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Danny Healy Rae - Noah's Ark

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  • #32
    hairyslug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,561 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    my chakras are emitting the wrong colour.

    You had a dodgy takeaway too last night, my "chakra" is in bits


  • #33
    Pickpocket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    Suckler wrote: »
    They are living proof of all that is wrong in Irish politics.

    Wrong.

    The Healy-Rae's of Irish politics are few and far between. It might seem like the Dail is full of gombeens but the people in control are invariably highly-educated individuals.

    To suggest that caricatures like Danny Healy-Rae are representative of the fundamental failures of Irish politics is pathological stupidity.


  • #34
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The man is a national embarrassment. How he got elected will forever be beyond me.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #35
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    The media will keep this fool relevant because he'll bring in the clicks and people to see what other outrageous shíte he'll come out with.


  • #36
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Wigglepuppy wrote: »
    Climate change is well researched and documented. I'm just wondering what those in denial could offer to counter it.

    Who's denying climate change? The climate is always changing and always will change.


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  • #37
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seamus wrote: »
    Jaysus, I'd say Michael is fair regretting getting his brother into the Dail now.

    I'd say Mike was not a fan of it from the off.

    People outside South Kerry do not seem to understand that Mike and Danny are chalk and cheese, and people from Kilgarvan will say there is little love between them.


  • #38
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    Wrong.

    The Healy-Rae's of Irish politics are few and far between. It might seem like the Dail is full of gombeens but the people in control are invariably highly-educated individuals.

    Enda?

    Or are you referring to the puppet master, Phil Hogan?


  • #39
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,311 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    The man is a national embarrassment. How he got elected will forever be beyond me.

    What's all this latest notion that we should as a nation be 'embarressd'?
    They're banging on all week in the media about being embarressed about a boxer testing positive, some tout selling tickets, and Hickey being arrested.
    I'm not embarressed by it I'm glad they were caught. We are a small nation and other countries really could'nt care less. I'd don't hear the same feelings of embarressment when bankers are proven to have committed fraud and put many many people in misery. If anything we need more straight talkers like healy rae.


  • #40
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    Noah's Ark is fantastical story. But at least there's some elements that are grounded in reality. There are floods in real life. People do build boats. And at some point in history someone surely put animals on their boat to survive extremely bad weather, even if it was only a couple of dogs and a horse.

    Personally, I'm more concerned about people that believe we're all going to a huge Electric Picnic in the sky when we're dead, or those that believe my chakras are emitting the wrong colour.

    It's a highly embellished account of some localised event that may have happened in the remote past, but the Bible blows it out of all proportion to make a morality tale out of it. Problem is when people take what is essentially a fable quite literally.


  • #41
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    Scary thing is, his followers/voters probably believe that stuff as well! :eek:


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  • #42
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    jimmy blevins wrote: »
    It's the people that voted for two of them that need checking.

    This.

    It's the quintessential basis for citizens having to earn the right to vote, rather then it being an entitlement.


  • #43
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Wigglepuppy wrote: »
    Climate change is well researched and documented. I'm just wondering what those in denial could offer to counter it.

    That is the problem all round. There simply is no basis to argue against the science on it.

    However, there are many people, plenty of people, who simply don't give a ****, and don't believe it should be prioritised in a country like Ireland. I'm one of them. I don't need to get into scientific debates, because there is no arguement.

    However there is tremendous debate to be had about the merits and social impacts of how we as a small nation manage our emissions, and more importantly, have citizens pay for it, when our footprint is entirely irrelevant in the global scheme of things.

    Anyone that visits America, China or Russia, can only laugh when you hear of people who wash out food jars here for the green bin.

    I'm totally against the consistent costs of managing climate change in our country, but the arguments I put forward are related to the costs and prioritisation of climate change, when simply there are much more immediate issues and concerns.

    The reason I say this, is because when I come across people with the same view, they tend to easily slip into trying to debate the science which is nonsense. Needs more people to just be upfront saying they don't simply care.

    And there is nothing stupid or idiotic about it. The stupidity is us, the taxpayer, paying for various climate change measures, that is totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. It's one of the main reasons I was delighted the Green Party got smashed and I hope to never see them again. Their outragous policy relating to car tax, has created a ridiculous situation in the Motor industry here.


