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Dublin Marathon 2016 - Mentored Novices Thread

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  • #2612
    donglen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭donglen


    adrian522 wrote: »
    No need to drop out of the thread because you are doing a different marathon surely?

    Which ones were you considering?

    No, not out of the thread, there's still great advice to pick up on here.

    Alternatives, depending on life and budget, Frankfurt on the same day, Barca a couple of weeks beforehand, San Sebastián in November, Clonakilty early December.
    For now, I'm sitting in the sunshine having a few beers, I had a 4 miler pencilled in but have given myself the night off......the rest of the can't do that though!


  • #2613
    scotindublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭scotindublin


    I am not going to be able to make the LSR meet up on Saturday morning....hopefully it goes well.

    Maybe get the chance to put some faces to names at the FD 10 mile.


  • #2614
    nop98
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    kin9pin wrote: »
    Brings me nicely to the FD 10m (and then DCHM). What should we be doing in these races? Run at PMP, easy, half and half, or go for a PB?

    Hi kin9pin - you have permission to go for this run all out. The training plans have taken these races into account and they are excellent opportunities to try out your race-day prep routine, running in a crowd, running with a pacer (HM only), drafting race-reports, etc.

    The boards plan is reducing its mileage in the week leading up to the FD10 and HHN1 drops one of the three mid-weeks runs altogether.

    That said - racing it is not a requirement. Not all of us ran both races last year for scheduling and geographic reasons. In that case, find a suitable replacement (e.g. a proper long run or a 10M solo at PMP effort or better). Also, if you feel you'd be better served at this stage in your training program by a longer, slower run, then by all means, go ahead. You can also decide to run the race at PMP or PHMP if that feels better.


  • #2615
    kin9pin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kin9pin


    nop98 wrote: »
    Hi kin9pin - you have permission to go for this run all out.

    Thanks, just what I wanted to hear :) . It is my first ever official 10m race so I'm guaranteed a PB, but I'd like to give it a good go.

    See you on Saturday. I'll be wearing a fetching green top and almost matching runners :)


  • #2616
    tailgunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭tailgunner


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Hi,

    What plan are you following? Could you post it up?
    Don't forget that with a 2 mile warm up + 2 Mile cool down will bring you to over 17 for the day and that is pretty close to most long runs anyway.

    Cheers, I'm on week 16 of the BAA Level 2 plan.


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  • #2617
    Pomplamousse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Pomplamousse


    I think this marathon training is slowly killing me. I've ANOTHER throat infection, I may have cried when the doctor told me today that I mightn't be able for my LSR this Saturday:o:o
    I'll see how I'm feeling tomorrow evening but may have to take a rain check on the LSR meetup in Phoenix park this Saturday :(


  • #2618
    Extrasupervery
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Extrasupervery


    Pomplamousse I hope you feel better! Take some time off and take care of yourself, let your body catch up on itself. It's a lot of pressure, not just on your body but on your mind when you're planning it all out and have FOMO with regards to important runs. It's still early days.


  • #2619
    Pomplamousse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Pomplamousse


    Thanks for your wise words Extrasupervery:) It's really frustrating but I definitely won't run again until I'm feeling 100% ready. Last time the antibiotics kicked in really quickly so fingers crossed my recovery is as quick this time round.


  • #2620
    jake1970
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭jake1970


    tailgunner wrote: »
    Random question. I'm signed up for a half marathon this weekend, which I was planning on doing instead of the 14 mile long run on my plan, but I can't make the race now.

    There's another half marathon I could do the following weekend, which would still be 5 weeks out for me, so I'd be looking to race it fairly hard if I were to sign up.

    The thing is, I'd have to sacrifice a 20 mile long run that weekend, and assuming I took a recovery week after the race, that would leave me with only one week of normal training before the taper.

    That sounds too disruptive to me, so I've decided to carry on with the plan as is, and not do any racing. Is that the right decision?

    For reference, I did one 20 mile run last Saturday and will do another one 3 weeks out from Berlin, regardless of the half marathon. It's just a question of whether a third 20 mile run would serve me better.

