GRO Records

shanew · 30-08-2016 04:04PM #1

some interesting news re Civil records from Irish Genealogy News

http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2016/08/onlnine-launch-irish-birth-marriage.html

hjr · 30-08-2016 04:06PM

If Ireland did knighthoods, Claire Santry would be top of the list...! Such a great source of reliable knowledge!

pinkypinky · 30-08-2016 04:14PM

Beyond excited.

Have a wishlist of certs already to go in preparation for this day.

Waitsian · 30-08-2016 04:23PM

Well, the devil is in the detail, so I'll reserve judgement for now but to avoid being called a stick in the mud I'll admit to being provisionally excited.

RGM · 30-08-2016 07:05PM

Is this essentially a release of all civil certs up to a certain year? Or am I misunderstanding what the registers are.

pinkypinky · 30-08-2016 07:13PM

Yes, that's right.

Hopefully they've consulted the DPC this time and they won't revoke it.

Waitsian · 30-08-2016 07:20PM

In effect, yes, I believe so. Birth certs up to the end of 1915 (14? 16?), marriage certs up to 1940 (?), and death certs up to 1965 (?). Images of original entries that is.

I find the last comment in Claire's blog entry intriguing too. The long awaited associated Griffiths books? Must be I suppose. Of course I don't mean the cancelled/revision books. I mean the others whose names I forget.

Edit: field, house and quarto books.

RGM · 30-08-2016 07:31PM

Wow.

Spare a moment for the dusty, musty genealogists of old who actually had to get dressed and leave their couch to do research.

Waitsian · 30-08-2016 07:40PM

RGM wrote:

Spare a moment for the dusty, musty genealogists of old who actually had to get dressed and leave their couch to do research.

I agree though John Grenham makes a good point about that very subject in his latest blog entry. Worth a read.

RGM · 30-08-2016 07:44PM

mod9maple wrote: »

I agree though John Grenham makes a good point about that very subject in his latest blog entry. Worth a read.

Of course. My biggest genealogical pet peeve is that so many people expect to be able to do everything online ("Why can't I find my own birth certificate?").

Still, it's amazing what can be done now.

Alan259 · 30-08-2016 09:01PM

This is phenomenal.

I wonder will they have the 'miscellaneous' GRO records included in this, e.g. births and deaths at sea, Lourdes marriages, etc.

pinkypinky · 30-08-2016 10:33PM

I doubt it. Wouldn't imagine there'd be more than a handful of Lourdes marriages over 75 years ago.

Jellybaby1 · 30-08-2016 10:49PM

Can't speak........holding breath! Been waiting for so many certs for so long.

spurious · 30-08-2016 10:53PM

I might finally find a trace of my 'disappeared' great grand uncle.

KildareFan · 30-08-2016 11:49PM

does this mean I could have saved all those 4euros I spent on copies?

shanew · 31-08-2016 07:31AM

wonder if these will be free as suggested back a few years ago, or there will be free access to the basic details, and a charge for a full image - a bit like the GRONI system ?

Speaking of GRONI, is this going to hit them since the GRO records (the books at least...) overlap with theirs, so all the births before the cut-off, many of the deaths and marriages.

Hermy · 31-08-2016 08:30AM

And what will happen to the GRO in Werburgh Street?
Will that close or will it continue as before?
And will they continue to charge for certs?

L1011 · 31-08-2016 09:03AM

shanew wrote: »

wonder if these will be free as suggested back a few years ago, or there will be free access to the basic details, and a charge for a full image - a bit like the GRONI system ?

Speaking of GRONI, is this going to hit them since the GRO records (the books at least...) overlap with theirs, so all the births before the cut-off, many of the deaths and marriages.

I would imagine fully free - they've not charged for anything else to date and the last government at least recognised the tourism value of the data.

I hope rolling updates like Scotlands People are part of the plan - I have plenty to want to get from 1918/1919 (and Emergency era marriages - only 1939/40 would currently be there) in a few years and have previously camped up on SP for Scottish records to appear in the wee hours of Jan 1st.

Hermy · 31-08-2016 09:06AM

Hermy wrote: »

And what will happen to the GRO in Werburgh Street?
Will that close or will it continue as before?
And will they continue to charge for certs?

Just realised there's still all the stuff after the 50/75/100 year rule to be accessed in Werburgh Street.:o

pinkypinky · 31-08-2016 11:38AM

Just reviewing my wishlist of certs to get: almost all are within the unrestricted period so it is genealogical Christmas for me.

Considering running a pool on how quickly the site crashes though.

Alan259 · 31-08-2016 01:23PM

pinkypinky wrote: »

I doubt it. Wouldn't imagine there'd be more than a handful of Lourdes marriages over 75 years ago.

AFAIK, the earliest Lourdes marriage that the GRO has a record of dates from 1939. So, it is just within the 75 year limit.

Waitsian · 31-08-2016 07:18PM

pinkypinky wrote:

Considering running a pool on how quickly the site crashes though.

Indeed. I always give these new sites a miss for the first couple of weeks, let them bed in, iron out the wrinkles. I've waited this long, I can wait another wee while.

pinkypinky · 31-08-2016 11:00PM

mod9maple wrote: »

Indeed. I always give these new sites a miss for the first couple of weeks, let them bed in, iron out the wrinkles. I've waited this long, I can wait another wee while.

That's no fun. You can't join the outrage then!

Mollymoo19 · 02-09-2016 08:48AM

Reading the new message on the site, I'd say they will definitely be freely available:

"The historic records of Births over 100 years ago, Marriages over 75 years ago and Deaths over 50 years ago of the General Register Office (GRO), will soon be available to view on www.irishgenealogy.ie, following their launch at 5.30pm on Thursday 8th September 2016."

I can't wait!! Will be checking every day next week, just in case they're early :-)

Mollymoo19 · 04-09-2016 08:42AM

hjr wrote: »

If Ireland did knighthoods, Claire Santry would be top of the list...! Such a great source of reliable knowledge!

We may not do knighthoods, but you can vote to make her a rockstar

http://anglo-celtic-connections.blogspot.ie/2016/09/rockstar-genealogists-2016-voting-now.html

hjr · 04-09-2016 02:44PM

Mollymoo19 wrote: »

We may not do knighthoods, but you can vote to make her a rockstar
http://anglo-celtic-connections.blogspot.ie/2016/09/rockstar-genealogists-2016-voting-now.html

Done! And a vote for Joe Buggy who visits this parish too! Always been a great help and source of knowledge during my research!

pinkypinky · 06-09-2016 11:09AM

It's oh so quiet.

Is everyone just working away on their wish lists?

L1011 · 06-09-2016 11:27AM

Need to find my two or three text files of lists to get and then it's time to trawl the tree for everyone else in that time frame as theres nothing wrong with being completist!

KildareFan · 06-09-2016 12:03PM

Ok, let's not all go at once, form an orderly queue.... me first!

Boscod · 06-09-2016 12:36PM

Site is down at the moment, something is happening!

pinkypinky · 06-09-2016 02:12PM

Working for me.

I trawled my tree and correlated the index references, but we won't know until the launch how we access the certs. For now, presuming it's a a name/place/year (or DOB/DOD/DOM) search. The index references may be obsolete, or at least obsolescent.

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