EIF levy deductions?

oide10 · 22-08-2016 02:58PM #1

I'm helping my father with his property and finances as he isn't that well. A letter came regarding an EIF levy and that if he wished to pay it to contact them via a written letter. My father is vague about what this levy is for. So my question is - is it necessary? Should it be paid and if so, to what does it contribute?

Thanks in advance for any insight ye could give me.

boggerman1 · 22-08-2016 03:45PM

oide10 wrote: »

I'm helping my father with his property and finances as he isn't that well. A letter came regarding an EIF levy and that if he wished to pay it to contact them via a written letter. My father is vague about what this levy is for. So my question is - is it necessary? Should it be paid and if so, to what does it contribute?

Thanks in advance for any insight ye could give me.

It's a levy that the ifa were taking off farmers via cattle sales or milk.it was used to pay the big wigs in the ifa.don't pay it again

50HX · 22-08-2016 06:44PM

just got the letter from ABP today

opt in - no reply is auto opt out

rangler1 · 23-08-2016 07:43AM

boggerman1 wrote: »

It's a levy that the ifa were taking off farmers via cattle sales or milk.it was used to pay the big wigs in the ifa.don't pay it again

An ICSA rep told what his expenses were lately....if farmers expect fellow farmers to leave their farm and run their cars for that, farming has definitely reached a new low.....another race to the bottom

23-08-2016 07:46AM

rangler1 wrote: »

An ICSA rep told what his expenses were lately....if farmers expect fellow farmers to leave their farm and run their cars for that, farming has definitely reached a new low.....another race to the bottom

Bite their nose to spite themselves, wait until it really starts to hit home having no real representation is like. Best try find some new crowd to blame for a few years time.

Keepgrowing · 23-08-2016 08:41AM

The EIF is collected at point of sale i.e. mart, meat factory or milk processor. It goes to fund IFA.

Milkybar Kid. · 23-08-2016 08:44AM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

The EIF is collected at point of sale i.e. mart, meat factory or milk processor. It goes to fund IFA.

Does the collector get a % of what they collect. Heard Larry got 50%.

Keepgrowing · 23-08-2016 08:55AM

Milkybar Kid. wrote: »

Does the collector get a % of what they collect. Heard Larry got 50%.

No idea

farmerjj · 23-08-2016 09:33AM

Milkybar Kid. wrote: »

Does the collector get a % of what they collect. Heard Larry got 50%.

Where did you get that gem?

rangler1 · 23-08-2016 09:37AM

farmerjj wrote: »

Where did you get that gem?

Barstool experts, some places don't charge, I think the highest charge is 15%.......you'd want it to compensate for the abuse

mf240 · 23-08-2016 10:23AM

Milkybar Kid. wrote: »

Does the collector get a % of what they collect. Heard Larry got 50%.

More likely to throw in a few extra pound to keep the boys sweet.

I'd have no problem paying extra in membership but I absolutely cannot support any group who are being paid by the factorys.

rangler1 · 23-08-2016 11:16AM

mf240 wrote: »

More likely to throw in a few extra pound to keep the boys sweet.

I'd have no problem paying extra in membership but I absolutely cannot support any group who are being paid by the factorys.

I've been out collecting membership and i can assure you that generosity is not common out there.
And if you look at your milk/meat dockets you will see it's you not the factory that's contributing. If IFA change over to a flatrate charge/ac, I fu....d if I'm gonna be contributing, the gap between dairy and drystock incomes is too big to be equitable form of funding.

Government/department ag will only be delighted to have IFA broke and out of the way.

There is a proposal out there now that the industry should contribute to IFA because of the representation we give in europe.
If beef processor contribute €1/hd, you know where they're going to get that....the bullock and the lamb pays for everything.

Willfarman · 23-08-2016 12:15PM

rangler1 wrote: »

I've been out collecting membership and i can assure you that generosity is not common out there.
And if you look at your milk/meat dockets you will see it's you not the factory that's contributing. If IFA change over to a flatrate charge/ac, I fu....d if I'm gonna be contributing, the gap between dairy and drystock incomes is too big to be equitable form of funding.

Government/department ag will only be delighted to have IFA broke and out of the way.

There is a proposal out there now that the industry should contribute to IFA because of the representation we give in europe.
If beef processor contribute €1/hd, you know where they're going to get that....the bullock and the lamb pays for everything.

The levy is a percentage of sales, not nett profit or income. Allow a finisher a paltry nett profit of 100quid after keeping an animal for a year and the IFA help themselves to 2 euro out of it to pay 400 thousand euro salaries to pot bellied asses with d'loreal complex.

blue5000 · 23-08-2016 12:48PM

OP you don't need to reply to the letter. l'oreal complex

rangler1 · 23-08-2016 01:06PM

Willfarman wrote: »

The levy is a percentage of sales, not nett profit or income. Allow a finisher a paltry nett profit of 100quid after keeping an animal for a year and the IFA help themselves to 2 euro out of it to pay 400 thousand euro salaries to pot bellied asses with d'loreal complex.

to behonest, 400000 wouldn't be enough to compensate me to listen to what come, so gratefuuly I'll decline...you should try it for a while.
Happy with the way things are going here, so I definitely wouldn't do it again just for the expenses.
To me, pat smith looks to be a fit man. more than likely fitter than you.
glasshouses and throwing stones etc etc....but then maybe you're perfect, you seem to like commenting on men figures !!!!!!.....????????

rangler1 · 23-08-2016 01:29PM

blue5000 wrote: »

OP you don't need to reply to the letter. l'oreal complex

Checking out males and loreal complex....what are we dealing with here

Willfarman · 23-08-2016 01:58PM

rangler1 wrote: »

to behonest, 400000 wouldn't be enough to compensate me to listen to what come, so gratefuuly I'll decline...you should try it for a while.
Happy with the way things are going here, so I definitely wouldn't do it again just for the expenses.
To me, pat smith looks to be a fit man. more than likely fitter than you.
glasshouses and throwing stones etc etc....but then maybe you're perfect, you seem to like commenting on men figures !!!!!!.....????????