    Yeah stick with the plan. If you race the half not only do you miss out on the 20 mile run but you will also go off plan due to the recovery after. Remember keep the main thing the main thing:)


  • #2621
    Antwerp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭Antwerp


    nop98 wrote: »
    Hey all - a reminder of the LSR meet-up in Phoenix Park next week

    Rumour has it we might get some company from other boardsies, too. Can you please let me know if you won't be able to make it, so we won't wait around too long. Antwerp and scotindublin - you're down as tentative, please let me know.

    Hey NOP98, apologies only logging on now as been very busy week, plus have been feeling off so only got my first run (5m) of the week done today. Anyway, unfortunately I won't make PP this Sat, but I will get my LSR done Nice and early Sat, Marlay Pk will have to do me :)

    Now just trying to catch up on all the posts and get some shut eye before 11pm!!


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  • #2622
    adrian522
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    tailgunner wrote: »
    Cheers, I'm on week 16 of the BAA Level 2 plan.

    Which half are you looking at?

    I'd drop the session on the Friday, run the half on the weekend, drop the session the following Tuesday and then back on track as per the plan. You should be ok to do a long run by the following weekend.


  • #2623
    tailgunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭tailgunner


    Bit of a random one in England - Kimbolton Castle. Only looking at this one as it's within reasonable driving distance from me.

    I'll have a think about it over the weekend anyway, cheers.


  • #2624
    Szilvike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 ✭Szilvike


    Thank you for all your kind messages last week. I've been reading you since, with an aching heart :o

    After one week of no running, only strengthening exercises, went back to the physio today. I'm pain free but he doesn't want me jump back to the plan, and it looks like the boards plan is out of consideration from now on, even if I'll be fine I'll continue with HHN1. Basically he says my body couldn't adapt as quick as the plan "grows" so if I went back now I'd get an other injury again.

    I've to do loads of walking now, and light 1min jog-1min walk sessions plus harder exercises. He's not too happy with me doing the FD10 next Saturday but I promised I'd be really slow, careful and if there's pain I'd stop.

    So that's the situation now :( I feel pretty sad and frustrated, and not too sure anymore if I'll be able to make it to the marathon. But there's still some hope left :)


  • #2625
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    Hey folks, can we get a roll call for the morning? I think I've taken out everyone that can't make it (next time hopefully :) )

    Name|Planned Pace|Distance required
    aceygray|9.30 - 10 min/mile|14 miles
    kin9pin|10:00-11:00|14 miles
    nop98|9:30 - 10|8ish
    FITZA|10.05+|14m
    A Neurotic|10:30 - 11|12 - 14
    Firedance|10:30 to 11:30|6-8
    The Muppet|11 to 12 |any
    The Black Oil|11|12 miles
    paddydriver|Sociable Pace|14 miles


  • #2626
    FITZA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭FITZA


    Firedance wrote: »
    Hey folks, can we get a roll call for the morning? I think I've taken out everyone that can't make it (next time hopefully :) )

    Name|Planned Pace|Distance required
    aceygray|9.30 - 10 min/mile|14 miles
    kin9pin|10:00-11:00|14 miles
    nop98|9:30 - 10|8ish
    FITZA|10.05+|14m
    A Neurotic|10:30 - 11|12 - 14
    Firedance|10:30 to 11:30|6-8
    The Muppet|11 to 12 |any
    The Black Oil|11|12 miles
    paddydriver|Sociable Pace|14 miles

    I'll be there....legs stiff and tired from my 3 midweek runs (extra mileage and one unintentional very hilly run :( ). See you tomorrow :)


  • #2627
    paddydriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭paddydriver


    Firedance wrote: »
    Hey folks, can we get a roll call for the morning? I think I've taken out everyone that can't make it (next time hopefully :) )

    Name|Planned Pace|Distance required
    aceygray|9.30 - 10 min/mile|14 miles
    kin9pin|10:00-11:00|14 miles
    nop98|9:30 - 10|8ish
    FITZA|10.05+|14m
    A Neurotic|10:30 - 11|12 - 14
    Firedance|10:30 to 11:30|6-8
    The Muppet|11 to 12 |any
    The Black Oil|11|12 miles
    paddydriver|Sociable Pace|14 miles

    I'm good for tomorrow.. pared back a little this week to 2 runs as I've sore calf. Not sure will get out for easy run today or give it another night to be better for tomorrow morning.


