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  • #32
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,251 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I was alive for Italia 90, albeit only a month old :pac:

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #33
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    Basically Millenials are the generation who didn't get to reap the benefits of the Celtic Tiger, but who will be cleaning up its mess for decades to come.

    Thanks for that, Generation X.

    For the most part Gen Xers have been far more fuçked over by the turn of the century mega boom and bust. Millenials may find it harder to buy a house but I'd rather rent indefinitely than be stuck with a debt so big I'll be paying it long past normal retirement age for a tiny home unsuitable for my family/in an area that doesn't suit my life. Which is what many Gen Xers, especially the younger ones, have been left with.


  • #34
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    iguana wrote: »
    For the most part Gen Xers have been far more fuçked over by the turn of the century mega boom and bust. Millenials may find it harder to buy a house but I'd rather rent indefinitely than be stuck with a debt so big I'll be paying it long past normal retirement age for a tiny home unsuitable for my family/in an area that doesn't suit my life. Which is what many Gen Xers, especially the younger ones, have been left with.

    Surly this is their own fault??

    Why take their bitterness out by sneering at younger people


  • #35
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Samaris wrote: »
    I screamed solidly for about eighteen months after I was born and no-one could figure out why this baby was so permanently enraged.

    :pac:


  • #36
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Samaris wrote: »
    Also, I guarentee if GenXers had phones, they'd have done the same :P We're a narcissistic species!

    Oh I fully agree.

    I guess the point of me referencing that the fault may lie with parents or their environment, such as social media, is to stress that I don't think they are inherently "worse" or anything, merely that they are shaped by very different influences to those faced by previous generations. It's not good or bad, it's different.


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  • #37
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Going off that calculation im technically one of them but tbh i always though of them being 90's babies rather than 80's ones

    Same


  • #38
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    GenX : Most demographers and commentators use birth dates ranging from the early 1960s to the early 1980s.

    Millennials : Most researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s.

    So if you're born in the early 80's you get to decide who you are based on the topic of discussion.


  • #39
    pumpkin4life
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Characteristics:

    Physically: Taller, but smaller builds. For men, higher pitched voices. For women, the opposite. More extremes; more ripped lads, badly obese lads, than previous generations. More lads with poor eyesight/glasses.

    More prone to mental illness, be it depression, narcissism etc. This is due to safe, risk averse, bubble paper, nothing can hurt little Timmy childhoods, where being able to adopt to struggle and pain is not allowed, in addition to a piss poor job market with far lower purchasing power, (thank you Boomers) opportunities and higher taxes. I said this in another thread: expect more Bressies, depression, medication en Lexapro, quack psychology and therapies in the next few years. Just mental health weirdness in general.

    More ideologically extreme. Example from a night out; talking to a Millenial one about how she found it offensive and sexist that a North Dublin lad called her love, then talking to a guy who was talking about being in support of the alt-right. Far more nihilistic; YOLO and all that craic. Far less nationalistic, and far more into virtue signalling and being a good person: look like a good person by liking the right movies, music etc. This in contrast to the high cynicism of lads in the X generation.

    More of a stratification between working class and middle class Millenials. Seems the Boomer and Gen X generation didn't have that as much, or at least thats my wc background.

    More socially retarded than older generations.

    More ambitious than other generations.

    I'm in my twenties and I've always found it easier to talk to/get along with Gen Xers for the above reasons. Though all generations have their weird ****e I suppose.


  • #40
    MilesMorales1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Considering this isn't the first thread you've made on this subject OP, I think you're just a bit odd, or have a problem with people younger than you, or whatever.


  • #41
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MilesMorales1 wrote: »
    Considering this isn't the first thread you've made on this subject OP, I think you're just a bit odd, or have a problem with people younger than you, or whatever.

    Actually, I think it is. Though I have raised concerns in other threads, such as the increasing fixation on gyms. Not gym work to run faster or punch harder, but to lose weight, to develop abs, to look better. So steroids and Roz Purcell are in. But even if it's not, so? I mean, on the football forum, you'll find lots of people post a few different threads about...football.

    As for the personal comment, I think you may be a Millenial. Did you deliberately set out to provide a demonstration of...
    Deleted User wrote: »
    ...although if they perceive the slightest wrong to them, it's drama and strops all round...
    ...
    An inability to accept criticism or challenge...
    ...
    Cue amusing tantrum...

    if so, thanks.


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  • #42
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    How old do you have to be to be a millennial


  • #43
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Can't wait for the OP's thread on the bad movie tastes of millennials


  • #44
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pumpkin4life wrote: »
    I said this in another thread: expect more Bressies, depression, medication en Lexapro, quack psychology and therapies in the next few years. Just mental health weirdness in general.
    ...
    Far less nationalistic, and far more into virtue signalling and being a good person: look like a good person by liking the right movies, music etc. This in contrast to the high cynicism of lads in the X generation.

    2 good observations.

