Royal Marine arrested in Dissident Republican terror plot

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Police have arrested a serving member of Britain’s armed forces for alleged involvement in preparing acts of terrorism, which may have been part of a plot to attack a target in England.

The man detained is believed to be a Royal Marine. Officers from Scotland Yard’s counter-terrorism command made the arrest on Wednesday at 12.20pm. It is believed to be linked to Northern Ireland-related terrorism.

The suspect, aged 30, was arrested in Somerset. Police said searches were under way in “a wooded area in south Devon” and in Northern Ireland.

The searches were for materials linked to republican terrorism, which are usually weapons or material related to explosives. Officers are potentially looking for storage dumps where material that could be used in an attack may have been hidden.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/24/member-british-forces-arrested-suspicion-of-northern-ireland-terrorism-offences?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Skylinehead

Have you an opinion on this OP? We're not a newsdump.

My name is URL

Skylinehead wrote: »

Have you an opinion on this OP? We're not a newsdump.

Good that he was arrested before an attack happened, I guess

Why does everything need to come with an opinion attached? I just thought it was an interesting story which is of public interest.

The thread about Pat Hickey didn't come with an opinion from the OP either. Doesn't make the topic any less worthy of discussion.

Boom_Bap

It's part of the charter:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=63152622&postcount=21

And this is a discussion forum not a place to repost news articles.
If you want to talk about this more, get on the one of the mods by PM and not on thread.


In relation to the article, there's alot of 'alleged', 'maybe', 'believe', 'potentially'. I mean it's probably true given it's the unit that specialises, but I'd like to see this unravel a bit to see something concrete.

A Little Pony

IRA terrorists still trying to cause murder and mayhem in the name of 'Ireland'. :rolleyes:

steddyeddy

Not the first time a terrorist was in the BA. Good they caught him and prevented an attack.

ClovenHoof

If he was carrying the koran and shouting "kill all infidels" he would be deemed a poor unwell man who needs love and understanding.

As he is not a Muslim he has to be declared a sane terrorist oh course.

HalloweenJack

ClovenHoof wrote: »

If he was carrying the koran and shouting "kill all infidels" he would be deemed a poor unwell man who needs love and understanding.

I'm pretty sure if he was carrying the koran and shouting kill all infidels, there would be a section of people calling for all Muslims to be banned from being involved in the Royal Marines.

Imagine if now there are similar calls for a ban on all NI natives from Republican areas/Catholic families/people of Irish descent joining the Royal Marines because of the actions of one, I wonder how the reaction here would go.

Billy86

We get a gentle reminder that as a nation we have had more than our fair share of terrorists and still do have 'em... and in only 7 replies, we've got someone trying to pass the focus and blame on to Muslims. So predictable. :pac:

Good to see they got him though before anything could happen, and hats off to the relevant authorities.

skywanderer

This guy speaks for nobody and clearly must be mentally unwell.

Billy86

When they're Irish/British soldier, relating to Irish terrorism...

skywanderer wrote: »

This guy speaks for nobody and clearly must be mentally unwell.

When it's a brown Muslim person, relating to Islamic terrorism...

skywanderer wrote: »

The only people mentally ill here are the politically correct apologists who will label you as anything to divert attention away from the real issue.

A Little Pony

HalloweenJack wrote: »

ClovenHoof wrote: »

If he was carrying the koran and shouting "kill all infidels" he would be deemed a poor unwell man who needs love and understanding.

I'm pretty sure if he was carrying the koran and shouting kill all infidels, there would be a section of people calling for all Muslims to be banned from being involved in the Royal Marines.

Imagine if now there are similar calls for a ban on all NI natives from Republican areas/Catholic families/people of Irish descent joining the Royal Marines because of the actions of one, I wonder how the reaction here would go.

Well you would question the motive of any Republican joining the great Royal Marines. Not that any Nationalist would get into the Marines.

skywanderer

Billy86 wrote: »

When they're Irish/British soldier, relating to Irish terrorism...


When it's a brown Muslim person, relating to Islamic terrorism...

If you read what I wrote you'd see I am against use of this labelling and call them what they are terrorists, whether they be Islamic or Loyalist Royal Marines.

I object to all terror and its interesting to see how the media will treat this compared to other incidents where it is brushed under the carpet.

Alf Stewart.

A Little Pony wrote: »

Well you would question the motive of any Republican joining the great Royal Marines. Not that any Nationalist would get into the Marines.