  • #44
    FalconGirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    The election of DHR really doesn't reflect well on the people of Kerry.

    Just Saying...


  • #45
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    The election of DHR really doesn't reflect well on the people of Kerry.

    Just Saying...

    I somehow doubt the HR fanbase cares very much what the rest of the country thinks about them.


  • #46
    Trent Houseboat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Trent Houseboat


    realdanbreen wrote:
    Yeah, we really should repalce them with guys in fancy suits and D4 accents, financial advisor types perhaps, or maybe we could persuade some retired banker to run for office.
    You've drawn a lovely false dichotomy there, but as long as you're sticking it to them lot in Dublin who cares? It's us against them right?

    What I find curious about the whole thing is that from what I remember in school, catholic teaching of the ark story wasn't literal. Which would lead me to believe that Dinny might be some sort of born again evangelical. Not really sure how good that would be for re-election in Kerry.


  • #47
    FalconGirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    conorhal wrote: »
    Are they now? They've never held ministerial office but somehow represent all the ills of Irish politics when showers of feckers have passed through the dail leaving this country in ruins and none of them were called Healy-Rae. At least there are some people in their constituency that can say the Healy-Rae did them some good and represented the people that elected them, the problem as I see it are the politicians that did the opposite and betrayed the people that elected them.

    I'd take the Healy-Rae's in charge over Kenny and Martin any day of the week.

    This is exactly what's wrong with Irish politics. When your elected to the Dail you represent the national interests and not just the local interests. The Healy Reas have always been about squeezing a few bob for Kerry. They couldn't give a fiddlers about the national interest. Didn't hear JHR screaming when the economy was going down the ****ter.


  • #48
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    This is exactly what's wrong with Irish politics. When your elected to the Dail you represent the national interests and not just the local interests. The Healy Reas have always been about squeezing a few bob for Kerry. They couldn't give a fiddlers about the national interest. Didn't hear JHR screaming when the economy was going down the ****ter.

    The Irish times editorial line again which only publishes stories that follow that narrative. Which simply isn't true. Danny Healy Rae cares more about Ireland then Enda does that's for sure. If you didn't hear him say anything about the state of the national economy it's becaue the IT won't publish it and you won't listen to it.


  • #49
    Wigglepuppy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    conorhal wrote: »
    The Irish times editorial line again which only publishes stories that follow that narrative. Which simply isn't true. Danny Healy Rae cares more about Ireland then Enda does that's for sure. If you didn't hear him say anything about the state of the national economy it's becaue the IT won't publish it and you won't listen to it.
    I can't see how only a local focus is in the national interest though? It's not just the Healy Raes of course. Pee Flynn and Lowry et al too.

    You refer to the Irish Times narrative, but equally, Enda doesn't care much about the country - that's the journal.ie narrative.


  • #50
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Wigglepuppy wrote: »
    I can't see how only a local focus is in the national interest though? It's not just the Healy Raes of course. Pee Flynn and Lowry et al too.

    I'd imagine the Healy Raes have plenty of opinions about national issues, sure doesn't everybody? I've come around to 'parochialism' though. All politics is local at the end of the day, you represent your local nationally, ,that's their job and the only politicians doing anything for people seem to be independents. A lot of politicians pretend to have a 'national focus' but used that to do serious harm to ordinary people in the guise of what is 'good for the nation', when they really mean good for Merkel or the tiny unelected cadre of special interests that they really represent.


  • #51
    Arsemageddon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    TheDoc wrote: »
    That is the problem all round. There simply is no basis to argue against the science on it.

    However, there are many people, plenty of people, who simply don't give a ****, and don't believe it should be prioritised in a country like Ireland. I'm one of them. I don't need to get into scientific debates, because there is no arguement.

    However there is tremendous debate to be had about the merits and social impacts of how we as a small nation manage our emissions, and more importantly, have citizens pay for it, when our footprint is entirely irrelevant in the global scheme of things.

    Anyone that visits America, China or Russia, can only laugh when you hear of people who wash out food jars here for the green bin.

