Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

Chain Smoker · 28-07-2016 08:35PM

Yep, I do think Nintendo are more than capable of adapting and advancing into the future. The chances of them doing a Sega and making f*ck all of merit post-Dreamcast seems extremely slim and their whole approach towards making games makes it seem quite unlikely that switching to software only would have that big of an impact creatively.

...but it could be a colossal morale killer

MilesMorales1 · 28-07-2016 08:38PM

I think it'll take a few more big failures for Nintendo to even consider going third party. Not by 2019.

Chain Smoker · 28-07-2016 11:12PM

Oh yeah, honestly a hybrid machine with the full weight of Nintendo's developers behind it should easily survive with that approach for one generation at least. Unless piracy f*cks them.

ERG89 · 28-07-2016 11:45PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Nintendo continue to make a lot of money with their handhelds,

Are they not risking their handheld market with this all in one system?
I mean 3DS is at the end of its cycle after next March, this is basically its successor no?
To me there was so many great games on the DS/3DS that could have done with a home console title. Mario & Luigi, Phoenix Wright, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem, Professor Layton and others.

MilesMorales1 · 29-07-2016 12:13AM

Half those games there have always been portable though. Or tried home console versions that sold poorly, like fire emblem. We didn't even get a 3DS advance wars.

Andrew76 · 29-07-2016 07:40AM

Chain Smoker wrote: »

Don't really get people saying they need to make a powerhouse of a machine, they've absolutely no hope of competing in that regard and will always be playing catch up.

Not necessarily a powerhouse, just comparable to the XB1/PS4 coupled with similar architecture - to make it more attractive for 3rd party devs so we're not left with a machine with a short lifespan. Neither of them are powerhouses anyway.
But Star Lord's posts above seem to suggest we might get both of those which would be great.

Star Lord · 29-07-2016 07:58AM

Based on the rumours at least! Only time will tell.
But it'll be a little like the Wii U power wise again, given that the PS4/XB1 will be releasing slightly updated versions, it'll be a little behind, but being around the XB1 level should be enough to have the playing field levelled somewhat.

I genuinely don't think Nintendo have gotten over their disappointment in leading the field with the GameCube only to have it sell so poorly, and are reluctant to try to have the most powerful console again.

CiDeRmAn · 29-07-2016 08:58AM

Here's a thing...
Assuming this is going to somehow replace the 3DS as well.
Will this be 3D capable, if it is indeed a portable console with a home dock thingy.
Will there be backwards compatibility with the 3DS/DS?
Nintendo have always been pretty good at making their new hardware play nice with the software from the previous gen.

And while we're at it,
The WiiU...
Software at least.
Assuming, once again, this docks with a, well, dock.
How about the combo of primary device screen and tv now connected makes it just waiting to play dual screen WiiU titles.

Plus, big guess again, if they put the hdd in the dock...
Preload your big games from storage, play them on the go.

That_Guy · 29-07-2016 09:17AM

If this is indeed a handheld/home console hybrid, I wonder how big this thing will actually be.

Is it a handheld designed to free up a TV a la the Wii U Gamepad for use within the house? Or is it going to be able to be used for both home and when you're out and about?

I doubt it's going to be able to fit into my pocket. I imagine it'll be similar to a tablet.

I'm not yet sold on the premise of the design. As for specs, I honestly don't mind if they're nowhere near the power of Xbox One or PS4. I have both already so that need is filled.

I'm curious about the design and controllers though. If it's motion control again, I may have to pass. I enjoy Nintendo's alternative gaming experiences but motion controls are gimmicky and have been done to death at this stage.

I'm hoping this is revealed sooner rather than later because my interest is waning at a rapid rate.

Andrew76 · 29-07-2016 09:25AM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Here's a thing...
Assuming this is going to somehow replace the 3DS as well.
Will this be 3D capable, if it is indeed a portable console with a home dock thingy.
Will there be backwards compatibility with the 3DS/DS?
Nintendo have always been pretty good at making their new hardware play nice with the software from the previous gen.

And while we're at it,
The WiiU...
Software at least.
Assuming, once again, this docks with a, well, dock.
How about the combo of primary device screen and tv now connected makes it just waiting to play dual screen WiiU titles.

Plus, big guess again, if they put the hdd in the dock...
Preload your big games from storage, play them on the go.

I thought I read it wasn't going to be backwards compatible with Wii-U? That's fine by me anyway.

