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The Italian earthquake

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  • #62
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    ThinkProgress wrote: »
    Well go on then... educate me oh wise sage!

    Tell me about all the deep historical and cultural links between Italy and Ireland... I can't wait to read it. :P

    Let me guess, we're both historically catholic countries right? Big deal. That doesn't mean we have close cultural links with a Latin country on the other side of europe.

    Oops try again! :D

    All western countries have huge cultural ties. A lot of our modern day laws, customs, lifestyles traits, in Ireland and all across Europe began in Ancient Rome. Its where western culture began, Ireland is a western country.


  • #63
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
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    Such a tragedy. Makes for a very sad read.

    It both sickens me that somehow people have somehow managed to discuss terrorism and debating about the disimilarities between Irleand and Italy. Who really gives a flying fcuk? These types of posts are anything but intelligent, really scrapping the bottom of the barrel there lads. Well done....


  • #64
    lcwill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭lcwill


    I live in Italy (and felt the quake last night). Death toll is high with a lot of children as this is the peak holiday season when everyone goes home from the cities to the villages where their family homes are, or where kids are sent to stay with grandparents for the summer. These villages are half empty in the winter.


  • #65
    ThinkProgress
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    All western countries have huge cultural ties. A lot of our modern day laws, customs, lifestyles traits, in Ireland and all across Europe began in Ancient Rome. Its where western culture began, Ireland is a western country.

    You're going too far back. Of course you can find links if you go back far enough...

    But modern Italian culture has very few ties to our culture. We are really culturally very different nations.

    All of the things people are pointing to as being deep ties, are actually just insignificant ties in the grand scheme of things. They do not add up to a deep connection between Italy and Ireland.


  • #66
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
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    ThinkProgress wrote: »
    But modern Italian culture has very few ties to our culture. We are really culturally very different nations.

    All of the things people are pointing to as being deep ties, are actually just insignificant ties in the grand scheme of things. They do not add up to a deep connection between Italy and Ireland.

    Who gives a shít and what does this have to do with the earthquake?


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  • #67
    bear1
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    How has a thread about the earthquake in central Italy gone to discussing the similarities between Ireland and Italy.
    How in the name of **** are they in any way similar and more to the point what has an earthquake got to do with it?


  • #68
    Mint Aero
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    When a wall crumbles. There's a rumble of crumble under a sundering dunder. When the fall is over only then can the people see over the verges to the edges of their horizon.


  • #69
    KingBrian2
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    I'd like to express my condolences to the people of Italy in their hour of loss. Italy is such a noble country. Their fleet rescues migrants in the Mediterranean, a powerful European country and they even house the Pope despite the misdeeds of the Curia.


  • #70
    dixiefly
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    I would like to echo these sentiments.


  • #71
    Ken.
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    Mod-threads merged


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  • #72
    ChikiChiki
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    Harrowing stuff. My thoughts are with the Italian people and the rescuers working so valiantly through the night alongside aftershocks.


  • #73
    Irish Stones
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    Death toll currentrly at 247, 190 in the province of the epicentre, and 57 in the nearby province.


  • #74
    NikoTopps
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    Absolutely awful. May all those lost rest in peace.


  • #75
    RobertKK
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    This is looking a lot worse than the L'Aquila earthquake.

    The earthquake had the power of blowing up 60 million sticks of dynamite and being close to the surface, it made the earthquake a lot worse.

    People have lost family and friends, they were not able to insure their homes given the risk of earthquakes, so now they depend on the government/state to help them.
    In every way this earthquake is going to take a heavy toll.


  • #76
    Irish Stones
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    they were not able to insure their homes given the risk of earthquakes, so now they depend on the government/state to help them

    In this country no insurance company will insure our homes, regardless the area where we live, for quakes.
    My area is classified 3A, low risk, nonetheless I wasn't able to insure my home for earthquakes. But in change they proposed me an insurance to cover damages from spaceships falling over my roof, no joke!

    The government/state always promise to help people everytime something terrible happens...
    The government/state add a new excise on petrol, get the cash in their pockets, but only a few cents are given to population in distress.
    In L'Aquila new temporary homes were built... they are still temporary... L'Aquila is being reconstructed but at a slower pace than they promised.
    In Sicily a terrible earthquake hit the Belice area in 1968, a quake with the same energy as the ones in L'Aquila and Amatrice, the same number of victims...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Belice_earthquake
    Nearly all houses were destroyed, people were relocated in temporary houses, namely containers. Many of them are still in there. Those who have a new home had to build them up with their own money.
    Government/state have already promised they will never leave these people alone. We heard these words before, many times.


