Dublin Marathon 2016 - Mentored Novices Thread

FITZA · 02-08-2016 09:30PM

kabuxa wrote: »

I am!! Some friends did it and highly recommend it as prep for marathon. I am quite excited about it.

Glubs... just read Firedance post. Oh well! I reg'ed month ago... i have to motivate myself

I'm doing it too kabuxa

I entered back in April....as Singer said they have pacers to keep you in line with your Marathon plan in mind but I really do intend to go even slower than this, I just want company on my longest run, without actually having to run with someone

paddydriver · 02-08-2016 10:56PM

rom wrote: »

FYI

From Thursday 4th

http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?id=853

Running jackets
Leggings
Gym Bag
Running tops
Shorts
Runners
Insoles
Pocket radio
Heart rate watch
Running rucksack
Vivofit Fitness armband
Running Socks
Massage Stick
Back/ankle/knee brace
Grid roller
Gels
Protein bars
Zero electrolyte tabs
Protein drinks and powder.

Not to be dismissive of the Lidl gear (from someone that has got plenty of it over the years) but its good to have some cheap warm running gear that you can take with you on the day of DCM and then dispose of it to the side at start time - better this than to have your best Under Armour gear and having to queue up to put in bag drop area etc. Now there is still the concern of something to wear afterwards but all the same maybe have a warm running jacket that you don't want to keep and hold onto it for the big day... Or you can just use a black sack with arm holes in it like many others

BTW.. strongly recommend the High5 Gel's over all others! The 20 pack in lidl on Thursday is great value.

Mrs Mc · 03-08-2016 07:04AM

rom wrote: »

Never heard anything good about them. I would recommend spending a bit on runners. Some good deals on the list.

+1 to that just got a pair of asics kayano 21 in Kildare village for 120 euros lots of selection great value considering they were 175 last year. Invest in your feet you're going to be relying on them over the next number of weeks.

kittyclaws · 03-08-2016 08:25AM

Firedance wrote: »

It's in Longwood this year. The idea of this run IS to do it at LSR pace but believe me it's hard to do that in a race environment. If you haven't signed up for it already my advice would be don't. You can practice everything you need at the HM or your 20 mile LSR which we will recommend as a 'dress rehearsal'. It's a super race, very well organised etc etc but really unless you're experienced at running races strictly to prescribed pace I'd leave it out this time.

I was thinking of doing this :eek: Mainly because it's so hard to get a good 20 mile run in that mimics race conditions - as the marathon gets closer our club starts running the marathon route but with so many roads to cross, people stopping for toilet breaks, traffic and busy streets its not ideal.
There isn't a pacer for the pace I want to run tho - so I'll be at the back of the pack as usual

I really need to practice pacing so a 20 miler on my own might not be a bad thing

Firedance · 03-08-2016 09:06AM

kittyclaws wrote: »

I was thinking of doing this Mainly because it's so hard to get a good 20 mile run in that mimics race conditions - as the marathon gets closer our club starts running the marathon route but with so many roads to cross, people stopping for toilet breaks, traffic and busy streets its not ideal.
There isn't a pacer for the pace I want to run tho - so I'll be at the back of the pack as usual I really need to practice pacing so a 20 miler on my own might not be a bad thing

Bear in mind this is only my advice

but, no matter what way you look at this its a race, a race environment and there will be people racing it.... if you have years of running behind you and many miles in your legs already you won't do any harm by taking this in, if that's not you though, and you haven't already signed up I really would give it a miss, especially if there are no pacers for your planned marathon time. No matter how slow we are, as runners we are all competitive and it's very difficult to jog around a 20 mile race when people are streaming past you (they're the ones that are not on this thread soaking up all the good advice

).

For those of you that have already signed up obviously you are going to go ahead and do it - I'll be there on the day though, watching

#keepitslow

FITZA · 03-08-2016 10:38AM

The toughest run of the six weeks so far!!! Running enemy no. 1, that dreaded wind. Just ran 10k on grass, of which the first 5k was into a head wind. Planned marathon pace!!! forget it, battled to keep as close as I could to it and I'd swear the wind changed direction as I did

Anyway run complete and I'm glad I stuck to what I'd planned to do, after all it could be like this on D day

Maximus Alexander · 03-08-2016 10:44AM

I think this week I'm experiencing the tiredness that a few others reported last week. I felt very lethargic on last night's easy run. 7 miles with 5 at PMP tonight, could be a struggle.

Bunny Colvin · 03-08-2016 11:09AM

Morning runs FTW. Great feeling getting out there when it's quiet. Shower, hydrate, breakfast and then you're ready to take on the world. It's gonna be tougher when the mornings get dark but that's what street lights are for!

Myles Splitz · 03-08-2016 11:27AM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I think this week I'm experiencing the tiredness that a few others reported last week. I felt very lethargic on last night's easy run. 7 miles with 5 at PMP tonight, could be a struggle.