I've reread that a few times now, and it still makes no sense.

Billy86

skywanderer wrote: »

If you read what I wrote you'd see I am against use of this labelling and call them what they are terrorists, whether they be Islamic or Loyalist Royal Marines.

I object to all terror and its interesting to see how the media will treat this compared to other incidents where it is brushed under the carpet.

That's the opposite of what you did though, unless you were being sarcastic when you said this guy must be mentally ill?

Either this guy could be mentally ill and so potentially could most/all terrorists be (which is what I would be more inclined to believe), or none of them are. You can't go and give out about terrorists being called mentally ill on one hand because you think it is a way people fob off those incidents, and then turn right around and call this terrorist mentally ill while trying to claim that he 'speaks for nobody'. Even if this guy planned to act alone (which I doubt he did given what was involved), he does speak for people - those involved in Republican terrorism.

Esel

"maryishere to aisle 6 stat. Republican-bashing opportunity presents itself."

steddyeddy

A Little Pony wrote: »

Well you would question the motive of any Republican joining the great Royal Marines. Not that any Nationalist would get into the Marines.

I take it you mean nationalist and republican in the Irish sense.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Skylinehead wrote: »

Have you an opinion on this OP? We're not a newsdump.

My name is URL wrote: »

Good that he was arrested before an attack happened, I guess

Why does everything need to come with an opinion attached? I just thought it was an interesting story which is of public interest.

The thread about Pat Hickey didn't come with an opinion from the OP either. Doesn't make the topic any less worthy of discussion.

It's kinda funny. I called the poster out on that too, but was ridiculed. Boards.ie is not a newsdump... sometimes...


Kinda scary that this is still going on. I am interested to see how the investigation goes.

Ol Dirty Masscard

Billy86 wrote: »

We get a gentle reminder that as a nation we have had more than our fair share of terrorists and still do have 'em... and in only 7 replies, we've got someone trying to pass the focus and blame on to Muslims. So predictable. :pac:

Good to see they got him though before anything could happen, and hats off to the relevant authorities.

Since the rise of ISIS, in Western states ISIS (directly, or via sympathisers) have killed at least 365* people in over 60 attacks in at least 9 countries.

Since the 1994 IRA ceasefire Republican and Loyalist paramilitaries in the North have killed somewhere north of 120 of their own community members in internal feuds, drug wars and drug dealer taxation schemes, along with another two dozen or so killed by Republicans south of the border (almost all drug related).

That is roundabouts 150 bodies, not one of them related to anything remotely political apart from a load of former "soldiers" who suddenly found themselves out of "work" and in possession of firearms during the 1990's surge in demand for ecstasy and, later, cocaine (Loyalists and Republicans had been engaged in cannabis trafficking since at least the 80's).

Despite their only official reason for existing being to either kill security forces or kill nationalists, the Republicans have killed a single figure amount of security force members this century (six, off the top of my head) and the Loyalists haven't shot dead a Catholic in 14 odd years. We have more Syrian Islamist Jihadist veterans living on our island (30 to 50) than we have Republican/ Loyalist terrorists who have made a serious attempt to kill a member of their old target groups in the last 10- 15 years.






* make that 366, one of your friends was suffering oppression in rural Australia last night.

Mint Aero

The only terror a man faces is the terror he see when faced with terror.

Arsemageddon

Mint Aero wrote: »

The only terror a man faces is the terror he see when faced with terror.

That sounds like a quote from Bruce Forsyhte being all deep and philosophical.

Billy86

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Since...

Since this post has nothing to do with the Royal Marine being arrested as part of an Irish dissident Republican terror plot, why is it in this thread?

Ol Dirty Masscard

Billy86 wrote: »

Since this post has nothing to do with the Royal Marine being arrested as part of an Irish dissident Republican terror plot, why is it in this thread?

Because you threw a hissy fit pretending that Islamist terrorism is overblown, despite the fact we currently have more people resident in this state who have engaged in Islamist terrorism than we have Loyalists/ Republicans who have engaged in any meaningful level of terrorism (drug wars are not terrorism) in over a decade.

Your friends ISIS and their sympathisers have, in Western states, killed 10 percent of the North's total Troubles victims in about 18 months.

Arsemageddon

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Because you threw a hissy fit pretending that Islamist terrorism is overblown, despite the fact we currently have more people resident in this state who have engaged in Islamist terrorism than we have Loyalists/ Republicans who have engaged in any meaningful level of terrorism (drug wars are not terrorism) in over a decade.

