You've heard of the Red Pill, but has anyone here taken the Iron pill?

maregal · 30-08-2016 07:18PM #1

Swallowing the Red Pill means accepting the harsh "politically incorrect" realities of the world we live in. For example, the differing reactions to when a man rapes a woman (lock him up! castrate him!) compared to when a woman rapes a man (Niiiiice). Or how women expect equal pay to men but for doing less work. This is most pronounced in the case of the US military where women have much lower barriers to promotion for the sake of gender quotas. Or how about the nightclub scene which is stacked greatly in favour of women (free entry, beta males will buy you drinks, men must initiate contact giving you the power to pick and choose, even the ugliest, fattest girl can get laid).

Swallowing the Iron Pill acknowledges these truths but then rejects women as a response. This does not mean you're gay, it means you no longer allow your life to revolve around women or getting laid. An Iron Pill male will not allow himself to be subject to the unfair rules of a society that values him less than females. Rejecting women frees up your time and money to focus on intellectual pursuits and on becoming the best version of yourself. Work out everyday and lift weights to sculpt your body to perfection. Read books on philosophy, politics or history. Play video games if that's your thing without a nagging female telling you how you're a loser for doing so. Even Einstein got rid of his wife before coming up with his famous theory of relativity. There is no limit to what man can do if he stops wasting his precious time on Earth trying to woo females who use sex as currency.

maregal · 30-08-2016 07:47PM

That is a very gynocentric worldview. What happens when you enter a relationship with a female, get married, she gets bored after a few years, asks for a divorce, takes half of your stuff, keeps the house and your children? Instead of wasting time on folly such as "learning game" perhaps you could go to the gym, learn a new language or focus on getting that promotion at work. Work to benefit yourself. It is hard at first but the taste of power is nice when you first reject a women. They can't understand why you don't want them and get frustrated.

30-08-2016 07:50PM

'You can't reject me if I reject you first', eh?

Bad women! Marrying the nice guys to take all their stuff!

ancapailldorcha · 30-08-2016 08:15PM

Post by rereg troll deleted.

Avatar MIA · 30-08-2016 08:36PM

The greatest support to me in my life has been my wife. So, you can keep your iron pill.

maregal · 30-08-2016 08:36PM

But why is the onus on men to learn game? Why don't women learn game to attract men? The entire dating scene is fixed against males so reject it and focus on improving yourself physically, intellectually and career-wise. You'll be much happier, confident and successful, which ironically will make you more attractive to females. But do not fall into a parasitic relationship where sex is withheld as currency. One day she'll get pissed off that you wouldn't buy her that 500 euro pair of shoes and she'll accuse you of rape and take destroy all your hard work. A false accusation is all it takes to destroy a man as we've seen many times in the past. Why give women this power over you.

Edit: it's beginning to feel like Stalinist Russia around here with all the removed posts. Kind of ruins the flow of discussion.

eviltwin · 30-08-2016 08:37PM

maregal wrote: »

Swallowing the Red Pill means accepting the harsh "politically incorrect" realities of the world we live in. For example, the differing reactions to when a man rapes a woman (lock him up! castrate him!) compared to when a woman rapes a man (Niiiiice)

I can't think of a single person who has ever described the rape of a man as 'nice'

ancapailldorcha · 30-08-2016 08:38PM

This whole Iron Pill thing sounds like more Yank nonsense the likes of which we really, really, really don't need to be importing.

Avatar MIA · 30-08-2016 08:40PM

eviltwin wrote: »

I can't think of a single person who has ever described the rape of a man as 'nice'

He probably means statutory rape. Female teacher, male student. Most of what he wrote is tosh though.

eviltwin · 30-08-2016 08:40PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

This whole Iron Pill thing sounds like more Yank nonsense the likes of which we really, really, really don't need to be importing.

Tbh the more misogynist assholes that remove themselves from the dating pool the better imo

Insect Overlord · 30-08-2016 08:42PM

This is genuinely one of the stupidest threads I've ever read.

Did anyone else think the second pill in the title was for people with an iron deficiency?

maregal · 30-08-2016 08:43PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Tbh the more misogynist assholes that remove themselves from the dating pool the better imo

No need to begin name-calling. I refuse to respond in kind.

The Iron pill is not about hating women. It just means the refusal to allow your life to revolve around them and their needs. Are Buddhist monks in Nepal misogynistic for living lives without women?

Timberrrrrrrr · 30-08-2016 08:43PM

maregal wrote: »

Swallowing the Red Pill means accepting the harsh "politically incorrect" realities of the world we live in. For example, the differing reactions to when a man rapes a woman (lock him up! castrate him!) compared to when a woman rapes a man (Niiiiice). Or how women expect equal pay to men but for doing less work. This is most pronounced in the case of the US military where women have much lower barriers to promotion for the sake of gender quotas. Or how about the nightclub scene which is stacked greatly in favour of women (free entry, beta males will buy you drinks, men must initiate contact giving you the power to pick and choose, even the ugliest, fattest girl can get laid).

