Eir rural FTTH thread

ED E · 01-08-2016 12:44PM

Falcon L wrote: »

That would make sense alright. The D standing for dangerous.

It would more likely be Damaged or another word, if they marked them as Dangerous and one were to fail(quite common) and cause injury/damage to a third party they'd leave themselves open to litigation.

daraghwal · 01-08-2016 12:47PM

ED E wrote: »

It would more likely be Damaged or another word, if they marked them as Dangerous and one were to fail(quite common) and cause injury/damage to a third party they'd leave themselves open to litigation.

To be honest, I'd say it's just grades ABCD where D means they need to be replaced within a certain length of time. In my area they came around and put A, B C or D on the poles. The ones with D were replaced very quickly. I doubt they have a special word for A B C etc.

greenhorn22 · 01-08-2016 01:22PM

I am about to wire my house with cat6 and was wondering what way eir connect ftth to your house. Does it terminate to a new box beside the main phone line box coming in and there to your router? What router do they use? and if i went with Siro, what set up entry point do they use?
tks

daraghwal · 01-08-2016 01:26PM

greenhorn22 wrote: »

I am about to wire my house with cat6 and was wondering what way eir connect ftth to your house. Does it terminate to a new box beside the main phone line box coming in and there to your router? What router do they use? and if i went with Siro, what set up entry point do they use?
tks

Here is the eir setup anyway.

greenhorn22 · 01-08-2016 01:41PM

daraghwal wrote: »

Here is the eir setup anyway.

tks. Another thing to plug in. Will someone please design a better plug/socket asap

ShaunC · 01-08-2016 01:45PM

daraghwal wrote: »

To be honest, I'd say it's just grades ABCD where D means they need to be replaced within a certain length of time. In my area they came around and put A, B C or D on the poles. The ones with D were replaced very quickly. I doubt they have a special word for A B C etc.

I think the codes mean;

A = A1 good girl Sharon.
B = Bae.
C = Crap.
D = Dodgy as fcuk.;)

tsue921i8wljb3 · 01-08-2016 02:28PM

Machinehead wrote: »

AFIK poles with 'D' plates are designated for replacement along with the FTTH rollout. I have one right next to my house & when the guy from Eir was around a few months ago he said that all poles were being checked along with the rollout. The pole near me had a large crack running almost half it's length & had the 'D' plate attached denoting that it needs replacing. He went on to say that rolling out the new FTTH on week or damaged poles would be stupid as the fibre cable is much heavier & that Eir are taking this opportunity to check the entire network for any damage.

Thanks. It had not occurred to me that it might mean replacement. In the area I was talking about there were quite a lot of poles with the plates. Many of them looked fine from a visual perspective, not sloping etc. I should be back in the area soon and I'll try to get a count. I wonder would they be replacing poles by age as well?

Gonzo · 01-08-2016 05:02PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Gonzo do all the poles in your area with overhead drops have D plates?

Ive only seen one pole in the area with a D on it since early April and it looks in good condition and hasn't been replaced.

garroff · 01-08-2016 05:21PM

D" on a pole means "Defective", not decay. It could be condemned for being unstable (too may wires in one direction without a stay counter-balancing it), or it could be that it is "Shallow depth" (not planted deep enough) or it may have been condemned for Damage. i.e by a hedgecutter or vandalism.

Found this on a site.
Probably a better explanation

yfaykya · 02-08-2016 09:48PM

Hey - how would I (if possible!) find out whether FTTH will actually be available on the upside down L shaped road to the left of the exchange (green dot) in the image attached? My house is before the turn on that road and I currently get 24Mb.

Thanks!

ED E · 02-08-2016 10:00PM

yfaykya wrote: »

Hey - how would I (if possible!) find out whether FTTH will actually be available on the upside down L shaped road to the left of the exchange (green dot) in the image attached? My house is before the turn on that road and I currently get 24Mb.

Thanks!

That looks like they're skipping the "estate" under current plans. If there's eVDSL at the exchange the last house is 1400m from it and should just about receive 30Mb with vectoring.