ISIS and their sympathisers have, in Western states, killed 10 percent of the North's total Troubles victims in about 18 months.

Can you give any details about the numerous Islamic fundamentalist attacks that have taken place in Ireland? I seem to have missed them on the news.

Billy86

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Because you threw a hissy fit pretending that Islamist terrorism is overblown, despite the fact we currently have more people resident in this state who have engaged in Islamist terrorism than we have Loyalists/ Republicans who have engaged in any meaningful level of terrorism (drug wars are not terrorism) in over a decade.

Your friends ISIS and their sympathisers have, in Western states, killed 10 percent of the North's total Troubles victims in about 18 months.

Good job on the emotive wording, wow!

Now what I actually posted was this... your bar for 'hissy fit' is gas. Weird, but gas: We get a gentle reminder that as a nation we have had more than our fair share of terrorists and still do have 'em... and in only 7 replies, we've got someone trying to pass the focus and blame on to Muslims. So predictable. :pac:

You'll see that was in response to someone already eager to bring up Muslims, hence why I mentioned it.




So what do Muslims have to do with the IRA? Try actually answering that. You don't seem able to, hence how obviously shoe-horned in and silly the references in your post are.

Ol Dirty Masscard

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Can you give any details about the numerous Islamic fundamentalist attacks that have taken place in Ireland? I seem to have missed them on the news.

There are, on this island, between 30 and 50 people who have participated in armed Jihadist groups in Syria/ Iraq over the past four years, according to Gardai.

Loyalists haven't murdered their stated target group (Nationalists) by gunfire since circa 2002.

Republicans have killed roughly six members of the security forces in 15 years.

Ol Dirty Masscard

Billy86 wrote: »

Good job on the emotive wording, wow!

Now what I actually posted was this... your bar for 'hissy fit' is gas. Weird, but gas: We get a gentle reminder that as a nation we have had more than our fair share of terrorists and still do have 'em... and in only 7 replies, we've got someone trying to pass the focus and blame on to Muslims. So predictable. :pac:

You'll see that was in response to someone already eager to bring up Muslims, hence why I mentioned it.




So what do Muslims have to do with the IRA? Try actually answering that. You don't seem able to, hence how obviously shoe-horned in and silly the references in your post are.

You seemed to intimate that dissident republicans and loyalists posed more of a threat to our country than Islamists.

There are currently more "active service" Islamists residing in the state than there are Republicans and Loyalists who have taken part in recent "active service" (if we discount drug related killings as active service and focus on their political violence). People in the RIRA and the CIRA don't want to go to prison for killing soldiers anymore, there's too much money to be made.

Arsemageddon

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

There are, on this island, between 30 and 50 people who have participated in armed Jihadist groups in Syria/ Iraq over the past four years, according to Gardai.

Loyalists haven't murdered their stated target group (Nationalists) by gunfire since circa 2002.

Republicans have killed roughly six members of the security forces in 15 years.

So that would be zero Islamic fundamentalist attacks in Ireland then?

Ol Dirty Masscard

Arsemageddon wrote: »

So that would be zero Islamic fundamentalist attacks in Ireland then?

Are you a bit slow or something?

It raises an interesting point mind. If some asylum seeker does eventually go all choppy I have little doubt Franny will be pedalling out the mental illnesss narrative. We already cover up the nationality of foreign gang rape suspects so why not.

Arsemageddon

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Are you a bit slow or something?

If thinking your posts contain are a load of b0llocks filled with makey-uppey statistics then yes, I am slow.

Ol Dirty Masscard

Arsemageddon wrote: »

If thinking your posts contain are a load of b0llocks filled with makey-uppey statistics then yes, I am slow.

I'm more than open to taking on board your rebuttals if you have any.

No? Wow! Quelle surprise!

Arsemageddon

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

I'm more than open to taking on board your rebuttals if you have any.

No? Wow! Quelle surprise!

Rebuttals to what? Your amazingly brilliant posts?

This thread was about a Royal Marine arrested for having a connection to the 'RA However, you've decided to turn it into a thread about muslims* based on some ridiculously idiotic attempts at statistical analysis that leads you to conclude our own paramilitary groups are not a threat, despite the fact that they are still killing people.

I'll leave you to your bizarre agenda


*It's not as if there are no threads on that subject already

Esel

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Are you a bit slow or something?