    The person who was banging on about being gluten free has gone to a faith healer, a life coach, someone who applies those suction cups, has praised the "work" of a homeopath, and likes those clichés on facebook like "surround yourself with those who laugh".

    She has been told to go to a Psychologist but won't. I mean, why try someone with proper qualifications?

    And she has no cynicism about any of those treatments. Or indeed about anything. The poor thing is so gullible is almost endearing.


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 745 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I am 26 op and I agree with you that people my age or younger now possess way more contemptible traits than those who were similar ages 20 years ago. I suppose when you get down to it they're just a product of the times and culture they grew up in- doesn't mean they don't possess the contemptible traits though

    See that video going around of the Mayo nightclub in 1990? That took me back to my youth in the mid to late 90s when adults seemed so much more laid back, less concerned with their appearance, more living in the moment, down to earth. Now men go around extremely groomed, all with variations of that same haircut, tight on inside, hair up high, where they are afraid of looking bald.
    Wearing self-indulgent tight tracksuit bottoms, jeans, well fitted jackets because they are afraid of looking the least bit overweight. Wearing sunglasses like arrogant un-Irish douchbags! Every single lad going around with big bulging muscles, imposing them on everyone else, wearing those tight v-necked t-shirts, the physical evidence of their self-focus and unnatural efforts to stave off insecurity but websites like Joe.ie etc. describe it as "becoming a 'better' man".. In reality they are fuelling the arms race of insecurity about appearance that social media had sparked. I can't imagine what kind of children are going to develop from the psychologically toxic world they are finding themselves born into!


  • #46
    MilesMorales1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Actually, I think it is. Though I have raised concerns in other threads, such as the increasing fixation on gyms. Not gym work to run faster or punch harder, but to lose weight, to develop abs, to look better. So steroids and Roz Purcell are in. But even if it's not, so? I mean, on the football forum, you'll find lots of people post a few different threads about...football.

    As for the personal comment, I think you may be a Millenial. Did you deliberately set out to provide a demonstration of...



    if so, thanks.


    Alright, lets see


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=100170060 - getting old and hating everything


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99735371 - 20 somethings...does their attitude stink?


    Seems like you do have a problem with them, in fact.


  • #47
    Kev_2012
    Closed Accounts Posts: 976 ✭✭✭Kev_2012


    Aren't millennials people born between the early 80s and early 00s? So effectively ages 16-36?

    That probably encompasses a lot of people on boards.

    I think the one you want is generation snowflake. those f*ckers can't handle any banter.

    Actually let's focus on anyone who is too PC. They suck the fun out of life, clowns.

    It's quite funny that you say that about the young fellas going to the gym because they physically look built, but christ they are as weak as water when it comes to sport. Works in my favour not having to play rugby against the tough bastards from older generations anymore and these apes look twice the size but wouldn't knock the skin off a custard :D:D:D


  • #48
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    Basically Millenials are the generation who didn't get to reap the benefits of the Celtic Tiger, but who will be cleaning up its mess for decades to come.

    Thanks for that, Generation X.

    Gener-ation X
    Wrote a lot of cheques
    Now Millen-ials can stress
    And hope - at best
    To try escape the mis-ry
    (Of) austerity and usury
    That's okay

    We'll send on a postcard
    From the Costa Concord
    While you pay our pensions
    You keep up the work
    While we pop a cork
    Just you pay

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhF47Zny_Fk


  • #49
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,561 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    This just a classic case of "Young people today eh?". People get older and find young people annoying because they don't have good taste in music and dress funny. The cycle continues.


  • #50
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 745 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    This just a classic case of "Young people today eh?". People get older and find young people annoying because they don't have good taste in music and dress funny. The cycle continues.

    I am the age the op is complaining about and I basically agree with him. Every generation might have the old complaining about the young but the traits complained about by the older generation change. The current batch of undesirable traits possessed by my generation are particularly loathsome to me anyway!


  • #51
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,561 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I am the age the op is complaining about and I basically agree with him. Every generation might have the old complaining about the young but the traits complained about by the older generation change. The current batch of undesirable traits possessed by my generation are particularly loathsome to me anyway!

    Well, I just found out today that I'm a millenial too. I'm going to have to throw all my Pearl Jam CDs out. sign up to snapchat and Instagram and get a gym membership this evening. How do you think that makes me feel?


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  • #52
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    :pac:


  • #53
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 745 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Well, I just found out today that I'm a millenial too. I'm going to have to throw all my Pearl Jam CDs out. sign up to snapchat and Instagram and get a gym membership this evening. How do you think that makes me feel?

    Pretty bad!


  • #54
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MilesMorales1 wrote: »
    Alright, lets see

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=100170060 - getting old and hating everything

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99735371 - 20 somethings...does their attitude stink?

    Seems like you do have a problem with them, in fact.

    Look, I thanked you earlier for making my point about inability to take criticism. I think you are now just fishing for more thanks.

