Royal Marine arrested in Dissident Republican terror plot

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Police have arrested a serving member of Britain’s armed forces for alleged involvement in preparing acts of terrorism, which may have been part of a plot to attack a target in England.

The man detained is believed to be a Royal Marine. Officers from Scotland Yard’s counter-terrorism command made the arrest on Wednesday at 12.20pm. It is believed to be linked to Northern Ireland-related terrorism.

The suspect, aged 30, was arrested in Somerset. Police said searches were under way in “a wooded area in south Devon” and in Northern Ireland.

The searches were for materials linked to republican terrorism, which are usually weapons or material related to explosives. Officers are potentially looking for storage dumps where material that could be used in an attack may have been hidden.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/24/member-british-forces-arrested-suspicion-of-northern-ireland-terrorism-offences?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Skylinehead

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My name is URL

Skylinehead wrote: »

Have you an opinion on this OP? We're not a newsdump.

Good that he was arrested before an attack happened, I guess

Why does everything need to come with an opinion attached? I just thought it was an interesting story which is of public interest.

The thread about Pat Hickey didn't come with an opinion from the OP either. Doesn't make the topic any less worthy of discussion.

Boom_Bap

It's part of the charter:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=63152622&postcount=21

And this is a discussion forum not a place to repost news articles.
If you want to talk about this more, get on the one of the mods by PM and not on thread.


In relation to the article, there's alot of 'alleged', 'maybe', 'believe', 'potentially'. I mean it's probably true given it's the unit that specialises, but I'd like to see this unravel a bit to see something concrete.

A Little Pony

IRA terrorists still trying to cause murder and mayhem in the name of 'Ireland'. :rolleyes:

steddyeddy

Not the first time a terrorist was in the BA. Good they caught him and prevented an attack.

ClovenHoof

If he was carrying the koran and shouting "kill all infidels" he would be deemed a poor unwell man who needs love and understanding.

As he is not a Muslim he has to be declared a sane terrorist oh course.

HalloweenJack

ClovenHoof wrote: »

If he was carrying the koran and shouting "kill all infidels" he would be deemed a poor unwell man who needs love and understanding.

I'm pretty sure if he was carrying the koran and shouting kill all infidels, there would be a section of people calling for all Muslims to be banned from being involved in the Royal Marines.

Imagine if now there are similar calls for a ban on all NI natives from Republican areas/Catholic families/people of Irish descent joining the Royal Marines because of the actions of one, I wonder how the reaction here would go.

Billy86

We get a gentle reminder that as a nation we have had more than our fair share of terrorists and still do have 'em... and in only 7 replies, we've got someone trying to pass the focus and blame on to Muslims. So predictable. :pac:

Good to see they got him though before anything could happen, and hats off to the relevant authorities.

skywanderer

This guy speaks for nobody and clearly must be mentally unwell.

Billy86

When they're Irish/British soldier, relating to Irish terrorism...

skywanderer wrote: »

This guy speaks for nobody and clearly must be mentally unwell.

When it's a brown Muslim person, relating to Islamic terrorism...

skywanderer wrote: »

The only people mentally ill here are the politically correct apologists who will label you as anything to divert attention away from the real issue.

A Little Pony

HalloweenJack wrote: »

ClovenHoof wrote: »

If he was carrying the koran and shouting "kill all infidels" he would be deemed a poor unwell man who needs love and understanding.

I'm pretty sure if he was carrying the koran and shouting kill all infidels, there would be a section of people calling for all Muslims to be banned from being involved in the Royal Marines.

Imagine if now there are similar calls for a ban on all NI natives from Republican areas/Catholic families/people of Irish descent joining the Royal Marines because of the actions of one, I wonder how the reaction here would go.

Well you would question the motive of any Republican joining the great Royal Marines. Not that any Nationalist would get into the Marines.

skywanderer

Billy86 wrote: »

When they're Irish/British soldier, relating to Irish terrorism...


When it's a brown Muslim person, relating to Islamic terrorism...

If you read what I wrote you'd see I am against use of this labelling and call them what they are terrorists, whether they be Islamic or Loyalist Royal Marines.

I object to all terror and its interesting to see how the media will treat this compared to other incidents where it is brushed under the carpet.

