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mentally ill man stabs people shouting allahu akbar

  • 19-08-2016 02:33PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭


    Jewish rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by 'Muslim attacker who shouted "Allahu Akbar"'

    The attacker, who has been arrested, shouted 'Allahu Akbar' - God is great - as he stabbed the 55-year-old man, Le Journal du Dimanche reported.

    The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues.


    Officers have ruled out a terror motive for the attack and believe the suspect has suffered serious mental health issues.

    Strasbourg is in the north east of France, near the German border, and is a seat of the European Parliament.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html#article-3748782

    Europe seems to have major problems with mentally ill people stabbing people at the moment.


    When are the mental health crowd going to step up and suggest solutions?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Smondie wrote: »
    Jewish rabbi is stabbed in Strasbourg by 'Muslim attacker who shouted "Allahu Akbar"'

    The attacker, who has been arrested, shouted 'Allahu Akbar' - God is great - as he stabbed the 55-year-old man, Le Journal du Dimanche reported.

    The attacker is believed to have a history of mental health issues.


    Officers have ruled out a terror motive for the attack and believe the suspect has suffered serious mental health issues.

    Strasbourg is in the north east of France, near the German border, and is a seat of the European Parliament.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748782/Jewish-rabbi-stabbed-Strasbourg-Muslim-attacker.html#article-3748782

    Europe seems to have major problems with mentally ill people stabbing people at the moment.


    When are the mental health crowd going to step up and suggest solutions

    Such as? :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 334 ✭✭skywanderer


    The only people mentally ill here are the politically correct apologists who will label you as anything to divert attention away from the real issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    Such as? :confused:

    I don't know.

    But if he had known mental health issues, at some stage he was assessed by a professional who should have recognised he was a danger to society and taken action to commit him.

    A lot of the current preprators of these stabbings fit a certain profile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    A couple of friends went to a huge conference which was supposed to discuss, among other things, Islamic extremism. They don't seem to have really gotten anywhere though.
    To their credit, several Muslims I know are at least talking about the issue instead of constantly denying any connection, as some non muslims do.
    These mental illness headlines remind me of the approach the British government took to minimise public panic in WW2, by calling rocket attacks gas main explosions, for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    Funny that , i've battled mental Illness for years , never felt the need to go and murder a few Jews or Infadels or blow up an abortion clinic ... Common thread with thees attacks isn't mental illness its religion , all religion's are poison but Islam is cyanide.

    How anyone believes some medieval paedophile warlord wrote a book of peace is beyond me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Smondie wrote: »
    I don't know.

    But if he had known mental health issues, at some stage he was assessed by a professional who should have recognised he was a danger to society and taken action to commit him.

    A lot of the current preprators of these stabbings fit a certain profile.

    With your knowledge of how to exactly predict human behaviour, you should contact your local mental health services and offer your help. They'll really appreciate it :)


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,244 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    How anyone believes some medieval paedophile warlord wrote a book of peace is beyond me.
    Kill the infidel!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,757 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    How anyone believes some medieval paedophile warlord wrote a book of peace is beyond me.

    Brilliant stuff Walt :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    marcbrophy wrote: »
    Brilliant stuff Walt :D

    Calls it as i sees it :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Funny that , i've battled mental Illness for years , never felt the need to go and murder a few Jews or Infadels or blow up an abortion clinic ... Common thread with thees attacks isn't mental illness its religion , all religion's are poison but Islam is cyanide.

    How anyone believes some medieval paedophile warlord wrote a book of peace is beyond me.
    Funnily enough not all mental issues have the same effects. Unless you had the same mental illness as this guy.

    Mental illness is an extremely broad term.

    People with mental illnesses like this guy has could have just as easily been turned into a conspiracy theorist that things everyone else must die because we're lizard people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Smondie wrote: »
    I don't know.

    But if he had known mental health issues, at some stage he was assessed by a professional who should have recognised he was a danger to society and taken action to commit him.

    A lot of the current preprators of these stabbings fit a certain profile.


    I have mental health issues

    I have been assessed by a professional

    Last thing I stabbed was a chicken fillet to ensure it was cooked right through.

    Where does it say he showed violent tendencies before? How would the "mental health crowd" know he was going to do something like this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    I have mental health issues

    I have been assessed by a professional

    Last thing I stabbed was a chicken fillet to ensure it was cooked right through.

    Where does it say he showed violent tendencies before? How would the "mental health crowd" know he was going to do something like this?

