Royal Marine arrested in Dissident Republican terror plot

Arsemageddon · 24-08-2016 10:12PM

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

I'm more than open to taking on board your rebuttals if you have any.

No? Wow! Quelle surprise!

Rebuttals to what? Your amazingly brilliant posts?

This thread was about a Royal Marine arrested for having a connection to the 'RA However, you've decided to turn it into a thread about muslims* based on some ridiculously idiotic attempts at statistical analysis that leads you to conclude our own paramilitary groups are not a threat, despite the fact that they are still killing people.

I'll leave you to your bizarre agenda

*It's not as if there are no threads on that subject already

Esel · 24-08-2016 10:17PM

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Are you a bit slow or something?

It raises an interesting point mind. If some asylum seeker does eventually go all choppy I have little doubt Franny will be pedalling out the mental illnesss narrative. We already cover up the nationality of foreign gang rape suspects so why not.

The bizarre agenda...

Fratton Fred · 24-08-2016 10:18PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

Well you would question the motive of any Republican joining the great Royal Marines. Not that any Nationalist would get into the Marines.

I'd hazard a guess and day ammunition found in the arms dump last week was linked to him, so he may have been selling it off, rather than an actual member of a RIRA cell.

You never know though, stranger things have happened.

steddyeddy · 24-08-2016 10:19PM

Why are Muslims being debated again?

Esel · 24-08-2016 10:26PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Why are Muslims being debated again?

Because us cucks can't handle the truth...

skywanderer · 24-08-2016 10:32PM

Esel wrote: »

Because us cucks can't handle the truth...

Aren't Cucks usually men who invited (usually) black men into service their wives?

Billy86 · 25-08-2016 12:52AM

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

You...

Third time of asking: do your posts have anything to do with the British Marine who was arrested over a dissident terrorist plot, or would it be easier to just report your posts than keep asking?

Billy86 · 25-08-2016 12:58AM

skywanderer wrote: »

Aren't Cucks usually men who invited (usually) black men into service their wives?

Not sure there were many black people in 13th century England or France, though the fact that alt-righters feel the need to add the 'black' part says a quite a lot about them and their insecurities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cuckold
cuckold (n.) Look up cuckold at Dictionary.com
mid-13c., kukewald, from Old French cucuault, from cocu (see cuckoo) + pejorative suffix -ault, of Germanic origin. So called from the female bird's alleged habit of changing mates, or her authentic habit of leaving eggs in another bird's nest.

In Modern French the identity is more obvious: Coucou for the bird and cocu for the betrayed husband. German Hahnrei (13c.), from Low German, is of obscure origin. The second element seems to be connected to words for "ardent," and suggests perhaps "sexually aggressive hen," with transferal to humans, but Kluge suggests rather a connection to words for "capon" and "castrated." Related: Cuckoldry.

BalcombeSt4 · 25-08-2016 01:16AM

A Little Pony wrote: »

IRA terrorists still trying to cause murder and mayhem in the name of 'Ireland'. :rolleyes:

More like unwanted British soldiers still involving themselves in Irish politics. :rolleyes:

BalcombeSt4 · 25-08-2016 01:33AM

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

You seemed to intimate that dissident republicans and loyalists posed more of a threat to our country than Islamists.

There are currently more "active service" Islamists residing in the state than there are Republicans and Loyalists who have taken part in recent "active service" (if we discount drug related killings as active service and focus on their political violence). People in the RIRA and the CIRA don't want to go to prison for killing soldiers anymore, there's too much money to be made.

That's because they are a bigger threat than ISIS.

RIRA, CIRA & RRCIRA have killed two soldiers, two PNSI & two members of a prison service in the last 10 years.

A Little Pony · 25-08-2016 07:09AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

Well you would question the motive of any Republican joining the great Royal Marines. Not that any Nationalist would get into the Marines.

I take it you mean nationalist and republican in the Irish sense.

Yes.

A Little Pony · 25-08-2016 07:14AM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

IRA terrorists still trying to cause murder and mayhem in the name of 'Ireland'. :rolleyes:

More like unwanted British soldiers still involving themselves in Irish politics. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

25-08-2016 07:32AM

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

You seemed to intimate that dissident republicans and loyalists posed more of a threat to our country than Islamists.

There are currently more "active service" Islamists residing in the state than there are Republicans and Loyalists who have taken part in recent "active service" (if we discount drug related killings as active service and focus on their political violence). People in the RIRA and the CIRA don't want to go to prison for killing soldiers anymore, there's too much money to be made.

Funny how we have recently opened a 2nd Special Criminal Court then, for 30+ years we had only one.
So busy now, we need two.
People in the RIRA & CIRA are going to prison for something..........

El_Duderino 09 · 25-08-2016 07:57AM

ClovenHoof wrote:

If he was carrying the koran and shouting "kill all infidels" he would be deemed a poor unwell man who needs love and understanding.

I keep seeing this on boards but I can't find it anywhere else. Could you point me to one single source where someone gas said that a terrorist with mental illness needs love and understanding? It should be easy to find since you seem pretty certain that it's the case. You must have heard it somewhere or else you're just making it up.

I look forward to your reply with a source (which obviously won't come as NOBODY has ever said that terrorists need love and understanding)

FTA69 · 25-08-2016 08:10AM

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Since the rise of ISIS, in Western states ISIS (directly, or via sympathisers) have killed at least 365* people in over 60 attacks in at least 9 countries.

Since the 1994 IRA ceasefire Republican and Loyalist paramilitaries in the North have killed somewhere north of 120 of their own community members in internal feuds, drug wars and drug dealer taxation schemes, along with another two dozen or so killed by Republicans south of the border (almost all drug related).