Alf Stewart.

A Little Pony wrote: »

Well you would question the motive of any Republican joining the great Royal Marines. Not that any Nationalist would get into the Marines.

I've reread that a few times now, and it still makes no sense.

Billy86

skywanderer wrote: »

If you read what I wrote you'd see I am against use of this labelling and call them what they are terrorists, whether they be Islamic or Loyalist Royal Marines.

I object to all terror and its interesting to see how the media will treat this compared to other incidents where it is brushed under the carpet.

That's the opposite of what you did though, unless you were being sarcastic when you said this guy must be mentally ill?

Either this guy could be mentally ill and so potentially could most/all terrorists be (which is what I would be more inclined to believe), or none of them are. You can't go and give out about terrorists being called mentally ill on one hand because you think it is a way people fob off those incidents, and then turn right around and call this terrorist mentally ill while trying to claim that he 'speaks for nobody'. Even if this guy planned to act alone (which I doubt he did given what was involved), he does speak for people - those involved in Republican terrorism.

Esel

"maryishere to aisle 6 stat. Republican-bashing opportunity presents itself."

steddyeddy

A Little Pony wrote: »

Well you would question the motive of any Republican joining the great Royal Marines. Not that any Nationalist would get into the Marines.

I take it you mean nationalist and republican in the Irish sense.

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Skylinehead wrote: »

Have you an opinion on this OP? We're not a newsdump.

My name is URL wrote: »

Good that he was arrested before an attack happened, I guess

Why does everything need to come with an opinion attached? I just thought it was an interesting story which is of public interest.

The thread about Pat Hickey didn't come with an opinion from the OP either. Doesn't make the topic any less worthy of discussion.

It's kinda funny. I called the poster out on that too, but was ridiculed. Boards.ie is not a newsdump... sometimes...


Kinda scary that this is still going on. I am interested to see how the investigation goes.

Ol Dirty Masscard

Billy86 wrote: »

We get a gentle reminder that as a nation we have had more than our fair share of terrorists and still do have 'em... and in only 7 replies, we've got someone trying to pass the focus and blame on to Muslims. So predictable. :pac:

Good to see they got him though before anything could happen, and hats off to the relevant authorities.

Since the rise of ISIS, in Western states ISIS (directly, or via sympathisers) have killed at least 365* people in over 60 attacks in at least 9 countries.

Since the 1994 IRA ceasefire Republican and Loyalist paramilitaries in the North have killed somewhere north of 120 of their own community members in internal feuds, drug wars and drug dealer taxation schemes, along with another two dozen or so killed by Republicans south of the border (almost all drug related).

That is roundabouts 150 bodies, not one of them related to anything remotely political apart from a load of former "soldiers" who suddenly found themselves out of "work" and in possession of firearms during the 1990's surge in demand for ecstasy and, later, cocaine (Loyalists and Republicans had been engaged in cannabis trafficking since at least the 80's).

Despite their only official reason for existing being to either kill security forces or kill nationalists, the Republicans have killed a single figure amount of security force members this century (six, off the top of my head) and the Loyalists haven't shot dead a Catholic in 14 odd years. We have more Syrian Islamist Jihadist veterans living on our island (30 to 50) than we have Republican/ Loyalist terrorists who have made a serious attempt to kill a member of their old target groups in the last 10- 15 years.






* make that 366, one of your friends was suffering oppression in rural Australia last night.

Mint Aero

The only terror a man faces is the terror he see when faced with terror.

Arsemageddon

Mint Aero wrote: »

The only terror a man faces is the terror he see when faced with terror.

That sounds like a quote from Bruce Forsyhte being all deep and philosophical.

Billy86

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Since...

Since this post has nothing to do with the Royal Marine being arrested as part of an Irish dissident Republican terror plot, why is it in this thread?

Ol Dirty Masscard

Billy86 wrote: »

Since this post has nothing to do with the Royal Marine being arrested as part of an Irish dissident Republican terror plot, why is it in this thread?

Because you threw a hissy fit pretending that Islamist terrorism is overblown, despite the fact we currently have more people resident in this state who have engaged in Islamist terrorism than we have Loyalists/ Republicans who have engaged in any meaningful level of terrorism (drug wars are not terrorism) in over a decade.