    The suspect, said to be mentally ill, is believed to be known to police in relation to another attack on a Jewish victim in 2010.

    Mr Samama said the man had recently been held in a psychiatric hospital and that Mr Levy’s family were demanding to know why he was released.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/strasbourg-rabbi-jewish-stabbing-france-latest-attacker-knife-allahu-akbar-terrorism-a7198991.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Funnily enough not all mental issues have the same effects. Unless you had the same mental illness as this guy.

    Mental illness is an extremely broad term.

    People with mental illnesses like this guy has could have just as easily been turned into a conspiracy theorist that things everyone else must die because we're lizard people.

    But odd just like all the others he wasnt was he , he was brainwashed by religion , a relgion that champions martrys and promises 72 virgins in the "afterlife" if you take out a few infadels on the way out.

    How is this crap allowed to be spewed in 2016 , you don't have to have a mental illness to be brain washed and that's what thees young men are. For the most part they are from underprivileged dysfunctional religiously strict homes or cultures where a book of hate , discrimination inequality and war is drilled into from the time their kids.

    so by the time they shout "Allah Akbar" at 19 or 20 or whatever while blowing up a bunch of people , or shooting some kids or mowing down family's with a truck they are totally convinced they are doing gods work and will be rewarded in heaven , that's not mental illness that's conditioning and sticking our head in the sand and saying they were "mental" wont fix the situation

    where those parents who willingly gave their daughters to the Magdalene nuns mentally ill too, or were they brainwashed , how about the born agains bombing abortion clinics. These young Muslims are not born sick they are made sick by a sick religion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    The only people mentally ill here are the politically correct apologists who will label you as anything to divert attention away from the real issue.

    so basically, people who are of your imagination, or, people who don't simply take whatever you spout as fact without checking it out?
    Smondie wrote: »
    I don't know.

    But if he had known mental health issues, at some stage he was assessed by a professional who should have recognised he was a danger to society and taken action to commit him.

    A lot of the current preprators of these stabbings fit a certain profile.

    what profile.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oh fun.

    Here we go again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    The key word here is "Muslim" not "mental health"...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭Chromosphere


    Taking the stigma off a fanatical group within a particular religion and placing it onto the mentally ill is very unfair.

    You could describe *all* terrorists as mentally ill as it's fairly abnormal to go out and attack people at random, but the motivations and brainwashing behind it would imply they're possibly more brain-washed and fanatical than mentally ill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Smondie wrote: »
    The suspect, said to be mentally ill, is believed to be known to police in relation to another attack on a Jewish victim in 2010.

    Mr Samama said the man had recently been held in a psychiatric hospital and that Mr Levy’s family were demanding to know why he was released.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/strasbourg-rabbi-jewish-stabbing-france-latest-attacker-knife-allahu-akbar-terrorism-a7198991.html

    And that info was not in the op so how was anyone to know he had done something before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Funny that , i've battled mental Illness for years , never felt the need to go and murder a few Jews or Infadels or blow up an abortion clinic ... Common thread with thees attacks isn't mental illness its religion , all religion's are poison but Islam is cyanide.

    How anyone believes some medieval paedophile warlord wrote a book of peace is beyond me.

    It's kinda handy that everyone's mental illness is exactly like yours.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Grayson wrote: »
    It's kinda handy that everyone's mental illness is exactly like yours.

    Shuush. There's no point in trying to disagree or offer another opinion. You'll be labeled as an apologist. Back away now. It's easier.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    Grayson wrote: »
    It's kinda handy that everyone's mental illness is exactly like yours.

    Except their not mentally ill their brainwashed there's a distinct diffrence and its beyond offensive to people with genuine mental healt issues that its ok to just say they are all mentally ill but mention the other common factor i.e their all brainwashed by an oppressive repressive totalitarian religion that glorify's martyrdom and dying for god and your just a narrow minded racist bigott.

    The apologists are as big a threat as the hate preachers Hitler may have stated WW2 but Nevill Chamberlain allowed him remember that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    so basically what you are saying is the ....
    Christians who murder people because they suffer from mental illness are mentally ill people who murder people
    Muslims who murder people because they suffer from mental illness are terrorists who clearly provide further proof that all Muslims are terrorists and the anyone who disagrees is a liberal, left wing apologist....

    There really are too many arseholes in the world...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Taking the stigma off a fanatical group within a particular religion and placing it onto the mentally ill is very unfair.