  • #77
    ThinkProgress
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    Monroe Grumpy Shrubbery wrote: »
    Who gives a shít and what does this have to do with the earthquake?

    The author of this thread clearly does... because that's who I was replying to when I disputed his false assertion that Ireland and Italy have close ties!


  • #78
    RobertKK
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    ThinkProgress wrote: »
    The author of this thread clearly does... because that's who I was replying to when I disputed his false assertion that Ireland and Italy have close ties!

    Lets not go there again, you took a few words out of a much longer piece about the earthquake and decided to take issue with it.
    I didn't even bother replying as I didn't and still don't want to debate it.
    But this is what our department of foreign affairs says:
    Ireland and Italy have enjoyed a deep relationship over the centuries. Today we share a particularly warm and close friendship as enthusiastic and committed members of the European Union.

    Meanwhile people who live in the area badly affected by the earthquake have been told to move elsewhere as it is too dangerous.


  • #79
    ThinkProgress
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    Lets not go there again, you took a few words out of a much longer piece about the earthquake and decided to take issue with it.
    I didn't even bother replying as I didn't and still don't want to debate it.
    But this is what our department of foreign affairs says:
    Ireland and Italy have enjoyed a deep relationship over the centuries. Today we share a particularly warm and close friendship as enthusiastic and committed members of the European Union.

    Meanwhile people who live in the area badly affected by the earthquake have been told to move elsewhere as it is too dangerous.

    Our govt says something similar about practically every country in the world.

    That doesn't mean we share any kind of significant relationship with the country of Italy or it's inhabitants. Or have ever had any kind of deep routed cultural links...

    There's no special reason why Ireland would be particularly deeply affected by this tragedy as you seem to have been suggesting.

    Perhaps it would true if a similar tragedy occurred in Britain, USA, Australia etc because we certainly do have close historical ties with those nations... but no not Italy!


  • #80
    Boom_Bap
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    ThinkProgress wrote: »
    Our govt says something similar about practically every country in the world.

    That doesn't mean we share any kind of significant relationship with the country of Italy or it's inhabitants. Or have ever had any kind of deep routed cultural links...

    There's no special reason why Ireland would be particularly deeply affected by this tragedy as you seem to have been suggesting.

    Perhaps it would true if a similar tragedy occurred in Britain, USA, Australia etc because we certainly do have close historical ties with those nations... but no not Italy!

    This is not a compare the tragedy thread.

    Can we get back to the actual topic please.


  • #81
    Irish Stones
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    Death toll to 250 right now. About the same number are missing.
    I don't know if your news reported that, but a young couple moved to Amatrice after the quake in L'Aquila 7 years ago. They have been hit again, same tragedy, but this time they have lost their 18 months old baby.


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  • #82
    ThinkProgress
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    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    This is not a compare the tragedy thread.

    Can we get back to the actual topic please.

    I never compared any specific tragedy to this one.

    The author of the thread was expressing his surprise that Irish people weren't talking more about this tragedy on this forum...

    One of his stated reasons for being surprised, was that he thinks Ireland and Italy have a particularly close relationship as nations. So he obviously believes that there should be more interest in this news story.

    I was simply disagreeing with this point. As I have clearly pointed out, I don't think there is any particularly special or deep routed connection between our two nations.

    So from that perspective, there is no special or pertinent reason why Irish people should be any more interested in this tragedy than any other group of people.


  • #83
    KingBrian2
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    ThinkProgress wrote: »
    I never compared any specific tragedy to this one.

    The author of the thread was expressing his surprise that Irish people weren't talking more about this tragedy on this forum...

    One of his stated reasons for being surprised, was that he thinks Ireland and Italy have a particularly close relationship as nations. So he obviously believes that there should be more interest in this news story.

    I was simply disagreeing with this point. As I have clearly pointed out, I don't think there is any particularly special or deep routed connection between our two nations.

    So from that perspective, there is no special or pertinent reason why Irish people should be any more interested in this tragedy than any other group of people.

    A lot of Irish people, by no means the majority visit Rome. Go on pilgrimage and stay as tourists. So we do have certain close ties with Italian people if not the country itself. Italy is a lot different to Ireland. The southern region is very different. More African and the complex relationships with France, Germany, Switzerland and Austria is not at all like island Nation like Ireland so I agree with you on that.


  • #84
    IllBeGrand
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    Yeah one thing for sure is that Ireland has no historical or cultural ties to Italy especially Rome.


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