Your friends ISIS and their sympathisers have, in Western states, killed 10 percent of the North's total Troubles victims in about 18 months.

Arsemageddon

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Because you threw a hissy fit pretending that Islamist terrorism is overblown, despite the fact we currently have more people resident in this state who have engaged in Islamist terrorism than we have Loyalists/ Republicans who have engaged in any meaningful level of terrorism (drug wars are not terrorism) in over a decade.

ISIS and their sympathisers have, in Western states, killed 10 percent of the North's total Troubles victims in about 18 months.

Can you give any details about the numerous Islamic fundamentalist attacks that have taken place in Ireland? I seem to have missed them on the news.

Billy86

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Because you threw a hissy fit pretending that Islamist terrorism is overblown, despite the fact we currently have more people resident in this state who have engaged in Islamist terrorism than we have Loyalists/ Republicans who have engaged in any meaningful level of terrorism (drug wars are not terrorism) in over a decade.

Your friends ISIS and their sympathisers have, in Western states, killed 10 percent of the North's total Troubles victims in about 18 months.

Good job on the emotive wording, wow!

Now what I actually posted was this... your bar for 'hissy fit' is gas. Weird, but gas: We get a gentle reminder that as a nation we have had more than our fair share of terrorists and still do have 'em... and in only 7 replies, we've got someone trying to pass the focus and blame on to Muslims. So predictable. :pac:

You'll see that was in response to someone already eager to bring up Muslims, hence why I mentioned it.




So what do Muslims have to do with the IRA? Try actually answering that. You don't seem able to, hence how obviously shoe-horned in and silly the references in your post are.

Ol Dirty Masscard

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Can you give any details about the numerous Islamic fundamentalist attacks that have taken place in Ireland? I seem to have missed them on the news.

There are, on this island, between 30 and 50 people who have participated in armed Jihadist groups in Syria/ Iraq over the past four years, according to Gardai.

Loyalists haven't murdered their stated target group (Nationalists) by gunfire since circa 2002.

Republicans have killed roughly six members of the security forces in 15 years.

Ol Dirty Masscard

Billy86 wrote: »

Good job on the emotive wording, wow!

Now what I actually posted was this... your bar for 'hissy fit' is gas. Weird, but gas: We get a gentle reminder that as a nation we have had more than our fair share of terrorists and still do have 'em... and in only 7 replies, we've got someone trying to pass the focus and blame on to Muslims. So predictable. :pac:

You'll see that was in response to someone already eager to bring up Muslims, hence why I mentioned it.




So what do Muslims have to do with the IRA? Try actually answering that. You don't seem able to, hence how obviously shoe-horned in and silly the references in your post are.

You seemed to intimate that dissident republicans and loyalists posed more of a threat to our country than Islamists.

There are currently more "active service" Islamists residing in the state than there are Republicans and Loyalists who have taken part in recent "active service" (if we discount drug related killings as active service and focus on their political violence). People in the RIRA and the CIRA don't want to go to prison for killing soldiers anymore, there's too much money to be made.

Arsemageddon

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

There are, on this island, between 30 and 50 people who have participated in armed Jihadist groups in Syria/ Iraq over the past four years, according to Gardai.

Loyalists haven't murdered their stated target group (Nationalists) by gunfire since circa 2002.

Republicans have killed roughly six members of the security forces in 15 years.

So that would be zero Islamic fundamentalist attacks in Ireland then?

Ol Dirty Masscard

Arsemageddon wrote: »

So that would be zero Islamic fundamentalist attacks in Ireland then?

Are you a bit slow or something?

It raises an interesting point mind. If some asylum seeker does eventually go all choppy I have little doubt Franny will be pedalling out the mental illnesss narrative. We already cover up the nationality of foreign gang rape suspects so why not.

Arsemageddon

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Are you a bit slow or something?

If thinking your posts contain are a load of b0llocks filled with makey-uppey statistics then yes, I am slow.

Ol Dirty Masscard

Arsemageddon wrote: »

If thinking your posts contain are a load of b0llocks filled with makey-uppey statistics then yes, I am slow.

I'm more than open to taking on board your rebuttals if you have any.

No? Wow! Quelle surprise!