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Hostage situation in French church

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭LuckyRoche


    Appears to be a rallying cry. Is actually just a load of bullshït. Unsubstantiated ranty crap. Yet again. I don't care if the crap I spewed is true dammit I have the feelies and you all must know of my feelies!

    All the cases he mentions are true and a two second Google search will confirm that. So how is it 'randy crap?'

    Or by 'randy crap', do you mean things you don't like hearing and that go against the narrative?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭CaptainInsano


    gar318 wrote: »
    Not sure were to start on that drivel above I asked you a simple question in response to your reply highlight the part that wasn't fact please ? and you can stop with the melodramatics your not writing a novel

    I wonder how many crimes a day in Europe are committed by Europeans?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭CaptainInsano


    gar318 wrote: »
    Absolutely , feel free to do your research and come back to me I'm sick of seeing the same bull**** posted here defending asylum seekers I don't post prefer to view as I couldn't be bothered getting into it with people who refuse to see what's right in front of them maybe if it was someone's daughter here who was raped they would see it differently

    If I just had to pluck a few random cases from memory right now

    Munich park - woman asks two drunk asylum seekers to please keep it down middle of the day attacked and raped by both in the middle of the park both caught and arrested response to police "we were having a bad day"

    Syrian asylum teen hacks pregnant woman to death with machete not so long ago

    Iraqi teen rapes 10 yr old boy in Germany his excuse "hasn't had sex in 4 months"

    I frankly couldn't give two ****es if someone calls me a racist these people are not integrating in Europe and never will they seem hellbent on raping and murdering anyone who is of a different religion and has different views to them you only have to watch the news to see packs of young men roaming around causing havoc

    And yet they still probably use punctuation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Bob24



    And yet they still probably use punctuation.

    Could you explicit what you mean by this comment in the context of the thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    gar318 wrote: »
    not a single day for the las month has passed without an incident of murder rape or brutal assault involving asylum seekers in Europe

    This sentence would remain valid even if you took out the 'involving asylum seekers' part.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    I wonder how many crimes a day in Europe are committed by Europeans?

    The point is the nature of some of the crimes by immigrants and the misogynistic cultures they come from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The point is the nature of some of the crimes by immigrants and the misogynistic cultures they come from.


    rape and sexual assault existed long before we had immigrants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    rape and sexual assault existed long before we had immigrants.

    Obviously . That's not the point though. And this has been discussed at great length already .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    rape and sexual assault existed long before we had immigrants.
    Generally, yes. But it surely has spiked in recent times in places where it happened less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    shedweller wrote: »
    Generally, yes. But it surely has spiked in recent times in places where it happened less.


    getting more publicity certainly. do you actually know that it has spiked? There were thousands of rapes and sexual assaults every year in germany before the immigrants arrived. how many are you attributing to immigrants?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Obviously . That's not the point though. And this has been discussed at great length already .


    what is the point? that some immigrants have engaged in criminal behaviour?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    what is the point? that some immigrants have engaged in criminal behaviour?

    Probably better to re-read the thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭CaptainInsano


    Probably better to re-read the thread.

    Would you admit that it's a vast minority of immigrants committing this crimes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭CaptainInsano


    Obviously . That's not the point though. And this has been discussed at great length already .

    Your point is that crimes of a sexual nature have always existed, but asylum seekers are committing sexual assaults also. Very enlightening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Your point is that crimes of a sexual nature have always existed, but asylum seekers are committing sexual assaults also. Very enlightening.

    You don't seem very enlightened to me . Someone else made a comment , their 'point ' was questioned and I suggested that the other person re-re the thread because the arguments have been made . You might do the same instead of making silly pot-shot replies to my comments and clogging the page up. I'm not going to respond to the next one so please don't bother .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭LuckyRoche


    The priest was buried earlier today. May he rest in peace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭fed up sick and tired


    Your point is that crimes of a sexual nature have always existed, but asylum seekers are committing sexual assaults also. Very enlightening.

    Quite a pile of flaky one-worldism building up here between you and your likes, but it neatly illustrates what is wrong with you.
    I wonder how many crimes a day in Europe are committed by Europeans?
    This sentence would remain valid even if you took out the 'involving asylum seekers' part.
    rape and sexual assault existed long before we had immigrants.
    There were thousands of rapes and sexual assaults every year in germany before the immigrants arrived. how many are you attributing to immigrants?

    That's all from the last few posts on this thread alone, but it illustrates well the problem here.

    The issue is whether or not the host nation has a right to choose who comes to live in it.

    In an amazing ignorance of human nature, all of the above quotes completely gloss over that as an irrelevance, not worthy even of mention.

    Instead we have a fashionable, emotional weakness, that accounts only the needs and wishes of the immigrant. Without any insistence that there be credible controls in place, much less a corresponding benefit to the host nation.

    It is beyond stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭CaptainInsano


    Quite a pile of flaky one-worldism building up here between you and your likes, but it neatly illustrates what is wrong with you.









    That's all from the last few posts on this thread alone, but it illustrates well the problem here.

    The issue is whether or not the host nation has a right to choose who comes to live in it.

    In an amazing ignorance of human nature, all of the above quotes completely gloss over that as an irrelevance, not worthy even of mention.

    Instead we have a fashionable, emotional weakness, that accounts only the needs and wishes of the immigrant. Without any insistence that there be credible controls in place, much less a corresponding benefit to the host nation.

    It is beyond stupid.

    I think what is beyond stupid is cowardly phrases such as "in the last 30 days an immigrant has committed a crime every day" that portray the irrational fear of your ilk that Europe is about to collapse from this new super crime wave brought on by all these bad eggs we've let waltz in willy nilly.

