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Tell your crooked Irish people story

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 147 ✭✭Ericdravancrow


    An apartment block was built with scaffolding bar used instead if a concrete piller...just one but it was up through all the floors, builder tools me to 'F' off when I spotted them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Are we more corrupt that Russua...

    Eh, no.


    We're in the baby infants of corrupt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    It is? I'd be thinking more along the lines of south American and African countries for most corrupt on earth.

    Once someone gets above a certain level in Irish politics and/or business they are basically untouchable. If the truth does slip out somewhere they will be protected and in the incredibly rare situations when they do see the inside of a court room they will receive the softest sentences imaginable if convicted. A couple of years at the very most in some holiday camp like Loughan House or Shelton Abbey. This country is marinaded in corruption, it would give a lot of African and South American countries a run for their money.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 147 ✭✭Ericdravancrow


    But for 4.5million soul's we are bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    According to boards we're among the dysfunctional, corrupt, dishonest, closed minded, lazy, stupid people on earth. Yet despite it all have one of the safest countries on earth with a standard of living billions of people can only dream of.

    If anything, all these self loathing threads are complimenting Irish people, since without even putting our minds to it we've managed to rise above our (many, many) supposed faults to become one of the best places on earth to live.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 147 ✭✭Ericdravancrow


    Look at how certain counties elect Politicians, because they claim their 'up' against Dublin for the local man... people are sheep and cheer them on... crooked stories follow these guys every year.
    Kerry, Tipperary, Dublin, Galway, Limerick, Wexford to name a few recent local representatives for the people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    Once someone gets above a certain level in Irish politics and/or business they are basically untouchable. If the truth does slip out somewhere they will be protected and in the incredibly rare situations when they do see the inside of a court room they will receive the softest sentences imaginable if convicted. A couple of years at the very most in some holiday camp like Loughan House or Shelton Abbey. This country is marinaded in corruption, it would give a lot of African and South American countries a run for their money.
    The last sentence - bless. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 147 ✭✭Ericdravancrow


    According to boards we're among the dysfunctional, corrupt, dishonest, closed minded, lazy, stupid people on earth. Yet despite it all have one of the safest countries on earth with a standard of living billions of people can only dream of.

    If anything, all these self loathing threads are complimenting Irish people, since without even putting our minds to it we've managed to rise above our (many, many) supposed faults to become one of the best places on earth to live.

    Really...best for who?..our government says no to tax billions from Apple, but yes to water charges...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    Really...best for who?..our government says no to tax billions from Apple, but yes to water charges...
    That's all you can offer in response to the statement that Ireland is one of the best places in the world to live? How about... no war, food being plentiful, clean and easily accessible water, sanitation, education being easily accessible - mandatory up to a certain stage, we can criticise the government all we want, a very supportive social welfare system, safety - you generally don't have to worry about gangs in your day to day life, a reasonable minimum wage, houses and flats instead of shanty towns...

    There can be remarkable lack of perspective at times. Ireland isn't perfect of course but to doubt how good a place it is to live when we hear daily about the horror of e.g. Aleppo... is quite incredible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 147 ✭✭Ericdravancrow


    That's all you can offer in response to the statement that Ireland is one of the best places in the world to live? How about... no war, food being plentiful, clean and easily accessible water, sanitation, education being easily accessible - mandatory up to a certain stage, we can criticise the government all we want, a very supportive social welfare system, safety - you generally don't have to worry about gangs in your day to day life, a reasonable minimum wage, houses and flats instead of shanty towns...

    There can be remarkable lack of perspective at times. Ireland isn't perfect of course but to doubt how good a place it is to live when we hear daily about the horror of e.g. Aleppo... is quite incredible.

    Ireland is been economically attacked for the last 10 years..where have you been, this is the 'real' modern war.... Economics.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 147 ✭✭Ericdravancrow




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Ireland is been economically attacked for the last 10 years..where have you been, this is the 'real' modern war.... Economics.

    You know what? You are 100% right!

    First thing tomorrow I'm going to pack up my stuff and move to Syria, and while I'm there I'm going to tell the locals how lucky they are that they don't have to experience a proper war or corruption like Ireland.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 147 ✭✭Ericdravancrow


    You know what? You are 100% right!

    First thing tomorrow I'm going to pack up my stuff and move to Syria, and while I'm there I'm going to tell the locals how lucky they are that they don't have to experience a proper war or corruption like Ireland.

    Good man, because you can't see that it's America Vs Russia on a local level... that's been going on in small countries since WWII...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Good man, because you can't see that it's America Vs Russia on a local level... that's been going on in small countries since WWII...

    Stop drinking and go to bed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Ireland is been economically attacked for the last 10 years..where have you been, this is the 'real' modern war.... Economics.

    You forgot to tell him to "wake up"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Stop drinking and go to bed

    smoking more like...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    The reason corruption works so well in Ireland is because of our culture of silence. The reason we had such clerical abuse was because people didn't want to talk about it and didn't want to challenge the status quo. The whole notion of the "fighing Irish" is bogus unless it refers an American College football team, and doesn't represent our true, quiescent nature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    The reason corruption works so well in Ireland is because of our culture of silence. The reason we had such clerical abuse was because people didn't want to talk about it and didn't want to challenge the status quo. The whole notion of the "fighing Irish" is bogus unless it refers an American College football team, and doesn't represent are true, quiescent nature.

