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Dublin Marathon 2016 - Mentored Novices Thread
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Hi Fbjm, how did you register? When I entered I only got an e-ticket, saying that "Race numbers (race pack) will be available for collection at the SSE Airtricity Dublin Marathon EXPO in the Main Hall of the R.D.S on Friday 28th October from 12pm-7pm or Saturday 29th October from 9am-7pm."
...and to sign and bring this ticket with me for the registration. I took it that registration happens when I go to collect my race pack... did I misunderstand something?
No I just meant I'd booked my place and received my race number! No worries
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Really enjoyed the meet-up run this morning, lovely to meet everyone and put faces to names, a lovely sunny morning and we spotted TFGR too
It was really nice to meet everyone and the chat made the miles fly by . Thanks to yourself and Nop for organising and pacing this morning I really enjoyed it.0 -
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Thank you nop98 and firedance for organising this morning's LSR meet up and pacing duties Great to meet everyone and definitely the miles/kms seemed to fly by. Thank you Wubble Wubble for pacing our 2nd lap
Yeah, really enjoyed it this morning, the miles seemed to fly by. It was great to meet everyone, hopefully see you next week at the FD 10m.The Muppet wrote: »It was really nice to meet everyone and the chat made the miles fly by . Thanks to yourself and Nop for organising and pacing this morning I really enjoyed it.Really enjoyed the meet-up run this morning, lovely to meet everyone and put faces to names, a lovely sunny morning and we spotted TFGR too
+1 - very nice to see some very solid running. I hope the second loop was enjoyable as the first - and The Black Oil, I hope you found your way back for the 12M. Let's do it again sometime in September.
Special word of thanks to Firedance and Bungy Girl for coming out for some mileage, too - much appreciated.This Fat Girl Runs wrote: »Looking fabulous out there, guys! I was hoping I'd run into you Highlight of my run!
Looking good there TFGR, some solid mileage being clocked up. Nice to see you!0 -
So following P&D 55 plan. Next Saturday I should be doing my first 20 miler but will be running in a local 10k. 10ks don't come along too often and we have a bit of history so will be racing it, yet again trying to break 40 minutes.
So what would be the best option (bar sticking to the plan and running 20 miles easy!!)
1. 2 Mile warm-up, 10k race, long run after to get me to 16-17 miles total.
2. 10k race on Saturday, 17-18 miles on Sunday.
3. Move the 20 miles to Wednesday and race away on Saturday.
I'm leaning towards option 1 as it means least deviation from the normal routine.
Hi tipping - hope ye don't mind me jumping in! - your post struck a chord, it reminded me of my marathon-clubmates. Each year, during marathon training, they do the Lakes 10k on a Saturday and follow it up with a 16 mile run on the Sunday.
If it was a 10 mile race or a HM you could get away with doing a long warm up, race the 10 miles or HM and do a couple of miles to finish off but trust me, you won't feel like doing any more than 3-4 miles after racing 10k, especially if it's a serious sub 40 attempt!
Good luck with whatever you do the 10k Sat/16 miles Sun 0 -
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So following P&D 55 plan. Next Saturday I should be doing my first 20 miler but will be running in a local 10k. 10ks don't come along too often and we have a bit of history so will be racing it, yet again trying to break 40 minutes.
So what would be the best option (bar sticking to the plan and running 20 miles easy!!)
1. 2 Mile warm-up, 10k race, long run after to get me to 16-17 miles total.
2. 10k race on Saturday, 17-18 miles on Sunday.
3. Move the 20 miles to Wednesday and race away on Saturday.
I'm leaning towards option 1 as it means least deviation from the normal routine.
Option 1. sounds like a recipe for an injury or exhaustion, an all out 10k is a decent enough workout on its own.
Option 2. is along the lines of what's in the training plans in P&D Advanced Marathoning - an all-out tune-up race with a long run the next day. Note the name of the book though: "Advanced Marathoning"
Option 3. means you probably wouldn't be recovered sufficiently for your long run the following weekend.
Of the options you presented, I'd go for number 2.
However I'd go with:
Option 4. Do the race instead of an LSR. Recover fully from the race with some easy running for a few days afterwards. Do a long run next weekend as normal.