It raises an interesting point mind. If some asylum seeker does eventually go all choppy I have little doubt Franny will be pedalling out the mental illnesss narrative. We already cover up the nationality of foreign gang rape suspects so why not.

The bizarre agenda...

Fratton Fred

A Little Pony wrote: »

Well you would question the motive of any Republican joining the great Royal Marines. Not that any Nationalist would get into the Marines.

I'd hazard a guess and day ammunition found in the arms dump last week was linked to him, so he may have been selling it off, rather than an actual member of a RIRA cell.

You never know though, stranger things have happened.

steddyeddy

Why are Muslims being debated again?

Esel

steddyeddy wrote: »

Why are Muslims being debated again?

Because us cucks can't handle the truth...

skywanderer

Esel wrote: »

Because us cucks can't handle the truth...

Aren't Cucks usually men who invited (usually) black men into service their wives?

Billy86

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

You...

Third time of asking: do your posts have anything to do with the British Marine who was arrested over a dissident terrorist plot, or would it be easier to just report your posts than keep asking?

Billy86

skywanderer wrote: »

Aren't Cucks usually men who invited (usually) black men into service their wives?

Not sure there were many black people in 13th century England or France, though the fact that alt-righters feel the need to add the 'black' part says a quite a lot about them and their insecurities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cuckold
cuckold (n.) Look up cuckold at Dictionary.com
mid-13c., kukewald, from Old French cucuault, from cocu (see cuckoo) + pejorative suffix -ault, of Germanic origin. So called from the female bird's alleged habit of changing mates, or her authentic habit of leaving eggs in another bird's nest.

In Modern French the identity is more obvious: Coucou for the bird and cocu for the betrayed husband. German Hahnrei (13c.), from Low German, is of obscure origin. The second element seems to be connected to words for "ardent," and suggests perhaps "sexually aggressive hen," with transferal to humans, but Kluge suggests rather a connection to words for "capon" and "castrated." Related: Cuckoldry.

BalcombeSt4

A Little Pony wrote: »

IRA terrorists still trying to cause murder and mayhem in the name of 'Ireland'. :rolleyes:

More like unwanted British soldiers still involving themselves in Irish politics. :rolleyes:

BalcombeSt4

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

You seemed to intimate that dissident republicans and loyalists posed more of a threat to our country than Islamists.

There are currently more "active service" Islamists residing in the state than there are Republicans and Loyalists who have taken part in recent "active service" (if we discount drug related killings as active service and focus on their political violence). People in the RIRA and the CIRA don't want to go to prison for killing soldiers anymore, there's too much money to be made.

That's because they are a bigger threat than ISIS.

RIRA, CIRA & RRCIRA have killed two soldiers, two PNSI & two members of a prison service in the last 10 years.

A Little Pony

steddyeddy wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

Well you would question the motive of any Republican joining the great Royal Marines. Not that any Nationalist would get into the Marines.

I take it you mean nationalist and republican in the Irish sense.

Yes.

A Little Pony

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

IRA terrorists still trying to cause murder and mayhem in the name of 'Ireland'. :rolleyes:

More like unwanted British soldiers still involving themselves in Irish politics. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

Ol Dirty Masscard

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

You seemed to intimate that dissident republicans and loyalists posed more of a threat to our country than Islamists.

There are currently more "active service" Islamists residing in the state than there are Republicans and Loyalists who have taken part in recent "active service" (if we discount drug related killings as active service and focus on their political violence). People in the RIRA and the CIRA don't want to go to prison for killing soldiers anymore, there's too much money to be made.

Funny how we have recently opened a 2nd Special Criminal Court then, for 30+ years we had only one.
So busy now, we need two.
People in the RIRA & CIRA are going to prison for something..........

El_Duderino 09

ClovenHoof wrote:

If he was carrying the koran and shouting "kill all infidels" he would be deemed a poor unwell man who needs love and understanding.

I keep seeing this on boards but I can't find it anywhere else. Could you point me to one single source where someone gas said that a terrorist with mental illness needs love and understanding? It should be easy to find since you seem pretty certain that it's the case. You must have heard it somewhere or else you're just making it up.

I look forward to your reply with a source (which obviously won't come as NOBODY has ever said that terrorists need love and understanding)

FTA69

Ol Dirty Masscard wrote: »

Since the rise of ISIS, in Western states ISIS (directly, or via sympathisers) have killed at least 365* people in over 60 attacks in at least 9 countries.

