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  • #1172
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    I know I'm a foreigner so I shouldn't really say anything.... But the cronyism and corruption in Irish sports and politics stuns me. I can't believe it's allowed to go on! Where are the journalists and the public outrage?

    The guy that went after Armstrong, look at your backyard FFS!!

    I don't think that NZ is perfect but Ireland is on par with RSA and Zimbabwe.

    And sorry but Boards.ie worrying about being sued by these thieving, corrupt *****?!! Screw that. Stick 2 fingers up at them and say "Come get some!"

    Ireland is 17th, NZ 4th, SA 61st, and Zimbabwe 150th on the Corruptions Perceptions Index ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index ) so we're not the best but equally we're far from the worst and far from the worst in Europe too.


  • #1173
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,205 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Ireland is 17th, NZ 4th, SA 61st, and Zimbabwe 150th on the Corruptions Perceptions Index ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index ) so we're not the best but equally we're far from the worst and far from the worst in Europe too.

    Yeah "corruption" is the wrong word. Nepotism, cronyism, looking after my cousin or his mate etc. Ireland is shocking for it.


  • #1174
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Speaking of cheating

    Also, only me and Yeah_right care...but bloody hell, the 19 year old Kiwi pole-vaulter equalling her PB and getting bronze. Tear in the eye.


  • #1175
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Speaking of cheating

    Also, only me and Yeah_right care...but bloody hell, the 19 year old Kiwi pole-vaulter equalling her PB and getting bronze. Tear in the eye.

    That article, hilarious stuff!


  • #1176
    Felix Jones is God
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Felix Jones is God


    You'd think it was up there with an Isis attack the way they're going on about it :rolleyes:


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  • #1177
    adelcrowsmel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭adelcrowsmel


    Anyone know what station the Australia V All Blacks is on this morning at 11? I thought it was advertised as being on SS3 but doesn't seem to be now?


  • #1178
    Felix Jones is God
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Felix Jones is God


    adelcrowsmel wrote: »
    Anyone know what station the Australia V All Blacks is on this morning at 11? I thought it was advertised as being on SS3 but doesn't seem to be now?

    Sky sports 5


  • #1179
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Teferi wrote: »
    He's only 24, plenty of time for him to get a medal in Tokyo. He hasn't peaked yet. Some performance though, he should be delighted with his PB's.

    485908768-senbere-teferi-of-ethiopia-celebrates-after-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=X7WJLa88Cweo9HktRLaNXmrw7YbTTfs33cZLkvbh2e56lu74B09XSjI1T4GeW4rMkiUMZplh9YCW4MfT9kwGgQ%3D%3D

    You didn't too bad yourself there, with 5th in the 5000m.

    Apparently you're a LH prop in the winter, so I'm highly suspecting either industrial quantities of steroids pre-season or else amphetamines for breakfast, lunch and dinner once the 15-man code is out of the way.


  • #1180
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Was some fecking brawl last night in the McGregor v Diaz scrap- very exciting


  • #1181
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Was some fecking brawl last night in the McGregor v Diaz scrap- very exciting

    One of the best fights of the year, best fight in the UFC since Lawler/MacDonald

    Hopefully they don't go for it again immediately though, could do with them seperating for a little while. McGregor and Mayweather still seem convinced they're going to fight each other by all accounts! (not that I think they will or should)


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  • #1182
    [Deleted User]
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    One of the best fights of the year, best fight in the UFC since Lawler/MacDonald

    Hopefully they don't go for it again immediately though, could do with them seperating for a little while. McGregor and Mayweather still seem convinced they're going to fight each other by all accounts! (not that I think they will or should)

    McGregor did well to stay on his feet because he took some big hits from Diaz later on. Diaz just has a iron jaw, even getting knocked down he just doesn't daze at all, amazing resilience.


  • #1183
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    The marathon in the Olympics is so boring. It doesn't even seem that impressive after watching those nutters do the 50k walk the other day, or even compared to the triathlons.


  • #1184
    Zzippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    The marathon in the Olympics is so boring. It doesn't even seem that impressive after watching those nutters do the 50k walk the other day, or even compared to the triathlons.

    You set the treadmill to 19-20kph and see how long you can run at that speed for!


  • #1185
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    So Delaney....


  • #1186
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    So Delaney....

    Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.


  • #1187
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    So Delaney....

    Can't wait for reeling in the years in a few years time


  • #1188
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    So Delaney....

    He'll throw a few quid behind the bar and they'll all have a sing song. Be grand.


  • #1189
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    Yeah "corruption" is the wrong word. Nepotism, cronyism, looking after my cousin or his mate etc. Ireland is shocking for it.

    It could well be but....Ireland is a special case. We had been ruled by the British for a long time and then when we got our independence, just under 100 years ago now, the powers that be put the Church in charge and there was still a massive hangover from the war of Independence. That hangover prob continued through to the late 60's or 70's, prob til we joined the EU, or even til the 90's tbh.

    Once a people is governed by a foreign power there's always going to be a lot of cronyism/anti establishment.

    I dunno how many UL graduates are on here but I read Ed Walsh's book recently, he was in charge of setting up the college in the 60's, and it's really interesting to read his views of Ireland at the time. His interactions with official Ireland are frankly appalling and a lot of official Ireland at the time is still based on anti British ideology.