If it can play 3DS games so be it but I doubt it would support 3D. They've already shown they can release a device to play 3DS games without 3D and honestly, who actually uses the 3D? It was a nice gimick but no need to waste money & resources keeping it for the next machine.

CiDeRmAn · 29-07-2016 09:26AM

I use the 3D

Bugger, am I the only one?

Truthfully though it's only a few that use it well, the two Kirby titles standout, and the likes of Space Harrier, Galaxy Force 2 and Outrun in the 3D Classics.

riclad · 29-07-2016 09:34AM

Since they using games on cartridge piracy should not be a problem,
if they are running an eshop digital download on the nx it,ll have drm.
I wonder what battery life will be like on such a powerful system .
This is a handheld unit that plugs into a tv.
Sony makes a non mobile unit that plugs into a tv to play psvita games , PSTV
there could be be a non mobile version of the nx if the console sells well.
I think this uses a new cpu and a new graphics card it,s unlikely that,ll run 3ds games .it could have a hardrive .
I dont think 32gig cartridges are a problem ,apart from its expensive for companys to make them. A dvd disc only costs around 50cent to make.
.
http://gearburn.com/2014/12/playstation-tv-review/
i don,t think theres much piracy on wi u games.
as above the nx dock could have a 500gig drive in it.
to store and play games from the eshop.
I hope they drop motion controllers,
this puts off hardcore gamers and is awkward.
motion control is like 3dtv ,a fad thats past its time.

Star Lord · 29-07-2016 10:10AM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I use the 3D
Bugger, am I the only one?

Truthfully though it's only a few that use it well, the two Kirby titles standout, and the likes of Space Harrier, Galaxy Force 2 and Outrun in the 3D Classics.

I use the 3D for the majority of my 3DS games, really helps judging the swings in Monster Hunter too!

pasta-solo · 29-07-2016 10:12AM

riclad wrote: »

Since they using games on cartridge piracy should not be a problem

Tell that to the DS!

MilesMorales1 · 29-07-2016 10:28AM

Ugh, I hate using the 3D. Can't remember the last time I used it, maybe for those rooms in Mario 3D land with the star coins and the boxes.

Retr0gamer · 29-07-2016 02:40PM

pasta-solo wrote: »

Tell that to the DS!

That had nothing to do with the cartridges though and more to do with the security holes in the operating system.

Corholio · 29-07-2016 02:44PM

I use the 3D a lot but I can see why people don't. Much like the Gamepad, it's really good ideas not subsequently taken advantage of or utilised anywhere near enough as it should have been. When you see the 3D in the new Kirby and great it is, it seems a waste that it wasn't used properly for long spells of releases.

riclad · 29-07-2016 07:26PM

So they are aiming at the handheld market ,and nintendo fans,
Casual gamers ,cod players ,fifa players, won,t buy a nx ,they,ll buy an xbox or a ps4.
They are effectively out of the console market,
theres only room for 2 ,xbox and ps4.

CiDeRmAn · 29-07-2016 11:38PM

There's room for however many are good enough.
And it varies from region to region.
Once we had the MD and SNES
Then the PS, Saturn and N64
Later the PS2, Xbox and GC
Then the PS3, 360 and Wii

Xbox have sold in the US and EU but it sold bugger all in Japan and Asia.
The GC may not have sold like the PS but it still sold a lot, and did well in Japan.
The 360 sold feck all in Japan too.

Essentially, as Retr0 says, the console is on a slide downhill in sales in Japan, but the NX could well turn it around.
It'll depend on the content but given the popularity of 3DS content there, the NX could have a ready made market for a compact console that serves a dual purpose.

riclad · 30-07-2016 02:25PM

From The info on eurogamer ,its a handheld unit that plugs into a tv dock.
I Don,t regard it as a console ,i don,t think its aimed at competing with the ps4 or xbox 1.
it,ll be bought by nintendo fans and people who want a new handheld unit.
mobile gaming is big in japan and asia ,where xbox sales are very low.
its like a cheaper version of a pc tablet,
Theres tablets that can run x86 pc games but they are like 500 euro plus.Maybe if it sells millions third part companys like ea will put games on it ,or it could end up like the wii u,
A system for jrpg and nintendo games .
The japanese prefer to support asian companys, sony, nintendo when it comes to buying consoles .

CiDeRmAn · 30-07-2016 05:01PM

Well, we'll know soon enough.
An official announcement and reveal can only be less than 8 weeks away, probably even sooner.
And then, regardless of the formats form, I'll be saving my pennies for launch day.
It'll hopefully be a happy St Patrick's Day!