    Well in fairness they do turn into the" fighting Irish" when someone tells them truths that they don't like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mahoganygas


    It appears we can't help ourselves, we will do over all and anyone to line our pockets.... rumours about Nama, OCI, Politicians and expenses, people claiming welfare, lying about insurance claims, finance Ministers without bank accounts, transport ministers with no licence's, tribunal's without charges, regularly elected dodgy public representatives, shell companies, offshore accounts, dodgy Garda in Donegal...confess all.

    Is that you Mick Wallace?

    I know the Dail summer recess can be a bit quiet, but sit tight. The politicians will be back very soon. Then you can whinge and moan to your heart's content.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    Ireland is been economically attacked for the last 10 years..where have you been, this is the 'real' modern war.... Economics.
    None of this changes what I said. More that can be added to the list: no sweat-shops/child labour, electricity infrastructure, unusual for a household not to have at least one car...
    archer22 wrote: »
    Well in fairness they do turn into the" fighting Irish" when someone tells them truths that they don't like.
    What truths and who's "they" though?

    There's no denying that there has been corruption but it's still doesn't compare to countries that are actually cesspits of corruption and rotten to the core.

    I know some folk like to pretend this country is a third world mess, but they're wrong - and it's so easy to prove them wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,064 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Irish people complaining about Trump wanting rid of illegal immigrants. If they are not to be in a country they should be left home and this whole " cause we're Irish" is such a stuck up my arse comment. I hate Trump but if you're illegal you're illegal, simple as.

    EVENFLOW



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Define 'Irish people' OP.
    I don't want to come across as racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Howard the Duck


    Saw the number of pages and i'm very disappointed by the lack of stories here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    None of this changes what I said. More that can be added to the list: no sweat-shops/child labour, electricity infrastructure, unusual for a household not to have at least one car...

    What truths and who's "they" though?

    There's no denying that there has been corruption but it's still doesn't compare to countries that are actually cesspits of corruption and rotten to the core.

    I know some folk like to pretend this country is a third world mess, but they're wrong - and it's so easy to prove them wrong.

    The only factors that keep this country from becoming a "third world mess" are the following.
    Membership of the EU and the money they pump into it,plus the basic rules and regulations they impose that at least keep some checks and balances on the Gombeen men.

    The foreign multinationals here that provide so much employment.

    The safety valve of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, United States and UK that take a quarter of the population every 20 years when the inevitable greed and corruption fuelled economic collapse occurs.

    If you take out all those benevolent outside factors..what Ireland would be like does not bare thinking about.:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    More for the list - no famine, no diseases that wipe out reams of people, life expectancy of 80s.

    Even Ireland at its bleakest was always a lot better to live in than many many parts of the world.
    I don't object to people thinking Ireland could be improved in ways - I agree, it could. All I object to is the incredible lack of perspective people have when they claim it's such a terrible place to live in. In fairness, it's pretty poor taste. The quality of life here is extraordinary. So many new cars, so many restaurants and bars, shops always jammed at the weekend.

    It seems like people want to indulge in a perverse romanticising and pretend they're really downtrodden living here, and also the tendency of many Irish people to put down Irish people (but not themselves) yet not to suggest ways of improving things that aggrieve them, making them no better than the faceless mass whom they complain about - but of course what they are oblivious to is that they are part of that mass.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    archer22 wrote: »
    The only factors that keep this country from becoming a "third world mess" are the following.
    Membership of the EU and the money they pump into it,plus the basic rules and regulations they impose that at least keep some checks and balances on the Gombeen men.

    The foreign multinationals here that provide so much employment.

    The safety valve of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, United States and UK that take a quarter of the population every 20 years when the inevitable greed and corruption fuelled economic collapse occurs.

    If you take out all those benevolent outside factors..what Ireland would be like does not bare thinking about.:eek:

    Ah yeah, sure us paddy's are such a bunch of fvckwits that it wasn't for the foreigners putting a bit of manners it would be like an episode of The Walking Dead here in the space of a week or two.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    Ah yeah, sure us paddy's are such a bunch of fvckwits that it wasn't for the foreigners putting a bit of manners it would be like an episode of The Walking Dead here in the space of a week or two.
    Not the paddies who know better though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Ah yeah, sure us paddy's are such a bunch of fvckwits that it wasn't for the foreigners putting a bit of manners it would be like an episode of The Walking Dead here in the space of a week or two.

    Nothing to do with being a fvckwit as you put it. It takes alot of intelligence to be a successful gombeen, and I'm sure it also takes smarts to get ahead in countries that are far more corrupt at all levels (like Nigeria say).

    Being so stupidly greedy that you run things into the ground is counterproductive (although it has happened in Ireland).
    It is a fairly ineffective parasite that will fatally damage the host.

    We've a bit of a culture of corruption + poor ethics and shoddy standards here.
    People seem to expect it of those at the top.
    Nothing as pervasive as Africa or South Asia anything but (I think) stronger than most of Europe. Maybe parts of the south of Europe excluded? (Italy, Greece - have not lived in either so just going by what I read)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Saw the number of pages and i'm very disappointed by the lack of stories here.

    It is a small world. People don't like telling tales about others + being identified, maybe sued??:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,048 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


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