    Have I mentioned a need for affirmation in any of my threads? Throw that one in too...oh and thanks for that...

    Now, instead of worrying about me, how about trying the topic? Go on, it evidently irritates you. Why? Is it close to the bone?
    Mickeroo wrote: »
    This just a classic case of "Young people today eh?". People get older and find young people annoying because they don't have good taste in music and dress funny. The cycle continues.

    But on the other hand sociologists have also identified particular traits they assert belong to certain generations.


  • #55
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    This just a classic case of "Young people today eh?".

    Yea, but it sounds better when there's a name for them!


  • #56
    Your Face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I always thought of it as a term describing certain religious beliefs.
    I have the advantage of being able to read though, so maybe I'm being unfair.


  • #57
    pumpkin4life
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I am 26 op and I agree with you that people my age or younger now possess way more contemptible traits than those who were similar ages 20 years ago. I suppose when you get down to it they're just a product of the times and culture they grew up in- doesn't mean they don't possess the contemptible traits though

    See that video going around of the Mayo nightclub in 1990? That took me back to my youth in the mid to late 90s when adults seemed so much more laid back, less concerned with their appearance, more living in the moment, down to earth. Now men go around extremely groomed, all with variations of that same haircut, tight on inside, hair up high, where they are afraid of looking bald.
    Wearing self-indulgent tight tracksuit bottoms, jeans, well fitted jackets because they are afraid of looking the least bit overweight. Wearing sunglasses like arrogant un-Irish douchbags! Every single lad going around with big bulging muscles, imposing them on everyone else, wearing those tight v-necked t-shirts, the physical evidence of their self-focus and unnatural efforts to stave off insecurity but websites like Joe.ie etc. describe it as "becoming a 'better' man".. In reality they are fuelling the arms race of insecurity about appearance that social media had sparked. I can't imagine what kind of children are going to develop from the psychologically toxic world they are finding themselves born into!

    Yep.

    In addition, the increased number of overweight/obese ones, plus the fact that Millenials are more socially awkward/clumsy than other generations of people, means that in terms of being attractive to some one, looks is an area you end up focusing on to an egregious degree.


  • #58
    MilesMorales1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Look, I thanked you earlier for making my point about inability to take criticism. I think you are now just fishing for more thanks.

    Have I mentioned a need for affirmation in any of my threads? Throw that one in too...oh and thanks for that...

    Now, instead of worrying about me, how about trying the topic? Go on, it evidently irritates you. Why? Is it close to the bone?



    But on the other hand sociologists have also identified particular traits they assert belong to certain generations.


    Not at all. My generation is terrible. Social media has enabled our self indulgent narcissistic tendencies as human beings to explode, we live in a digital world that may or may not exist, we have a tendency to get very annoyed about stupid stuff for short periods then completely forget about those things cos something new came along.

    On the other hand, we're not nearly as terrible as a significant minority of your generation, who, as you continually slide into irrelevancy, become more and more bitter about it, and decide the best way to vent that frustration is to claim how terrible we are, missing the fact of course that one shouldn't judge an entire generation of people based on anecdotal evidence of people you've met, or people who post on boards.ie, or comment sections.

    I venture in fact that if smartphones, selfies, the internet in its current form, had existed for 'generation X' you guys wouldn't be that much different from us. You're not that different already in fact, you just like to think you are cos it makes you feel smug and like you're not getting old and less useful. So you do you.


    awaits inevitable 'millennial tantrum' comment from OP


  • #59
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 745 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    But on the other hand sociologists have also identified particular traits they assert belong to certain generations.

    Exactly- culture and realities of life actually change, therefore behaviour, attitudes, perspectives of people of the same ages living in different decades etc. also actually change. Depending on personal taste/distaste, for worse or for better.


  • #60
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,561 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Deleted User wrote: »

    But on the other hand sociologists have also identified particular traits they assert belong to certain generations.

    I'm not sure you'd need a sociology degree to come to that conclusion to be honest. Social change and circumstance will always breed different traits and values in people., it's pretty much the entire reason why the older generations always get rankled by the younger ones.


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  • #61
    Zillah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Every generation has people with flaws in it. Millennials seem to have a larger than normal percentage of snowflakes. Not all that bad in the grand scheme of things. Millennials aren't the ones who demolished the global economy. They're the most liberal, green, and tolerant generation to exist, and they're inheriting a mountain of problems from the very previous generations that are whining about them. They're more educated and worse paid than the generations before them. They've the most job insecurity, they've the lowest chance of owning their own home. They were raised in a time of boundless optimism and just about the time it came to them leaving school/college and starting their careers the entire thing came crashing down - not because of trigger words or safespaces but because of the greed and carelessness of Xers and Baby Boomers.

    Y'all got an easy ride, then ruined it for the next generation. Don't sit on your accumulated wealth, whining about the next generation that you screwed over, who you expect to pay your debts and bloated pensions.


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