  • #2628
    Wubble Wubble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    I'll be there. Stick me down for 14 miles @9:30-10. I could try update the table but I would probably wreck it.


  • #2629
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    You're in Wubble Wubble :) I'm also adding Bungy Girl who's joining us for a few miles and a coffee :)

    Name|Planned Pace|Distance required
    aceygray|9.30 - 10 min/mile|14 miles
    kin9pin|10:00-11:00|14 miles
    nop98|9:30 - 10|8ish
    FITZA|10.05+|14m
    A Neurotic|10:30 - 11|12 - 14
    Firedance|10:30 to 11:30|6-8
    The Muppet|11 to 12 |any
    The Black Oil|11|12 miles
    paddydriver|Sociable Pace|14 miles
    Wubble Wubble | 9:30-10 | 14 miles
    Bungy Girl | 9:30-10 | tbd |


  • #2630
    kittyclaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭kittyclaws


    My physio appointment is tomorrow at 11 so I won't get to meet you for coffee and banana bread :(
    Hopefully next time - or at the FD 10 miles next weekend if I'm able to do it :)


  • #2631
    The Muppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Firedance wrote: »
    Hey folks, can we get a roll call for the morning? I think I've taken out everyone that can't make it (next time hopefully :) )

    Name|Planned Pace|Distance required
    aceygray|9.30 - 10 min/mile|14 miles
    kin9pin|10:00-11:00|14 miles
    nop98|9:30 - 10|8ish
    FITZA|10.05+|14m
    A Neurotic|10:30 - 11|12 - 14
    Firedance|10:30 to 11:30|6-8
    The Muppet|11 to 12 |any
    The Black Oil|11|12 miles
    paddydriver|Sociable Pace|14 miles

    I'm in for 14 miles around 11 min pace , where are we starting from in the park, is it a 9 o clock start?


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  • #2632
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    ^^^^ all the info on the meetup in Nop's post Here


  • #2633
    The Muppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Firedance wrote: »
    ^^^^ all the info on the meetup in Nop's post Here

    Oops I'd missed that one Thanks.

    I've memorised the code words, will have forgotten them by the morning though.


  • #2634
    joeKel73
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭joeKel73


    Recently signed up for the marathon and just found this thread when looking for a training program - I'm in!

    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs?

    I've never done a marathon but in the last 3 years I've done a load of 5k races, good few 10k races and 2 half marathons (+2 more as part of half-ironman triathlons this year).

    5k - 23:04 (Galway 5k Series 2013 - Tuam)
    10k - 48:20 (Colemanstown 10km 2015)
    Half-Marathon - 01:58:16 (Kinvara Rock and Road 2016)

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?

    No, not any more - just slow the pace and keep running.

    How much training do you currently do ?

    My training and exercise tends to come in waves. I sign up for an event, train, drop off, panic close to the event and cram some training again, do the event then stop until I sign up for another!

    When the lumpy training is averaged out of the year it's not a lot;
    2016 so far...
    16 cycles (762km) - 23.8km / week
    13 swims (21km) - 338m / week
    22 runs (208km) - 6.5km / week :o

    What do you want to achieve?

    I'm aiming at sub-4:30 for this. I've never ran beyond 21.2km before so going into unchartered territory but I think that's a good goal...

    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?

    I have never successfully stuck to a training plan but I know I'll not be able to wing this on the day (or cram the weeks beforehand) so going to follow the Hal Higdon Novice 1 plan.

    Why are you running this marathon?

    It's the next logical fitness goal for me.

    4 years ago I started at a couch-to-5km level and worked up to my first 5km run without stopping. Since then I've built up to...
    - 5km run (2012)
    - 10km run (2012)
    - Sprint triathlon (2013)
    - Half-marathon (2014)
    - Olympic triathlon (2016)
    - Half-ironman (2016)
    - Full marathon ... (this)
    - Full Ironman... (maybe 2018??)