    You could describe *all* terrorists as mentally ill as it's fairly abnormal to go out and attack people at random, but the motivations and brainwashing behind it would imply they're possibly more brain-washed and fanatical than mentally ill.
    I'm no fan of religion, but this is a big stretch. You're all making huge assumptions about this man based on a few sentences.

    Maybe he has been brainwashed, but it seems just as likely he's got a mental illnesses that makes him obsessive and violent. They pick up on things that confirm the notions in their own head. Not so long ago in America there was a spate of mentally ill people attacking others as if they were zombies, or them thinking they were zombies themselves. Should we hold the walking dead responsible for those attacks? Unless you can prove this person has anything but a passing understanding of Islam, has a mental illness that doesn't include paranoid schizophrenia, or another serious mental illness that would trump any religious teachings they received your in no position to pass any kind of judgement.

    Yeah, religious dogma can really mess with some peoples heads, but the majority of people can practice religion and not go out killing people, even the vast majority of Muslims just live normal lives and never consider killing someone for any religious reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    so basically what you are saying is the ....
    Christians who murder people because they suffer from mental illness are mentally ill people who murder people
    Muslims who murder people because they suffer from mental illness are terrorists who clearly provide further proof that all Muslims are terrorists and the anyone who disagrees is a liberal, left wing apologist....

    There really are too many arseholes in the world...

    NO what im saying is the catholics who coverd up abuse , gave their kids to magdalen laundries , blow up abortion clinics etc are no better then the muslims who commit terrorist attacks, stone rape victims , commit honor killings etc.

    Neither are mentaly ill both are brainwashed , the diffrence is ISLAM is a book of war it glorifys death , 72 virgins in heaven if you martyr yourself in Jihad against infadels and kaffirs ... keep spouting that **** at desperate young men and you will condition them to commit attrocious acts but thats not mental illness , thats the toxic affect of religion.

    Just like you keep telling poor uneducated irish people that girls who get pregnant are going to hell and shame the family they will hand over their daughters to torture and slavery willingly.

    Im not Anti muslim , i'm an athiest open your eyes thess people are not mentaly ill they are brainweashed and conditioned there is a root cause in this case its ISLAM


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NO what im saying is the catholics who coverd up abuse , gave their kids to magdalen laundries , blow up abortion clinics etc are no better then the muslims who commit terrorist attacks, stone rape victims , commit honor killings etc.

    Neither are mentaly ill both are brainwashed , the diffrence is ISLAM is a book of war it glorifys death , 72 virgins in heaven if you martyr yourself in Jihad against infadels and kaffirs ... keep spouting that **** at desperate young men and you will condition them to commit attrocious acts but thats not mental illness , thats the toxic affect of religion.

    Just like you keep telling poor uneducated irish people that girls who get pregnant are going to hell and shame the family they will hand over their daughters to torture and slavery willingly.

    Im not Anti muslim , i'm an athiest open your eyes thess people are not mentaly ill they are brainweashed and conditioned there is a root cause in this case its ISLAM

    Have you ever read the Bible? It's kind of, er, messed up. Saying that a man who sleeps with another man should be stoned to death. And lots of other stuff.

    I love how you preach hate against the Muslim religion and then finish up by saying, "I'm not Anti Muslim".

    Is that the new, "I'm not racist, but..."?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Except their not mentally ill their brainwashed there's a distinct diffrence and its beyond offensive to people with genuine mental healt issues that its ok to just say they are all mentally ill but mention the other common factor i.e their all brainwashed by an oppressive repressive totalitarian religion that glorify's martyrdom and dying for god and your just a narrow minded racist bigott.

    The apologists are as big a threat as the hate preachers Hitler may have stated WW2 but Nevill Chamberlain allowed him remember that.

    It's great to know that a muslim cannot be mentally ill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Sounds like he/she is anti religionous brainwashing..but back away now Walter 'cause your words are already being twisted and the racism slur isn't far behind..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    When people say he is mentally ill, they really mean he is a devout Muslim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Neither are mentaly ill both are brainwashed , the diffrence is ISLAM is a book of war it glorifys death , 72 virgins in heaven if you martyr yourself in Jihad against infadels and kaffirs ... keep spouting that **** at desperate young men and you will condition them to commit attrocious acts but thats not mental illness , thats the toxic affect of religion.
    The romans would have said the same thing about Christians, a loads of crackpots that would rather get eaten by lions than just respect that the empire has lots of religions. An extremely intolerant bunch of fundamentalists that idolise a brutal crucifixion and are actively trying to ape his martyrdom.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    It's a trap!!


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