    How you attach the reasoning in your post to that ridiculous sentence from that poster is beyond me. Sounds like so long as they share your basic sentiment, they're alright in you're book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭fed up sick and tired


    I think what is beyond stupid is cowardly phrases such as "in the last 30 days an immigrant has committed a crime every day" that portray the irrational fear of your ilk that Europe is about to collapse from this new super crime wave brought on by all these bad eggs we've let waltz in willy nilly.

    About the only valid observation you make. No doubt you're unaware of that, but well done anyway.
    How you attach the reasoning in your post to that ridiculous sentence from that poster is beyond me.

    Please explain this, even though it isn't even a coherent statement.

    Bearing in mind that I made no reference to that other poster at all.
    Sounds like so long as they share your basic sentiment, they're alright in you're book.

    Just because i think people like you are silly, doesn't mean I agree with everyone else who thinks people like you are silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭CaptainInsano


    About the only valid observation you make. No doubt you're unaware of that, but well done anyway.



    Please explain this, even though it isn't even a coherent statement.

    Bearing in mind that I made no reference to that other poster at all.



    Just because i think people like you are silly, doesn't mean I agree with everyone else who thinks people like you are silly.

    I'll simplify.

    You quoted responses I made to the claim that immigrants have been committing crimes every day etc. so I assumed you were entering the debate rather than cherry picking isolated sentences for no real reason, I was wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 gar318


    I wonder how many crimes a day in Europe are committed by Europeans?

    Plenty no doubt , but how many are butchering pregnant women with machetes in Europe or slicing priests throats ?

    Just because we have crime in Europe already doesn't mean you should just swing the doors wide open and let a bunch of barbaric animals who dispise Europeans in to add to the problems now does it ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭fed up sick and tired


    I'll simplify.

    You quoted responses I made to the claim that immigrants have been committing crimes every day etc. so I assumed you were entering the debate rather than cherry picking isolated sentences for no real reason, I was wrong.

    It is not 'cherry-picking' to chose those quotes, since I'm not using them selectively to make a point.

    Rather, those quotes are the point, because of themselves they reveal what is wrong with your view of the matter.

    I'm entering the debate not on the basis of whether or not crime is up,down, or sideways due to uncontrolled immigration.

    I'm entering it on the basis that you and others are oblivious to the notion that it does matter whether or not a crime in Europe is committed by a European person who by definition has a right to be in Europe.

    When crimes are committed by other categories of people than non-Europeans, it would be idiotic not to question how that has come about, and how much that might be down to cultural incompatibility, or whatever else.

    As a result of Mutter Angela in particular, an unquantified and unchecked number of Middle Eastern or African (ie non-European) young males are here, who have no business to be here.

    Mitigating for their violent crimes in Europe by saying that we already have our own rapists and murderers, is just pathetic hand-wringing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 806 ✭✭✭getzls


    Parts of Europe has welcomed in the Trojen Horse of Islamic terrorism.
    The UK'so decision to leave the EU will save countless lives.
    Europe will burn and die.
    The same way all former and now Muslim countries have done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    "This loathsome term [Islamophobia] is nothing more than a thought-terminating cliche conceived in the bowels of Muslim think tanks for the purpose of beating down critics."

    (Abdur-Rahman Muhammad, a Washington-based African-American Muslim writer who was once the Imam of a mosque where he taught 'radical' Muslim ideology).

    "We use religion as a cover... We're saying that you can't go into our mosques, you can't look at our Muslim organizations, you can't even look at Muslims because that's to target us. But the truth is, we do have a problem in our Muslim community."

    (Asra Q. Nomani, author of 'Standing Alone: An American Woman's Struggle for the Soul of Islam').

    I found these quotes very thought -provoking in light of the ongoing spats in these threads on Boards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭LuckyRoche


    Decades of unplanned and poorly implemeted immigration going way back to Chirac are a definite component in Frances current problems. Most French people are aware of this including the Muslim population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    LuckyRoche wrote: »
    Decades of unplanned and poorly implemeted immigration going way back to Chirac are a definite component in Frances current problems. Most French people are aware of this including the Muslim population.

    Way before Chirac IMO. You can go back at least to Mitterrand and probably to Pompidou. Consequences only started to show later but the first bad decisions were made back then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭SILVAMAN


    Apart from the fact that religion is nonsense, Islam's biggest problem is that it is effectively a lifestyle and seeks to impose a way of living on all people, and to this end recommends killing anyone who resists.
    We then have the exponents of the most extreme versions of Islam seeking to foist the religion on any country they can by funding mosque building and by sending extremist Imams to head these mosques. Europe needs to shut these mosques down, remove these imams and prosecute them under every and any law possible. Funding from foreign sources must be banned, and any Imams must be approved by the state.
    Other nonsense like insisting that halal only meat be allowed in schools as has happened in almost all UK state schools must be reversed.
    Wearing the niquab in public must be outlawed and enforced.
    There is no other religion today whose members or writings and many leaders clearly seek the extermination of anyone not of that faith.
    Do we seriously want Europe to become an extension of their failed countries?
    Remember Erdogan's comment about democracy being a train one leaves once it arrives at one's destination. He's gotten off the train and is hell bent on creating an Islamic state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    The thread on the Russell Square knife attack is closed so I hope it's ok to mention it here seeing as it's about an attack ..was there witness evidence of collaborators absconding on motorbikes? someone said there was but that it has evaporated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Said I'd post in this thread since its a somewhat similar incident. Is there any thread on the murder in broad daylight of the Muslim cleric in New York? Looked through the first 2 pages of AH and saw nothing. Haven't been online that much though so may have missed it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭emo72


    also what the hell is going on in corsica today? riots over burkinis, and attacks with hatchets and harpoons? harpoons!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37077837


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