My main disdain is for the pure unadulterated arrogance and greed at the heart of the organisation.

Take the case of a farmer with a hundred acres finishing cattle . Nett income of 15000 ( if he's done well) but sales of €100,000. Ifa whip €150 out of his cheques. And pay €435000 plus a company car and expenses to one individual.,

"Try it yourself sometime?" A similar question posed by a certain politician some years ago with gaybo.

rangler1 · 23-08-2016 02:41PM

Willfarman wrote: »

My main disdain is the pure unadulterated arrogangace and greed.

"Try it yourself sometime?" A similar question posed by a certain politician some years ago with gaybo.

And your last 2 posts aren't arrogant......yeah right.
Theres a commitee for every enterprise within IFA so if your agenda isn't been driven, it's probably your own fault.Not my problem anyway

Just after reading your edited post, The national finance commitee ''overlooked'' the high salaries and three out of the eight in that commitee have got back in without a challenge.....farmers just can't be bothered, much easier to leave it to someone else, however bad.

blue5000 · 23-08-2016 04:17PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Checking out males and loreal complex....what are we dealing with here

No rangler I think it's more to do with the slogan 'because you're worth it' . Pat Smith and co obviously think they are.:(

23-08-2016 04:52PM

blue5000 wrote: »

No rangler I think it's more to do with the slogan 'because you're worth it' . Pat Smith and co obviously think they are.:(

It's like people who whinge about glanbia's pay to the top, for a few billion turn over I would say it's quite cheap, maybe its people's expectations that because they can't make money no one else should?

Willfarman · 23-08-2016 05:29PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

It's like people who whinge about glanbia's pay to the top, for a few billion turn over I would say it's quite cheap, maybe its people's expectations that because they can't make money no one else should?

I couldn't care less if others are making money as long .,,,,as it's not off my back!

farmerjj · 23-08-2016 05:49PM

Willfarman wrote: »

I couldn't care less if others are making money as long .,,,,as it's not off my back!

Ha great comeback.

ganmo · 23-08-2016 05:54PM

Willfarman wrote: »

I couldn't care less if others are making money as long .,,,,as it's not off my back!

Where do you buy the stock you finish?

Is the money you make coming off their back?

Willfarman · 23-08-2016 06:04PM

ganmo wrote: »

Where do you buy the stock you finish?

Is the money you make coming off their back?

I go to the Mart and I load 0.15 per cent of the cattle there every week. A voluntary contribution to me from those lazy farmers because they never issued me with instructions not to.

23-08-2016 06:05PM

Willfarman wrote: »

I couldn't care less if others are making money as long .,,,,as it's not off my back!

So who will represent your interest at the next round of cap? Considering beef farms constantly bemoan poor income and how much subs make up, with the type of cuts coming to realign Western Europe with the east and all the enviro requirements.
How well has the last pfft 25 years of shouting how terrible the meat factories are, a new tact is required to go for high end rather than try beat feedlot by working together.
If farmers don't take a proactive approach nothing to their benefit will happen, guess it will give bar stool heroes more to moan about.

Willfarman · 23-08-2016 06:14PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

So who will represent your interest at the next round of cap? Considering beef farms constantly bemoan poor income and how much subs make up, with the type of cuts coming to realign Western Europe with the east and all the enviro requirements.
How well has the last pfft 25 years of shouting how terrible the meat factories are, a new tact is required to go for high end rather than try beat feedlot by working together.
If farmers don't take a proactive approach nothing to their benefit will happen, guess it will give bar stool heroes more to moan about.

I concur wholeheartedly. I would hope for either a completely reformed lean mean ifa or their a a garner of support for the icmsa. I don't know how to post up links here but an agriland article about the impending pat smith ifa high court case dated 10 August is sickening

freedominacup · 23-08-2016 06:17PM

Willfarman wrote: »

I concur wholeheartedly. I would hope for either a completely reformed lean mean ifa or their a a garner of support for the icmsa. I don't know how to post up links here but an agriland article about the impending pat smith ifa high court case dated 10 August is sickening

What does a completely reformed, lean, mean ifa look like?

23-08-2016 06:29PM

Willfarman wrote: »

I concur wholeheartedly. I would hope for either a completely reformed lean mean ifa or their a a garner of support for the icmsa. I don't know how to post up links here but an agriland article about the impending pat smith ifa high court case dated 10 August is sickening

I can't say I seen it but my tAke from what was posted.
The Ifa did all they could to publicly humiliate the man, who they knew is no soft touch of course there is repocusions due to the top end muppets.
What's the point in all the likes of macra's public speaking comps etc if there is not a stream of new blood coming to put pressure on the chairmen of groups to perform. The hill farmers got in a huff formed a group and got results it can happen.

MF290 · 23-08-2016 06:46PM

freedominacup wrote: »

What does a completely reformed, lean, mean ifa look like?

Pay everyone half as much, make them work twice as hard and get them to double their results. All quite simple.... :rolleyes:

Willfarman · 23-08-2016 07:12PM

freedominacup wrote: »

What does a completely reformed, lean, mean ifa look like?

Like it did before they got so good at gathering up money.!! Ironic that when they hadn't a bean they had some political punch and farmer support.

mf240 · 23-08-2016 08:09PM

Hope you found this help full op.:D:D

EIF levy deductions?

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