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most memorable murder case?

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  • #242
    PowerToWait
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    Yep, I'd be throwing away the keys where Joe O'Reilly is concerned.

    This one is messed up as well. Ritual satanic killing in Palmerstown.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/new-inquest-into-1973-satanic-killing-of-boy-7-27980749.html


  • #243
    Shint0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Shint0


    PowerToWait wrote: »
    Yep, I'd be throwing away the keys where Joe O'Reilly is concerned.

    This one is messed up as well. Ritual satanic killing in Palmerstown.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/new-inquest-into-1973-satanic-killing-of-boy-7-27980749.html
    I never heard of that case. Very disturbing. You have to wonder how the teenager, the perpetrator, had knowledge of satanic rituals and where they got access to the silver cup and three white hosts found by the body as mentioned in that article.


  • #244
    tomofson
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    rosebell1238 wrote: »
    Don't think many people in Ireland would have heard of this case but the murder of Anita Cobby in Australia in the late 80s. Read about it and what happened her, just vile.

    More recently Karen Buckleys, everything about that case was just hideous. You'd actually have nightmares thinking about it. The pictures of her on the night out aswell give me the chills and she dead 2 or 3 hours later :O

    Also, as Holly and Jessica are mentioned a lot does anyone remember Sarah Payne? which happened around the same time if I remember correctly (maybe a bit earlier, not too sure) Can still see that picture of her in her school uniform posing for the camera with her lovely smile.

    Watched a documentary on the anita cobby murder recently, and yes I remember the sarah payne murder...

    The ones that stick out for me would probably be ranaoid murrays murder as well as holly and jessica's murder in England... Robert Holohans sticks out in my mind to...


  • #245
    seanietruck
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    did anybody watch the documentary tonight on tv3 of Karen Buckleys murder?what did ye think? I personally wish they did more about Karen as a person rather than how she died and in the aftermath of the murder.


  • #246
    Healio
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    Shout-out to louise woodward "involuntary" baby killer.


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  • #247
    Hercule Poirot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    Andrei Chikatilo, AKA the Butcher of Rostov. The very definition of "he was a quiet man" - killed over 50 people, men, woman, children, it didn't matter. The film Citizen X is based on his crimes and it is shocking to see how much one could get away with in the days before technology found it's feet.


  • #248
    Chuchote
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    If it was murder, the disappearance of Annie McCarrick.

    Surprisingly, there seems to have been no public request in France for any home video or film footage anyone might have taken in Johnny Fox's, the pub she was last seen in – apparently it was thronged with French tourists at the time.


  • #249
    Galwayguy35
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    I know it's been mentioned before but the murder of Manuela Riedo is one I remember well, only in the city a few days and such a terrible thing to happen to her.

    The murder of Siobhan Hynes is another shocking case.

    I've no kids myself but it must be difficult for those fathers to sit a few feet from the men that did those things and not want to tear them to pieces.


  • #250
    ofcork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,583 ✭✭✭ofcork


    The galling thing about the manuela riedo case it that the guy barry was it shouldnt even have been out.


  • #251
    Smondie
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    ofcork wrote: »
    The galling thing about the manuela riedo case it that the guy barry was it shouldnt even have been out.
    Same story with Bettina Poeschel. He shouldn't have been out at the time and is being let out again.


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  • #252
    anonymous00000
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    seanietruck wrote: »
    did anybody watch the documentary tonight on tv3 of Karen Buckleys murder?what did ye think? I personally wish they did more about Karen as a person rather than how she died and in the aftermath of the murder.

    Yes I watched it, but forgive me if I'm wrong but was that the 3rd or 4th time the documentary was shown on TV3 since the sentencing?

    I also agree I wish more was shown about Karen and her life, who she was. She shouldn't be defined by her horrible murder, rather the beautiful girl and nurse she was.


  • #253
    Wigglepuppy
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    Sophie Toscan Du Plantier. Actually it emerged today that French authorities are seeking Ian Bailey's extradition.


  • #254
    yellowcandle
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    Wigglepuppy wrote: »
    Sophie Toscan Du Plantier. Actually it emerged today that French authorities are seeking Ian Bailey's extradition.


    He is a horrible man.


  • #255
    [Deleted User]
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    Chuchote wrote: »
    If it was murder, the disappearance of Annie McCarrick.

    Surprisingly, there seems to have been no public request in France for any home video or film footage anyone might have taken in Johnny Fox's, the pub she was last seen in – apparently it was thronged with French tourists at the time.

    It would probably be unusual for a tourist to separate from a crowd and decide they were familiar enough with the Wicklow mountains to decide to murder someone there and hide the body. I presume the Gardai have a very narrow list of who it realistically might be but they just lack the evidence. Not having a body doesn't make a prosecution impossible...just very difficult unless there is overwhelming circumstantial evidence.