    So as a country we're still only starting to think for the better of the country nowadays, though with the massive populism involved in the media and govt maybe we're not even doing that yet.


  • #1190
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    It could well be but....Ireland is a special case. We had been ruled by the British for a long time and then when we got our independence, just under 100 years ago now, the powers that be put the Church in charge and there was still a massive hangover from the war of Independence. That hangover prob continued through to the late 60's or 70's, prob til we joined the EU, or even til the 90's tbh.

    Once a people is governed by a foreign power there's always going to be a lot of cronyism/anti establishment.

    I dunno how many UL graduates are on here but I read Ed Walsh's book recently, he was in charge of setting up the college in the 60's, and it's really interesting to read his views of Ireland at the time. His interactions with official Ireland are frankly appalling and a lot of official Ireland at the time is still based on anti British ideology.

    So as a country we're still only starting to think for the better of the country nowadays, though with the massive populism involved in the media and govt maybe we're not even doing that yet.

    You're absolutely right. I don't think it's an inherent Irish genetic trait, it's a lot to do with history. Ireland, though, should seriously improve its laws for "white collar" crime...back in the day you were ripping off the British government, so no-one really cared, but that's no longer the case.

    I do think the IRFU will want to make absolutely sure there is not a hint of such carry-on associated with their RWC bid. They are helped by the fact that SA is hardly a beacon of purity in this regard.

    I can honestly say that there is no way a figure such as the currently-in-jail IOC chief would have survived 25 years in NZ. Just wouldn't be tolerated.


  • #1191
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,133 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    in ireland we have a built in mindset of "screw the system"... whether thats tax avoidance, not complying with statutory licenses or even something as simple as robbing pens from the office....

    when we meet the instruction to comply with a regulation our very first question is "whats the likelyhood of getting caught"?
    we are absolutely crap at citizenship.... we begrudge people who seem to have more than us (regardless of how hard they worked for it) and we begrudge those in need as being lazy leeches on the tax payer (while at the same time doing everything possible to renege on our own owed taxes)

    this permeates into political life where feathering your bed is the name of the game. Those who spend their life in politics or sitting on boards of management of charities, sports bodies or councils are invariably corrupt as that is the resultant of the power that goes with those positions... that corruption may be conscious or subconscious, and it may be explicit or implicit, but it is inevitable.

    this should be the widely held view of anyone in a position of power for a long period of time.
    we've seen it sport now with Hickey. We all have our suspicions about DELETED. We've seen it at provincial level with DELETED. We've seen the planning tribunals, the beef tribunal, the morris tribunal, moriarity tribunal etc.....

    the common thread among all of these embarrassments was cronyism and people in positions of power for long periods


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  • #1192
    Zzippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Lads, there has already been a mod warning on thread about making unfounded allegations. NO FURTHER naming of individuals unless you can provide a link to publicly available material confirming guilt, otherwise posts will be deleted and posters infracted.


  • #1193
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Just reading there about how families of Irish Olympians had to buy their tickets for events in Rio from other countries. And this was happening as far back as January/February. The Pro10 guys that were supposed to be the official ticket sellers didn't even have an online sales facility and when people tried to phone them direct they couldn't get through to anyone. One man even tried going to the address listed on their site and apparently there's no office there.

    It sounds like this whole scandal could have been either avoided or discovered a lot earlier if anyone had been paying attention. Or maybe it was.

    http://jrnl.ie/2942132


  • #1194
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Just reading there about how families of Irish Olympians had to buy their tickets for events in Rio from other countries. And this was happening as far back as January/February. The Pro10 guys that were supposed to be the official ticket sellers didn't even have an online sales facility and when people tried to phone them direct they couldn't get through to anyone. One man even tried going to the address listed on their site and apparently there's no office there.

    It sounds like this whole scandal could have been either avoided or discovered a lot earlier if anyone had been paying attention. Or maybe it was.

    http://jrnl.ie/2942132

    This was happening in 2012 as well, the media were notified and they didn't care.

    Unfortunately noone cared about this until it became an international story.


  • #1195
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    This was happening in 2012 as well, the media were notified and they didn't care.

    Unfortunately noone cared about this until it became an international story.

    Yeah, I saw something the other day about the previous ticket sellers not being permitted by the IOC this year. Think it was at the press conference that was happening just after Hickey was arrested but before he was charged. Someone was asking something about Pro10 being a a get around for these other people. Didn't get an answer from the IOC guy about it though.

    That is the problem in Ireland, or one of them, generally we don't care until it's a big scandal and then we're outraged. The papers are full of stories the last few days basically saying that none of what's happened or the people involved would come as a surprise to anyone and yet we've happily left these people in charge of various organisations for years, decades even.


  • #1196
    dregin
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    awec wrote: »
    Any fleadh goers here? Been watching on the telly, seems alright, hit and miss on the acts so far, will maybe head into Ennis tomorrow.
    Was at the fleadh in Cavan a couple of times. Deadly buzz altogether.


  • #1197
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    The Sligo fleadh is some craic


  • #1198
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    So, without anyone going into anything that could get Boards sued, do we actually know where John Dellaney is?


  • #1199
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    So, without anyone going into anything that could get Boards sued, do we actually know where John Dellaney is?

    Ireland? No?


  • #1200
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Surely he is in Poland supporting "the problem child"


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  • #1201
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Surely he is in Poland supporting "the problem child"

    No chance lol
    They are 1-0 up!


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