That is roundabouts 150 bodies, not one of them related to anything remotely political apart from a load of former "soldiers" who suddenly found themselves out of "work" and in possession of firearms during the 1990's surge in demand for ecstasy and, later, cocaine (Loyalists and Republicans had been engaged in cannabis trafficking since at least the 80's).

Despite their only official reason for existing being to either kill security forces or kill nationalists, the Republicans have killed a single figure amount of security force members this century (six, off the top of my head) and the Loyalists haven't shot dead a Catholic in 14 odd years. We have more Syrian Islamist Jihadist veterans living on our island (30 to 50) than we have Republican/ Loyalist terrorists who have made a serious attempt to kill a member of their old target groups in the last 10- 15 years.

* make that 366, one of your friends was suffering oppression in rural Australia last night.

The IRA engaging in cannbais and ecstasy trafficking? Don't be stupid, the IRA was never involved in the drug trade.

Funnily enough out of thousands upon thousands of years of jaile time served by Provisional IRA members not one of them was for drugs.

rjpf1980 · 25-08-2016 08:51AM

There's a long history of Republicans joining the British Army to both learn British military organization and tactics and also to acquire professional military training and know how they can pass on to recruits. Republicans join the Irish Defence Forces for the same reasons.

However the majority of the IRA were civilians with no training bar learning the rudiments of pulling the trigger of a revolver or pistol at point blank range when shooting an off duty part time RUC or UDR member when he was sitting watching telly in his living room or when he was opening up the shop in the morning while back was turned.

At Loughall the SAS shot dead eight IRA men. The men were armed with automatic assault rifles but they might as well have been armed with cap guns. The untrained civilian will pray and spray without even aiming or looking at what he is shooting at in a firefight. A trained soldier used to live fire exercises will calmly aim and fire a short controlled burst into the centre mass. The SAS who took part in the ambush felt like it was murder because the IRA had no chance.

BalcombeSt4 · 25-08-2016 09:16AM

rjpf1980 wrote: »

There's a long history of Republicans joining the British Army to both learn British military organization and tactics and also to acquire professional military training and know how they can pass on to recruits. Republicans join the Irish Defence Forces for the same reasons.

However the majority of the IRA were civilians with no training bar learning the rudiments of pulling the trigger of a revolver or pistol at point blank range when shooting an off duty part time RUC or UDR member when he was sitting watching telly in his living room or when he was opening up the shop in the morning while back was turned.

At Loughall the SAS shot dead eight IRA men. The men were armed with automatic assault rifles but they might as well have been armed with cap guns. The untrained civilian will pray and spray without even aiming or looking at what he is shooting at in a firefight. A trained soldier used to live fire exercises will calmly aim and fire a short controlled burst into the centre mass. The SAS who took part in the ambush felt like it was murder because the IRA had no chance.

The IRA ASU at Loughall was one of the most experienced IRA units ever. The IRA's East Tyrone Brigade during the 80's was the equivalent to the West Cork brigade during the WOI.
In 1985 the same unit lead the full frontal assault on the Ballygawley barracks, they destroyed 2 more barraks in the Portadown area before deploying the digger tactic at The Birches.

I'm not doubting what your saying about IRA Vols joining the British Army being true but your wrong about Loughgall.

36 very well hidden soldiers + about another 30 members of RUC SB shouldn't have a huge amount of trouble killing 8 IRA men all roughly standimg in one spot 2 of whom weren't even armed.

Fozzie Bear · 25-08-2016 09:59AM

Heard an Interview on Newstalk about this issue earlier this morning.

They mentioned 2 arms dumps that were found in recent months in the Larne area (Strong Unionist population/area) and hinted strongly that this may not necessarily be a Republican related arrest.

Apparently some of the arms found in those dumps included improvised explosive devices modelled on those used specifically in Iraq which the security forces were puzzled at.

FrancieBrady · 25-08-2016 10:14AM

A full open and transparent inquiry is required to see how high up this goes in the British Army
There is a long history of the British Army colluding with others to achieve their aims.
Creating terror being one of them.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-08-2016 10:17AM

Fozzie Bear wrote:

Apparently some of the arms found in those dumps included improvised explosive devices modelled on those used specifically in Iraq which the security forces were puzzled at.

I wonder if this is more like an EDL thing with a focus on Muslims than a NI focus. Pure speculation but time will tell

Fratton Fred · 25-08-2016 11:07AM

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

Heard an Interview on Newstalk about this issue earlier this morning.

They mentioned 2 arms dumps that were found in recent months in the Larne area (Strong Unionist population/area) and hinted strongly that this may not necessarily be a Republican related arrest.

Apparently some of the arms found in those dumps included improvised explosive devices modelled on those used specifically in Iraq which the security forces were puzzled at.

Isn't that why the Irish army were in Afghanistan though, because IEDs used there were identical to ones used by the IRA?

BalcombeSt4 · 25-08-2016 04:06PM

FTA69 wrote: »

The IRA engaging in cannbais and ecstasy trafficking? Don't be stupid, the IRA was never involved in the drug trade.

Funnily enough out of thousands upon thousands of years of jaile time served by Provisional IRA members not one of them was for drugs.

The IPLO was the Republican group involved n drug dealing

pablomakaveli · 25-08-2016 04:29PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I wonder if this is more like an EDL thing with a focus on Muslims than a NI focus. Pure speculation but time will tell

You're right in having a suspicion of the EDL as they are a concern for the armed forces in Britain. They've tried to recruit serving soldiers before with the intent of acquiring weapons.

Royal Marine arrested in Dissident Republican terror plot

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