(This is exactly what I did a few weeks ago after the Fingal 10k).0 -
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Hi tipping - hope ye don't mind me jumping in! - your post struck a chord, it reminded me of my marathon-clubmates. Each year, during marathon training, they do the Lakes 10k on a Saturday and follow it up with a 16 mile run on the Sunday.
If it was a 10 mile race or a HM you could get away with doing a long warm up, race the 10 miles or HM and do a couple of miles to finish off but trust me, you won't feel like doing any more than 3-4 miles after racing 10k, especially if it's a serious sub 40 attempt!
Good luck with whatever you do the 10k Sat/16 miles Sun
Sound advice as always. Gotta get working on the brownie points now for the the week to get away with that though.0 -
Option 1. sounds like a recipe for an injury or exhaustion, an all out 10k is a decent enough workout on its own.
Option 2. is along the lines of what's in the training plans in the P&D Advanced Marathoning has - an all-out tune-up race with a long run the next day. Note the name of the book though: "Advanced Marathoning"
Option 3. means you probably wouldn't be recovered sufficiently for your long run the following weekend.
Of the options you presented, I'd go for number 2.
However I'd go with:
Option 4. Do the race instead of an LSR. Recover fully from the race with some easy running for a few days afterwards. Do a long run next weekend as normal.
(This is exactly what I did a few weeks ago after the Fingal 10k).
Fair point too, something else to think about.
Settling towards option 4, race the 10k, then either do the lsr on Sunday if legs are up to it and happy wife/kids, else skip the lsr and recover. All assuming I don't get the keys to the new house next week and have to move of course😀0 -
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Sound advice as always. Gotta get working on the brownie points now for the the week to get away with that though.
D'oh, didn't see dubgal's reply, I think we were writing at the same time
The bonus part of my plan is that a long run the day after epic post-10k-PB beers is no fun :pac: 0 -
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Thu 11/8 - 4 easy miles @8:45 approx. Much the same as Tuesday, except I ran the loop clockwise for a change.
Fri 12/8 - Rest. I did however nip out to a Lidl near work at lunchtime to pick up a gel pack. No foam rollers though.
Sat 13/8 - 14 mile LSR - Boards Meet, Phoenix Park
I wasn't really sure how this would go. I had no idea what any of the other novices looked like, and AFAIK it was the same all round for those who could make it to PP. I arrived earlyish at the designated meeting point, and having finished putting on my suncream, got out of the car to see two guys and a girl along the grass verge. Each was standing beside their respective cars looking anxious, as if worried that their prospective dates might not show up
I'm not sure if I said the exact code as given by FD, but I got a favourable response from the aforementioned girl, who turned out to be aceygray; the lads being The Black Oil and kin9pin. Shortly afterwards a tall guy in a cap got out of his car across the road, and his female sidekick walked up to meet him; of course they were nop98 and Firedance.
Having gone through the intros after some more novices (The Muppet, paddydriver, FITZA) arrived, it was time for us to split off into our two groups. I was with the 10 minute group, led by nop98, along with Bungy Girl, fresh from her latest track exploits. aceygray, kin9pin and FITZA completed our group on the opening stint. Our lap largely covered the first 6 miles of the FD 10 Mile, with a trip in and out of the Furry Glen included. The miles flew past, with everyone contributing to the chat, and we also encountered TFGR near the Cabra Gate.
Having got through the first 7 mile loop easily, nop98 and BG left us, as we took a very short break before the remaining four of us continued on the second loop. I found the pace and the mileage no problem at all, and having good company made it much easier anyway. 14 miles in the bag at the end of it, and of course it was great to put some faces and real names to Boards names. Lovely to meet you all, and thanks to nop98 and Firedance for organising. FWIW, I think I deserved the marshmallow hot chocolate and Krispie cake in Farmleigh afterwards
Sun 14/8 - 3 miles @8:57 average.
An easy two laps of the local parkrun course, with the third mile consisting of running from and to the house.
34 miles for the week; it feels great to be back on track after last week's LSR cancellation, especially with the 10 mile looming large on the horizon.
11 weeks to go!0 -
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