Swallowing the Iron Pill acknowledges these truths but then rejects women as a response. This does not mean you're gay, it means you no longer allow your life to revolve around women or getting laid. An Iron Pill male will not allow himself to be subject to the unfair rules of a society that values him less than females. Rejecting women frees up your time and money to focus on intellectual pursuits and on becoming the best version of yourself. Work out everyday and lift weights to sculpt your body to perfection. Read books on philosophy, politics or history. Play video games if that's your thing without a nagging female telling you how you're a loser for doing so. Even Einstein got rid of his wife before coming up with his famous theory of relativity. There is no limit to what man can do if he stops wasting his precious time on Earth trying to woo females who use sex as currency.

Have never felt I have to live my life that way, does that make me ironman?

eviltwin · 30-08-2016 08:45PM

maregal wrote: »

No need to begin name-calling. I refuse to respond in kind.

The Iron pill is not about hating women. It just means the refusal to allow your life to revolve around them and their needs. Are Buddhist monks in Nepal misogynistic for living lives without women?

Why do you have to make a big song and dance about it and give it a ridiculous name, why not just do it or is it more about making some stupid point.

maregal · 30-08-2016 08:46PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Why do you have to make a big song and dance about it and give it a ridiculous name, why not just do it or is it more about making some stupid point.

Please answer the question: Are Buddhist monks in Nepal misogynistic for living lives without women?

Your refusal to do so leads me to believe you're scared of highlighting the holes in your name-calling logic.

Arevaci · 30-08-2016 08:47PM

The MGTOW movement is correct on many principles. However, mgtows tend to replace their sexual obsession with women with an aggressive obsession with women. My sense is that there's an underlying fantasy whereby if I act really mean to women and ignore them, they'll see what they're missing and come back to me.

My 'redpill' moment if you'd like to call it that came when I did a simple pros/cons analysis of having sex with women. My conclusion (based on experience and research) is that males will always want sex more than women, therefore women can pick and choose and use sex to get what they want - emotional and financial investment. I've hooked-up with women before but never have I come across an attractive girl interested in it - they know they can get much more out of a guy than a one night stand. The only exception is those top 5% of rich/attractive guys who seem to be able to get such girls on a consistent basis.

So I've come to realise that my fantasy of hooking up with an attractive, random stranger is a fantasy - and that my only chance to have sex with an attractive girl is within the confines of a relationship or after series of tedious dates . As a relationship would take up too much of my time and hinder my career progression, I therefore have no chance of having sex with an attractive girl and so there's no point in making an effort.

I've had this thought many times but was always unable to resist my urges to keep chase women. However, this time I've finally had a dose of realism and kept women out of my mind for the last two months. Have to say it has had many benefits. My sleep feels much more solid (no more urges to check my phone at night), pushing through personal bests in the gym and work seems a lot more entertaining than it used to (when you make your life more boring, boring things become entertaining).

Overall I feel my wellbeing has improved, I feel stronger, more attentive, more positive about the future. When I get the urge to go back I just keep thinking of the analogue that I wouldn't be stupid enough to go online and search for a four bedroom house in the middle of Dublin in the <100,000 price range; in the same way the idea that there's an attractive girl waiting there to hook up with me is equally ludicrous.

And I don't have anything against women. They don't want to hook up with me, I don't want to be in a relationship with them. We don't meet each other's need so there's no point in trying to manipulate each other's motives.

ancapailldorcha · 30-08-2016 08:47PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Why do you have to make a big song and dance about it and give it a ridiculous name, why not just do it or is it more about making some stupid point.

It needs a banner so to speak, a rallying call, a vigil for men to unite under in defiance of our overlords and their beta collaborators.

Dave0301 · 30-08-2016 08:48PM

maregal wrote: »

No need to begin name-calling. I refuse to respond in kind.

The Iron pill is not about hating women. It just means the refusal to allow your life to revolve around them and their needs. Are Buddhist monks in Nepal misogynistic for living lives without women?

Then why are your posts full of generalisations and use derogatory terms to describe women?

You say that men should go on a journey of self improvement to avoid a "parasitic" relationship...being a parasite is not gender specific.

eviltwin · 30-08-2016 08:49PM

maregal wrote: »

Please answer the question: Are Buddhist monks in Nepal misogynistic for living lives without women?

Your refusal to do so leads me to believe you're scared of highlighting the holes in your name-calling logic.

Might as well ask the same about Catholic priests, the answer there is no because they don't have some crazy notions about women accusing them of rape if they don't get expensive shoes or some such nonsense. Seriously, good luck to you. I think you're doing woman kind a huge favour by remaining single.

endacl · 30-08-2016 08:50PM

Jesus. People can be really daft at times...

Not aimed at you OP. Just an observation based on your thread.