TMR1_E01

Fibre Broadband Cabinet is Live

Its live and all sure. No FTTH for you you poor sod, too close.

yfaykya · 03-08-2016 10:26AM

Hmm.. I thought they had to provide 30Mb at least? Maybe they will turn on vectoring to try and get that.
Also the whole road is ducted so it would be so easy to drag the fibre down it.

guil · 03-08-2016 11:02AM

yfaykya wrote: »

Hmm.. I thought they had to provide 30Mb at least? Maybe they will turn on vectoring to try and get that.
Also the whole road is ducted so it would be so easy to drag the fibre down it.

NBP is 30 minimum.

yfaykya · 03-08-2016 12:33PM

guil wrote: »

NBP is 30 minimum.

Exactly. I am only getting 24Mb in a blue area. Hence my query.

guil · 03-08-2016 12:56PM

yfaykya wrote: »

Exactly. I am only getting 24Mb in a blue area. Hence my query.

You're not in a blue area, you're close to it. I doubt there will be anything about minimum speeds until the NBP is finished or at least well underway. All this is for another thread really as it's not FTTH.

pegasus1 · 03-08-2016 12:58PM

yfaykya wrote: »

Exactly. I am only getting 24Mb in a blue area. Hence my query.

You could be one of the 197,000 that was recently added to the total for the NBP..

Gonzo · 03-08-2016 01:02PM

yfaykya wrote: »

Hmm.. I thought they had to provide 30Mb at least? Maybe they will turn on vectoring to try and get that.
Also the whole road is ducted so it would be so easy to drag the fibre down it.

your too close to the exchange for the blue rural line scheme. Even blue lines drawn through the center of towns may not get the FTTH for many years. However Ive a feeling once Eir's blue line scheme is completed during 2020 they may turn their attention to providing FTTH throughout the urban area which are currently covered by FTTC, although even FTTC itself can be upgraded greatly over the next few years once your within 1km of a cab.

yfaykya · 03-08-2016 03:23PM

guil wrote: »

You're not in a blue area, you're close to it. I doubt there will be anything about minimum speeds until the NBP is finished or at least well underway. All this is for another thread really as it's not FTTH.

By blue area I mean in the NBP.
http://www.dccae.gov.ie/communications/SiteCollectionDocuments/Broadband/Maps%20update%20logo/Galway%200316.pdf

Not sure what you mean by another thread. I am posting all this as I was hoping to get FTTH as I am below the 30Mb minimum and am also in an area (Turloughmore) where Eir said they would roll out.

Dero · 03-08-2016 04:02PM

So, I live in in an NBP intervention area, but it seems that our local exchange is part of the initial rollout of FTTH (Curragh Camp, Kildare). However, none of the blue lines touch my road. I suppose my question is a hybrid of an NBP/FTTH one in that I'm wondering if Eir win the NBP contract, what are the chances of the already FTTH exchange areas being expanded first?

I realise it's years away in either case anyway, but still. It's a bit depressing seeing the exchange name on the initial list, but knowing the magic blue lines come nowhere near me.

It's selfish I know, but I'm hoping that those areas around FTTH-enabled exchanges would represent "low-hanging fruit" to Eir in an NBP context.

ED E · 03-08-2016 04:13PM

Dero wrote: »

So, I live in in an NBP intervention area, but it seems that our local exchange is part of the initial rollout of FTTH (Curragh Camp, Kildare). However, none of the blue lines touch my road. I suppose my question is a hybrid of an NBP/FTTH one in that I'm wondering if Eir win the NBP contract, what are the chances of the already FTTH exchange areas being expanded first?

I realise it's years away in either case anyway, but still. It's a bit depressing seeing the exchange name on the initial list, but knowing the magic blue lines come nowhere near me.

It's selfish I know, but I'm hoping that those areas around FTTH-enabled exchanges would represent "low-hanging fruit" to Eir in an NBP context.

There are several VDSL cabs in place and one to come, are you sure you won't be within about 1200m of one of them?