That_Guy · 31-07-2016 09:06AM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Well, we'll know soon enough.
An official announcement and reveal can only be less than 8 weeks away, probably even sooner.
And then, regardless of the formats form, I'll be saving my pennies for launch day.
It'll hopefully be a happy St Patrick's Day!

Give me some of your optimism!!!

I'm usually excited about new hardware and I'm excited for Zelda but as I've said before, my interest went from "OH MY GOD!!!!" to "meh".

At this stage, I need to see it. The various articles speculating about what it is are giving me a skewed image I've created in my own head.

CiDeRmAn · 31-07-2016 09:19AM

Edge magazine did a great preview on the new Zelda title, that should reignite your enthusiasm for the NX and what it might bring, assuming the already gorgeous game will be even better on the new hardware.

ShadowHearth · 31-07-2016 04:02PM

So it's pretty much handheld with HDMI output for TV.
Don't know, I like it. If they will have 3ds like rpgs, monster hunter, fire emblem, advanced wars etc, then I am on board.

My gaming right now is between pc and n3DS xl. Xbox one and ps4 have a good inch on dust on them.
So new Nintendo for me as handheld and all my other gaming on pc. Win win.

CiDeRmAn · 31-07-2016 04:48PM

I'm the opposite.
I've no time for handheld gaming, but find myself using the PS4 more than ever.
Even the WiiU doesn't get used by me much, aside from the other evening and an hour or so on StarFox.
The poor XB1 though, a glorified paper weight at this stage.

Andrew76 · 31-07-2016 06:24PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I'm the opposite.
I've no time for handheld gaming, but find myself using the PS4 more than ever.
Even the WiiU doesn't get used by me much, aside from the other evening and an hour or so on StarFox.
The poor XB1 though, a glorified paper weight at this stage.

PS4 getting a lot of time in this house also, mainly The Witcher 3, Shovel Knight and Rachet & Clank (what a fun game that is!).

Just watched the below Digital Foundry video of them seeing how well the Tegra X1 chip handles emulating Gamecube & Wii games - just as a test. On the assumption NX will be running an X1 inside (but not Android obviously). Would be nice if was an X2 but maybe too late for that now. Doesn't do too badly at all and you can imagine Nintendo would get more out of the Tegra chip whichever one it ends up being.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdHM8AIhvw

Pac1Man · 31-07-2016 08:01PM

After the rumor dust has settled, I'm glad it's not a super console. What good would it be to mimic the other two? I'd rather have something weird and left field to accompany the conventional console. Who knows what we'll see?

The predicted lack of third party support should not matter to anyone with a PS4/XB1/PC. I don't understand why this is an issue? I doubt anyone here works for Nintendo so I don't see how the lack of this support will affect any one of us here except those who only purchase Nintendo, in which case you know what you're getting into at this stage.

Let's just enjoy what's coming from a pure gaming perspective.

tony1980 · 31-07-2016 08:08PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I'm the opposite.
I've no time for handheld gaming, but find myself using the PS4 more than ever.
Even the WiiU doesn't get used by me much, aside from the other evening and an hour or so on StarFox.
The poor XB1 though, a glorified paper weight at this stage.

I'm going the opposite way of yourself lately and using the handheld about 90% of the time. This is partly due to my son starting to get interested in gaming so I have introduced him to Mario and Zelda so I have been having a lot of fun with him using the 3DS.

I have a huge backlog on the Xbox and PC but just can't find the time to get to them. I can see us picking up the NX when it comes out so myself and my son can play some games together so I am really looking forward to the reveal.
I am even thinking of picking up a new 3DS for myself as he is using the other one a lot more during the summer holidays and I have a 2 hour return journey commute for work each day where it will get a lot of use but I might wait for the NX reveal first.

CiDeRmAn · 31-07-2016 10:21PM

The 3DS XL is a pretty cost effective way to play 99.9% of DS and 3DS titles in exist, €120, and you can still look forward to the release of the NX next year.

riclad · 01-08-2016 11:07AM

It would be nice if the dock slot for a har drive
eg open slot put in 500gig sata drive ,like as in the ps3.
The user can just put in a standard drive for storing music, video, games .
It would be nice if the nx had a youtube and a browser app and a music mp3 player built in.
of Course nintendo is not noted for doing things in a simple straight forward
way .
i think theres very few women or young people who work in the management of nintendo.

Provide cheap storage ,people will then buy more games.

Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

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