Don't worry this is normal (getting it the same myself this week). Be sure to use common sense on the PMP run. If you feel you are working at two high an effort (especially in the wind today) don't be afraid to scale pace back 5-10 seconds to ensure the effort is right. Your body can't tell the difference between a 9 min and 9.30 mile, but it can certainly tell the difference between a 7/10 and a 9/10 in terms of perceived effort.

ToriV · 03-08-2016 12:30PM

FITZA wrote: »

The toughest run of the six weeks so far!!! Running enemy no. 1, that dreaded wind. Just ran 10k on grass, of which the first 5k was into a head wind. Planned marathon pace!!! forget it, battled to keep as close as I could to it and I'd swear the wind changed direction as I did Anyway run complete and I'm glad I stuck to what I'd planned to do, after all it could be like this on D day

I was out too ... All I could do was laugh at the wind. My route has ireland longest bridge on it and I swear it felt like the most exposed place today. BIt smiled and battled through and glad I did! Kept at 9.00 per miles as steady as I could. Any one got any advice for breathing effectively in wind? I keep feeling it's getting swept away from me!
Ikem

Firedance · 03-08-2016 01:16PM

ToriV wrote: »

My route has Ireland's longest bridge on it and I swear it felt like the most exposed place today.

I had to google that!!! Well done for getting through that - both of ye

jamule · 03-08-2016 02:28PM

ToriV wrote: »

I was out too ... All I could do was laugh at the wind. My route has ireland longest bridge on it and I swear it felt like the most exposed place today. BIt smiled and battled through and glad I did! Kept at 9.00 per miles as steady as I could. Any one got any advice for breathing effectively in wind? I keep feeling it's getting swept away from me!
Ikem

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ToriV · 03-08-2016 03:34PM

Firedance wrote: »

I had to google that!!! Well done for getting through that - both of ye

I have run it for over two years and I only know that cos they put a sign up last week saying so!

ToriV · 03-08-2016 03:39PM

jamule wrote: »

Did it feel like

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Haha! It sure did...and I was certainly no Good Looking Woman at the end of it!

scotindublin · 03-08-2016 07:11PM

A fairly windy 7 miles this evening from Swords to Malahide....plenty of folk out running....marathon training kicking up!

Szilvike · 03-08-2016 07:24PM

It looks like I have to take at least 7 days off running. Went to the physio today, he thinks I might have a bit of cartilage damage behind my kneecap. Gave me exercises and told me not to run and try not to even walk unless I have to, for a week. Will go back next Friday and see what he says... Also recommended to have an MRI done on my knee.

I really, really hope that the rest and the exercises will help and I can come back to you guys very soon! If I can't do the boards plan, I hope at least I can continue with the HHN1.

Happy running for the rest of the week everyone and mind your bodies!!!

Pomplamousse · 03-08-2016 07:42PM

Sorry to hear that Szilvike, hope you're on the mend quickly.

I always always dread the PMP runs for some reason, but they're never as bad as I expect, you'd think I'd have realised by now:P My first half today was against the wind which was fairly tough, but switched direction for the second half and that was so much fun. If the wind could be with us, pushing us along for the entire marathon, that'd be great please thanks.

nop98 · 03-08-2016 07:58PM

paddydriver wrote: »

Not sure where I start on this one so I will just let it flow and brain dump. I ran DLR Bay 10k this morning in place of Fingal 10k last weekend - primarily cause I have run it before and just decided to choose this one over the Fingal. I tend to be down in that area of DL a good bit too so close to home for me.

...

Antwerp wrote: »

Ok, NOP98.., no pressure on my race report, which apologies will be brief as its kinda a blur, as got a PB knocked 5mins off last year's DLR and my last 10km (Lust for Life in April 2016) so delira have forgotten exactly what happened today. ...

Brilliant reports, lads, thanks for writing it down!

nop98 · 03-08-2016 08:34PM

Szilvike wrote: »

It looks like I have to take at least 7 days off running. Went to the physio today, he thinks I might have a bit of cartilage damage behind my kneecap. Gave me exercises and told me not to run and try not to even walk unless I have to, for a week. Will go back next Friday and see what he says... Also recommended to have an MRI done on my knee.

I really, really hope that the rest and the exercises will help and I can come back to you guys very soon! If I can't do the boards plan, I hope at least I can continue with the HHN1.

Happy running for the rest of the week everyone and mind your bodies!!!

Sorry to hear that, Szilvike - keep us posted on your progress..

budhistmonk · 03-08-2016 08:42PM

kabuxa wrote: »

Does anyone know which shop I can buy Garmin charger?
I am a LITTLE bit anxious that I cant find mine for the last 3 days... This made me learn how to pair the watch with with mobile however I need to charge the watch.
Thanks a lot. Going to the park for a 10k to calm me down.