Dero · 03-08-2016 04:25PM

Nope, I'm 1km from the physically closest cabinet (CUR1_007), but the phone line comes from the other direction, and the nearest cabinet is 3km that way (CUR1_001).

I'm hoping for Imagine LTE shortly to tide us over till NBP Nirvana (:pac:). It's just a bit frustrating to fall through that gap between FTTC and FTTH.

Heh, as an aside, I checked my neighbours address on Eir, as I don't have a landline, this is what they offer:

Speeds of up to 512Kb are available at your home.

JohnC. · 03-08-2016 06:06PM

Gonzo wrote: »

your too close to the exchange for the blue rural line scheme. Even blue lines drawn through the center of towns may not get the FTTH for many years.

Is there a definition, even loose, for too close? Is approx 750m likely safe?

Gonzo · 03-08-2016 06:19PM

JohnC. wrote: »

Is there a definition, even loose, for too close? Is approx 750m likely safe?

its difficult to guess, it depends on the size of the village/town, number of cabinets.

In my hometown of Dunshaughlin, the open eir map shows the blue lines passing through the center of the village in various locations and along housing estates on their way to rural routes. So far KNN have been spotted working on the blue line scheme from the edge of the town boundary and working outwards into the countryside, not working in the urban area itself.

Dunshaughlin urban area is not that big, probably about 1.2km radius, the routes beyond this urban radius have had work carried out. Somewhere much larger like Drogheda would have a larger urban radius and thus work carried out beyond its boundary.

Tiny places with no FTTC and blue lines running through them would probably have FTTH in the center as there is no FTTC. Most locations within 500meters of a cabinet probably wont have FTTH but depending on location there could be some lucky people with overlap, those who can get decent FTTC and who will be able to avail of FTTH when it happens in the area.

At this stage as work is being carried out, I wish we could have access to more information where checking your phone number would at least give some sort of message that fibre extreme is coming to your number in or around a certain date/month.

damienirel · 03-08-2016 11:30PM

Just wondering is anything happening out there? 100k houses connected by march 2017 seems wildly ambitious now in August 2016 7 months to get all of that done? Nothing new if another deadline is missed by the incumbent operator.

daraghwal · 03-08-2016 11:34PM

damienirel wrote: »

Just wondering is anything happening out there? 100k houses connected by march 2017 seems wildly ambitious now in August 2016 7 months to get all of that done? Nothing new if another deadline is missed by the incumbent operator.

100K houses that have access to it. Not connected. Just with fibre available to them if they want it I presume. There might not be near 100,000 taking up on the offer by March. There appears to be a bit of prep work being done already just not many houses connected (if any yet).

damienirel · 03-08-2016 11:45PM

daraghwal wrote: »

100K houses that have access to it. Not connected. Just with fibre available to them if they want it I presume. There might not be near 100,000 taking up on the offer by March. There appears to be a bit of prep work being done already just not many houses connected (if any yet).

By having "access" I'd assume it would need to be available for connection if the person residing in the property that has "access" decides to get a connection? In that case it still appears to be massively ambitious to the point of calling bullsh1t on it.

rob808 · 04-08-2016 12:04AM

damienirel wrote: »

By having "access" I'd assume it would need to be available for connection if the person residing in the property that has "access" decides to get a connection? In that case it still appears to be massively ambitious to the point of calling bullsh1t on it.

They should be start in September since that the start of Autumn and should finish by December.Im on the December rollout which finish March wish I was on the Autumn rollout a well.

damienirel · 04-08-2016 12:14AM

So they start in September and expect to have 100k accessible fibre homes by March. I'll believe it when I see it. This is the same crowd who provide me with 2mbs - ist don't think so.

marno21 · 04-08-2016 12:19AM

They are finishing the FTTC rollout first (or most of it anyway). That has been their no 1 priority, and it's almost done

damienirel · 04-08-2016 12:22AM

marno21 wrote: »

They are finishing the FTTC rollout first (or most of it anyway). That has been their no 1 priority, and it's almost done

Now the real fibre connections?

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