussion to a circle jerk.[/QUOTE

Oh, is that what it was?
Pft..tedious business.

I find it ironic that you say we're shutting down discussions as you singlehandely do it yourself.

But I guess we must be in the wrong, because we're not jumping on the muslim hating circle jerk that is happening?

K-9

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I have mental health issues

I have been assessed by a professional

Last thing I stabbed was a chicken fillet to ensure it was cooked right through.

Where does it say he showed violent tendencies before? How would the "mental health crowd" know he was going to do something like this?

Ah Jaysus, does that really need explaining?

There are some very serious mental illnesses, I assume you didn't need locked up in a secure psychiatric unit for example. You don't have to answer that question btw, it's an example.

Saipanne

Yes. "Mentally ill".