    I'm toying with the idea of a full Ironman goal in a couple of years but need to experience a full marathon first before I can even start putting a plan in place for that. Also need to get much more consistent with my training!


  • #2635
    Ososlo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Some of you guys who don't like gel belts might prefer to wear something like the below for carrying your gels. Also room for glasses in large back pocket or visor/cap etc.
    I got my first pair for first marathon in 2013 and am wearing them right now so they do last the test of time!

    http://www.ultramarathonrunningstore.com/Mens-Running-Shorts-With-Pockets-s/1831.htm


  • #2636
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,655 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    I'll be there. The HHN1 says 12 miles for tomorrow, I wouldn't be opposed to 14, but it's probably best, given the gospel according to Brother Nop, to the stick the plan...

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



  • #2637
    kin9pin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kin9pin


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Some of you guys who don't like gel belts might prefer to wear something like the below for carrying your gels. Also room for glasses in large back pocket or visor/cap etc.
    I got my first pair for first marathon in 2013 and am wearing them right now so they do last the test of time!

    http://www.ultramarathonrunningstore.com/Mens-Running-Shorts-With-Pockets-s/1831.htm

    Thanks. I have some RonHill shorts with 1 pocket and some gel loops, but I don't think they'll hold enough for a marathon.


  • #2638
    kin9pin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kin9pin


    I am planning on being there for the LSR tomorrow, but waiting on a mechanic for my car. Got home this morning and I have warning lights everywhere, just hoping it's only a dead battery).

    I'll let you know later if I can't make it.


  • #2639
    nop98
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Pomplamousse wrote: »
    I think this marathon training is slowly killing me. I've ANOTHER throat infection, I may have cried when the doctor told me today that I mightn't be able for my LSR this Saturday:o:o
    I'll see how I'm feeling tomorrow evening but may have to take a rain check on the LSR meetup in Phoenix park this Saturday :(

    Sorry to hear, Pomplamousse. Pity you'll miss the session tomorrow - but you're right in making sure you're 100% recovered before returning to running. Take the time, write-off the sessions you might miss.
    Szilvike wrote: »
    Thank you for all your kind messages last week. I've been reading you since, with an aching heart :o

    After one week of no running, only strengthening exercises, went back to the physio today. I'm pain free but he doesn't want me jump back to the plan, and it looks like the boards plan is out of consideration from now on, even if I'll be fine I'll continue with HHN1. Basically he says my body couldn't adapt as quick as the plan "grows" so if I went back now I'd get an other injury again.

    I've to do loads of walking now, and light 1min jog-1min walk sessions plus harder exercises. He's not too happy with me doing the FD10 next Saturday but I promised I'd be really slow, careful and if there's pain I'd stop.

    So that's the situation now :( I feel pretty sad and frustrated, and not too sure anymore if I'll be able to make it to the marathon. But there's still some hope left :)

    Hey Szilvike - there are some positives to focus on, e.g. you're pain-free, you were on a good upwards trajectory before this all happens and you have a fallback option in the HHN1 plan. I agree, don't give up hope.. but be careful.

    Take care with the FD10, as you say yourself, don't force anything. This will be harder than abandoning a solo training run as there will be so many others around you pushing ahead. So you will need to be really disciplined....


  • #2640
    The Muppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Posted this on the Gear and Equipment forum earlier.

    Just got this in my inbox, half price clearance sale,

    https://www.sportpursuit.com/sales/


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  • #2641
    kabuxa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭kabuxa


    donglen wrote:
    Alternatives, depending on life and budget, Frankfurt on the same day, Barca a couple of weeks beforehand, San Sebastián in November, Clonakilty early December. For now, I'm sitting in the sunshine having a few beers, I had a 4 miler pencilled in but have given myself the night off......the rest of the can't do that though!


    Ooooooohhhhh San Sebastian in November! You will never EVER find better scenery and support!!! My hometown! The only thing to be aware is no direct flights close to it in November otherwise.....


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