    I'm totally against the consistent costs of managing climate change in our country, but the arguments I put forward are related to the costs and prioritisation of climate change, when simply there are much more immediate issues and concerns.

    The reason I say this, is because when I come across people with the same view, they tend to easily slip into trying to debate the science which is nonsense. Needs more people to just be upfront saying they don't simply care.

    And there is nothing stupid or idiotic about it. The stupidity is us, the taxpayer, paying for various climate change measures, that is totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. It's one of the main reasons I was delighted the Green Party got smashed and I hope to never see them again. Their outragous policy relating to car tax, has created a ridiculous situation in the Motor industry here.

    So you know that climate change is real yet you don't think we should try to do anything about it?

    If anything that's worse than Danny Healy Rae.


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  • #52
    buried
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    Irish Times editorial office yesterday - "OH no, a member of the money racket establishment has brought bad PR to the rest of the money racket by getting his ar$e arrested in Rio! Quick chaps dig up a crazy Healy Rae quote to help deflect this utter horribleness"

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • #53
    Arsemageddon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    buried wrote: »
    Irish Times editorial office yesterday - "OH no, a member of the money racket establishment has brought bad PR to the rest of the money racket by getting his ar$e arrested in Rio! Quick chaps dig up a crazy Healy Rae quote to help deflect this utter horribleness"

    There is a specific forum for conspiracy theories.


  • #54
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Arsemageddon wrote: »
    So you know that climate change is real yet you don't think we should try to do anything about it?

    If anything that's worse than Danny Healy Rae.

    Yeah we need more wind turbines and hybrid suvs.


  • #55
    Arsemageddon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Yeah we need more wind turbines and hybrid suvs.

    Ooooh sarcasm!

    What we probably need is to switch to nuclear power rather than burning peat, have tighter emission regulations on cars, stop building on flood plains and so forth.

    Can you provide any evidence for why you don't believe in climate change?


  • #56
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Arsemageddon wrote: »
    Ooooh sarcasm!

    What we probably need is to switch to nuclear power rather than burning peat, have tighter emission regulations on cars, stop building on flood plains and so forth.

    Can you provide any evidence for why you don't believe in climate change?
    Jumping to conclusions!

    Where did I say that I didn't believe in climate change?


  • #57
    Arsemageddon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Jumping to conclusions!

    Where did I say that I didn't believe in climate change?

    You said you don't believe in man made climate change in post #16
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100715698&postcount=16

    Without trying to split hairs and all that can you provide evidence that the present rapid change in Earth's climate is not the cause of human activity despite all of the evidence to the contrary?


  • #58
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    The election of DHR really doesn't reflect well on the people of Kerry.

    Just Saying...

    I think the election of Martin Ferris, given his friendship with people like Pearse McAuley, is what should really depress people.

    If he heard of the Ark, he might wonder how many guns it would hold...


  • #59
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,311 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Trent Houseboat wrote: »
    You've drawn a lovely false dichotomy there, but as long as you're sticking it to them lot in Dublin who cares? It's us against them right?

    .

    Correct.


  • #60
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    What's all this latest notion that we should as a nation be 'embarressd'?
    They're banging on all week in the media about being embarressed about a boxer testing positive, some tout selling tickets, and Hickey being arrested.
    I'm not embarressed by it I'm glad they were caught. We are a small nation and other countries really could'nt care less. I'd don't hear the same feelings of embarressment when bankers are proven to have committed fraud and put many many people in misery. If anything we need more straight talkers like healy rae.

    A man is elected who believes that an old book is superior to modern science and quotes an absurd fantasy from said book as evidence. If this isn't embarassing then I don't know what is.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #61
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    What's so outrageous about their policy relating to car tax? We're far too obsessed with cars in this country. I see no harm in implementing measures to cut down on unnecessary numbers of unnecessarily powerful cars. You don't need a 2 litre BMW if all you're doing is driving a mile or 2 in Dublin every day.

    Firstly, I agree 100% with you, but just to add, although I don't think most people need a 2l engine, have you seen the size of american cars. They're stupidly big.

    As for the impact on Ireland from climate change, here's an interactive map where you can see how sea level alone would affect Ireland.

    http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/


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