Hi Kabuxa, did you get sorted? There are several different types of garmin charger interfaces. I just got a new forerunner 610 which is different to my old one which was the FR 110. So I have a spare 110 charger (a fiddly clip not unlike a clothes peg) as my 110 is dead. I am guessing since you talk about pairing with mobile you have a different watch with a different charger interface. If the 110 charger is any use to you id be happy to give it to you. If not then maybe try eBay. Let me know. I'm going on hols on Friday early put could stick in the post to you tomorrow if it was of use.

The Muppet · 03-08-2016 10:20PM

Got my 7 miles with 5 @pmp in this evening .

Breezy evening but very happy with the run

kin9pin · 03-08-2016 10:30PM

Funny one this morning on my PMP. I ran without glasses, just before sunrise. After the 1m warmup I started increasing speed and only focused on the seconds on my watch, couldn't make out the minute.
Saw *:45 so ran faster, *:25 so ran faster and wondered why I felt I was pushing so hard for 9 minute pace. Finally focused after half a mile and I was running at 8:15! The next 4.5 miles were a breeze after that!
I really don't know why I didn't trust my body. I knew I was running too fast, but it just didn't click.

The Muppet · 04-08-2016 05:24AM

Szilvike wrote: »

It looks like I have to take at least 7 days off running. Went to the physio today, he thinks I might have a bit of cartilage damage behind my kneecap. Gave me exercises and told me not to run and try not to even walk unless I have to, for a week. Will go back next Friday and see what he says... Also recommended to have an MRI done on my knee.

I really, really hope that the rest and the exercises will help and I can come back to you guys very soon! If I can't do the boards plan, I hope at least I can continue with the HHN1.

Happy running for the rest of the week everyone and mind your bodies!!!

Sorry to hear that Szilvike. I hope it's nothing too serious and that you're back on track after a liitle rest.

kabuxa · 04-08-2016 09:28AM

budhistmonk wrote:

Hi Kabuxa, did you get sorted? There are several different types of garmin charger interfaces. I just got a new forerunner 610 which is different to my old one which was the FR 110. So I have a spare 110 charger (a fiddly clip not unlike a clothes peg) as my 110 is dead. I am guessing since you talk about pairing with mobile you have a different watch with a different charger interface. If the 110 charger is any use to you id be happy to give it to you. If not then maybe try eBay. Let me know. I'm going on hols on Friday early put could stick in the post to you tomorrow if it was of use.

Budhistmonk... I found it but Thank you so so much! I thought I posted afterwards, but maybe I didnt.. I have a 225... and I do think it is a nightmare they are all different and the fact that we need to order them... but i really appreciate your offer! Enjoy the holidays!!

kabuxa · 04-08-2016 09:29AM

@Szilvike sorry to hear that. Rest will do you good and you will come back stronger!!!

tony1980 · 04-08-2016 09:43AM

Sorry to hear that Szilvike, hopefully you get it resolved soon.

FITZA · 04-08-2016 10:05AM

Szilvike wrote: »

It looks like I have to take at least 7 days off running. Went to the physio today, he thinks I might have a bit of cartilage damage behind my kneecap. Gave me exercises and told me not to run and try not to even walk unless I have to, for a week. Will go back next Friday and see what he says... Also recommended to have an MRI done on my knee.

I really, really hope that the rest and the exercises will help and I can come back to you guys very soon! If I can't do the boards plan, I hope at least I can continue with the HHN1.

Happy running for the rest of the week everyone and mind your bodies!!!

Hope you get good news next Friday and you'll be back pounding the roads very soon.

The Muppet · 04-08-2016 10:30AM

just wondering what the consensus is re fueling on the longer lsrs in the weeks ahead.

I've been experimenting on my lsrs with gels etc for a number of weeks now and I'm reasonably sure about what I will be doing on the big day.

Problem is I'm now sorta used to taking on fuel every half hour or so on the long runs , my feeling is this is too much in training. Should I not fuel and let the body do its thing with fat :eek:, fuel less or continue as is? Which of those options will best prepare me for Marathon Day?

kittyclaws · 04-08-2016 10:32AM

Szilvike rest up and take care, a week isn't too bad - I felt great when I cam back after a couple of days rest

Weird one - I keep getting a dead leg when I run.. It happened last week and I took 4 days off running. Done my 14 mile LSR on Monday no probs. Last night I got the pain again almost as soon as I started running, when I'd stop and stretch it would stop for a while and then gradually return. I done 6 miles - it was more annoying than painful.
I Googled today and it looks like either a pulled tendon or a trapped nerve - has anyone any experience of this?
I've emailed my physio so waiting to hear back from her too, I really want to do the R&R half this weekend, but will follow her orders.

I need to find a flatter training route, I don't think running hills and trails is doing me much good for marathon training.

jameshayes · 04-08-2016 10:41AM

kittyclaws wrote: »

I really want to do the R&R half this weekend, but will follow her orders.

I need to find a flatter training route, I don't think running hills and trails is doing me much good for marathon training.

well the R&R has an incline of 222 meters which wont help with that!! :eek:

Dublin Marathon 2016 - Mentored Novices Thread

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