30-08-2016 08:50PM

maregal wrote: »

No need to begin name-calling. I refuse to respond in kind.

The Iron pill is not about hating women. It just means the refusal to allow your life to revolve around them and their needs. Are Buddhist monks in Nepal misogynistic for living lives without women?

I actually doubt that Buddhist monks talk about women with the kind of dislike and hostile resentment that was abundantly clear in your OP.

So no, I don't think the Monks would compare in the misogyny stakes.

eviltwin · 30-08-2016 08:51PM

What's with all the reregs on this thread?

maregal · 30-08-2016 08:51PM

Arevaci wrote: »

And I don't have anything against women. They don't want to hook up with me, I don't want to be in a relationship with them. We don't meet each other's need so there's no point in trying to manipulate each other's motives.

This summarizes my point in a nutshell. Congrats on your enlightenment and newfound happiness my friend. I wish you all the success in the future.

Dave0301 · 30-08-2016 08:57PM

Arevaci wrote: »

I've hooked-up with women before but never have I come across an attractive girl interested in it - they know they can get much more out of a guy than a one night stand. The only exception is those top 5% of rich/attractive guys who seem to be able to get such girls on a consistent basis.

So I've come to realise that my fantasy of hooking up with an attractive, random stranger is a fantasy - and that my only chance to have sex with an attractive girl is within the confines of a relationship or after series of tedious dates . As a relationship would take up too much of my time and hinder my career progression, I therefore have no chance of having sex with an attractive girl and so there's no point in making an effort.

I've had this thought many times but was always unable to resist my urges to keep chase women. However, this time I've finally had a dose of realism and kept women out of my mind for the last two months. Have to say it has had many benefits. My sleep feels much more solid (no more urges to check my phone at night), pushing through personal bests in the gym and work seems a lot more entertaining than it used to (when you make your life more boring, boring things become entertaining).

Overall I feel my wellbeing has improved, I feel stronger, more attentive, more positive about the future. When I get the urge to go back I just keep thinking of the analogue that I wouldn't be stupid enough to go online and search for a four bedroom house in the middle of Dublin in the <100,000 price range; in the same way the idea that there's an attractive girl waiting there to hook up with me is equally ludicrous.

And I don't have anything against women. They don't want to hook up with me, I don't want to be in a relationship with them. We don't meet each other's need so there's no point in trying to manipulate each other's motives.

I am not trying to be smart or belittle your experiences, but newsflash, there are plenty of great women out there that love casual sex just as much as men, and I am not in the top 5% of anything :pac:

I would probably agree that a hook up may be more straight forward for a woman to achieve, but that is not to say that there are not women out there looking for no strings attached sex. It is also disingenuous to imply that women are looking to use sex to trap men in a relationship or to act as an exchange for other material goods.

Pat Mustard · 30-08-2016 09:00PM

Sounds like the "men going their own way" stuff. Is the expression "Iron Pill" actually used? Sounds ridiculous.

ancapailldorcha · 30-08-2016 09:01PM

Pat Mustard wrote: »

Sounds like the "men going their own way" stuff. Is the expression "Iron Pill" actually used? Sounds ridiculous.

+1.

Why would you want to eat a piece of iron? Surely a bon-bon would be much nicer. Or a Werther's Original.

endacl · 30-08-2016 09:03PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

+1.

Why would you want to eat a piece of iron? Surely a bon-bon would be much nicer. Or a Werther's Original.

Iron suppository sounds more apt. As in 'shove your silly theory...'?

kunst nugget · 30-08-2016 09:03PM

Bloody hell, there's some bleak worldviews on here. I'm glad I don't live my life viewing people like that. I suppose the upshot is that you won't be inflicting it on partners.

Can't say I've ever viewed my wife and daughters as parasites willing to shout rape if they don't get a pair of shoes but maybe they're just bidding their time...

Also, a quick Google shows you're talking out of your hole when it comes to Einstein.

30-08-2016 09:09PM

It must be awful to despise half the human race in the way the OP seems to. I can't imagine how much poorer my life would be without the many lovely men I know, work with, admire, and love.

rjpf1980 · 30-08-2016 09:09PM

maregal wrote: »

No need to begin name-calling. I refuse to respond in kind.

The Iron pill is not about hating women. It just means the refusal to allow your life to revolve around them and their needs. Are Buddhist monks in Nepal misogynistic for living lives without women?

Yes

endacl · 30-08-2016 09:11PM

Candie wrote: »

It must be awful to despise half the human race in the way the OP seems to. I can't imagine how much poorer my life would be without the many lovely men I know, work with, admire, and love.

Thread reminds me if that old 'joke'...

What's the difference between a whore and a bitch? A whore is a woman who'll sleep with anybody. A bitch is a woman who'll sleep with everybody but you.

:rolleyes:

You've heard of the Red Pill, but has anyone here taken the Iron pill?

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