  • #256
    Spanish Eyes
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    So many murders/manslaughters.

    Couldn't rate them. Each family is suffering the loss. And how they deal with the release of the perpetrator is beyond me. The killer is out, the deceased will never be back.

    But there are some that stick in your head just the same. Publicity I suppose.


  • #257
    Spanish Eyes
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    Wigglepuppy wrote: »
    Sophie Toscan Du Plantier. Actually it emerged today that French authorities are seeking Ian Bailey's extradition.

    I read about that.

    But could you imagine the Gardai deciding they were going after a French citizen in France for an alleged murder committed in France? Not a chance.

    Just bizarre.


  • #258
    [Deleted User]
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    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    I read about that.

    But could you imagine the Gardai deciding they were going after a French citizen in France for an alleged murder committed in France? Not a chance.

    Just bizarre.

    Which is possibly a comment on the single mindedness and determination of the respective forces. A lot of the commentary about the Garda work around that crime was less than complimentary. No harm in having another force sift through it.


  • #259
    Spanish Eyes
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Which is possibly a comment on the single mindedness and determination of the respective forces. A lot of the commentary about the Garda work around that crime was less than complimentary. No harm in having another force sift through it.

    Is it legal though under EU law? I dunno.

    Extradition is one thing under a EAW, but did they do that? And if not, why not in the intervening 20 years?

    The family have connections methinks!


  • #260
    [Deleted User]
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    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Is it legal though under EU law? I dunno.

    Extradition is one thing under a EAW, but did they do that? And if not, why not in the intervening 20 years?

    The family have connections methinks!

    To who?

    And to put it in the same way as you, why didn't they use these alleged connections in the intervening 20 years?


  • #261
    Ocean Blue
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It would probably be unusual for a tourist to separate from a crowd and decide they were familiar enough with the Wicklow mountains to decide to murder someone there and hide the body. I presume the Gardai have a very narrow list of who it realistically might be but they just lack the evidence. Not having a body doesn't make a prosecution impossible...just very difficult unless there is overwhelming circumstantial evidence.

    I assume they meant a French tourist may have photo/video that may show Annie and who she was with in the pub etc....not that a French tourist is a suspect


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  • #262
    Annasopra
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    Surprised noone mentioned Larry Murphy

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #263
    Smondie
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Surprised noone mentioned Larry Murphy
    Not really surprising tbh, who has he been convicted of murdering?


  • #264
    [Deleted User]
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    I know it's been mentioned before but the murder of Manuela Riedo is one I remember well, only in the city a few days and such a terrible thing to happen to her.

    The murder of Siobhan Hynes is another shocking case.

    I've no kids myself but it must be difficult for those fathers to sit a few feet from the men that did those things and not want to tear them to pieces.

    The Manuela Riedo murder was one that particularly stuck with me and many people in Galway, because it happened so near the city centre and on a walkway frequented by so many people. For years after her death, a memorial service was held annually for her - her parents came to the city, I believe, the first one and they were just so touched by the fact that the city still held her in their memory.


  • #265
    Colser
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    Deleted User wrote:
    Which is possibly a comment on the single mindedness and determination of the respective forces. A lot of the commentary about the Garda work around that crime was less than complimentary. No harm in having another force sift through it.

    Deleted User wrote:
    The Manuela Riedo murder was one that particularly stuck with me and many people in Galway, because it happened so near the city centre and on a walkway frequented by so many people. For years after her death, a memorial service was held annually for her - her parents came to the city, I believe, the first one and they were just so touched by the fact that the city still held her in their memory.


    I thought the documentary on this was lovely..her parents are such nice people.

    A similar murder happened in Cork years ago to a girl out walking her dog..the murderer has since been released to carry out more crimes on innocent people,makes no sense that they're ever freed imo.


  • #266
    anonymous00000
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    Colser wrote: »
    I thought the documentary on this was lovely..her parents are such nice people.

    A similar murder happened in Cork years ago to a girl out walking her dog..the murderer has since been released to carry out more crimes on innocent people,makes no sense that they're ever freed imo.

    Yes I remember watching the documentary on her murder too and couldn't help but shed a tear. How her parents coped after losing their only child like that is beyond me. I would die.
    The same with the documentary on Michaela Harte shown on RTE a couple of years ago interviewing her husband - how traumatic. How do these people go on, I couldn't imagine their pain, knowing their loved ones final moments.

    I also agree life should mean life - no second chances.


  • #267
    ofcork
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    Smondie wrote: »
    Same story with Bettina Poeschel. He shouldn't have been out at the time and is being let out again.

    And yet again with sylvia roche kelly murder in limerick another guy who shouldnt have been out.


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