Since the 1994 IRA ceasefire Republican and Loyalist paramilitaries in the North have killed somewhere north of 120 of their own community members in internal feuds, drug wars and drug dealer taxation schemes, along with another two dozen or so killed by Republicans south of the border (almost all drug related).

That is roundabouts 150 bodies, not one of them related to anything remotely political apart from a load of former "soldiers" who suddenly found themselves out of "work" and in possession of firearms during the 1990's surge in demand for ecstasy and, later, cocaine (Loyalists and Republicans had been engaged in cannabis trafficking since at least the 80's).

Despite their only official reason for existing being to either kill security forces or kill nationalists, the Republicans have killed a single figure amount of security force members this century (six, off the top of my head) and the Loyalists haven't shot dead a Catholic in 14 odd years. We have more Syrian Islamist Jihadist veterans living on our island (30 to 50) than we have Republican/ Loyalist terrorists who have made a serious attempt to kill a member of their old target groups in the last 10- 15 years.






* make that 366, one of your friends was suffering oppression in rural Australia last night.

The IRA engaging in cannbais and ecstasy trafficking? Don't be stupid, the IRA was never involved in the drug trade.

Funnily enough out of thousands upon thousands of years of jaile time served by Provisional IRA members not one of them was for drugs.

rjpf1980

There's a long history of Republicans joining the British Army to both learn British military organization and tactics and also to acquire professional military training and know how they can pass on to recruits. Republicans join the Irish Defence Forces for the same reasons.

However the majority of the IRA were civilians with no training bar learning the rudiments of pulling the trigger of a revolver or pistol at point blank range when shooting an off duty part time RUC or UDR member when he was sitting watching telly in his living room or when he was opening up the shop in the morning while back was turned.

At Loughall the SAS shot dead eight IRA men. The men were armed with automatic assault rifles but they might as well have been armed with cap guns. The untrained civilian will pray and spray without even aiming or looking at what he is shooting at in a firefight. A trained soldier used to live fire exercises will calmly aim and fire a short controlled burst into the centre mass. The SAS who took part in the ambush felt like it was murder because the IRA had no chance.

BalcombeSt4

rjpf1980 wrote: »

There's a long history of Republicans joining the British Army to both learn British military organization and tactics and also to acquire professional military training and know how they can pass on to recruits. Republicans join the Irish Defence Forces for the same reasons.

However the majority of the IRA were civilians with no training bar learning the rudiments of pulling the trigger of a revolver or pistol at point blank range when shooting an off duty part time RUC or UDR member when he was sitting watching telly in his living room or when he was opening up the shop in the morning while back was turned.

At Loughall the SAS shot dead eight IRA men. The men were armed with automatic assault rifles but they might as well have been armed with cap guns. The untrained civilian will pray and spray without even aiming or looking at what he is shooting at in a firefight. A trained soldier used to live fire exercises will calmly aim and fire a short controlled burst into the centre mass. The SAS who took part in the ambush felt like it was murder because the IRA had no chance.

The IRA ASU at Loughall was one of the most experienced IRA units ever. The IRA's East Tyrone Brigade during the 80's was the equivalent to the West Cork brigade during the WOI.
In 1985 the same unit lead the full frontal assault on the Ballygawley barracks, they destroyed 2 more barraks in the Portadown area before deploying the digger tactic at The Birches.

I'm not doubting what your saying about IRA Vols joining the British Army being true but your wrong about Loughgall.

36 very well hidden soldiers + about another 30 members of RUC SB shouldn't have a huge amount of trouble killing 8 IRA men all roughly standimg in one spot 2 of whom weren't even armed.

Fozzie Bear

Heard an Interview on Newstalk about this issue earlier this morning.

They mentioned 2 arms dumps that were found in recent months in the Larne area (Strong Unionist population/area) and hinted strongly that this may not necessarily be a Republican related arrest.

Apparently some of the arms found in those dumps included improvised explosive devices modelled on those used specifically in Iraq which the security forces were puzzled at.

FrancieBrady

A full open and transparent inquiry is required to see how high up this goes in the British Army
There is a long history of the British Army colluding with others to achieve their aims.
Creating terror being one of them.

El_Duderino 09

Fozzie Bear wrote:

Apparently some of the arms found in those dumps included improvised explosive devices modelled on those used specifically in Iraq which the security forces were puzzled at.

I wonder if this is more like an EDL thing with a focus on Muslims than a NI focus. Pure speculation but time will tell