Hostage situation in French church

How are the bullets dipped in pig's blood working out for y'all so.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-men-train-to-shoot-muslims-and-dip-bullets-in-pig-blood-so-victims-go-straight-to-hell-a7053086.html

Simulated Reality wrote: »

I was thinking, is there a way to desecrate Muslim corpses so they won't get into heaven? Maybe pour pigs blood over them?

There might be a lot less attacks if Jihadists knew this was going to happen.

You probably haven't thought this through.

If you don't believe in the Muslim heaven then what difference is the pig's blood gonna make?

Stealthfins wrote: »

Persians are a great people,they're definitely more progressive than the head chopping wahabbis.

Persians human rights my not be on the same level with ours,but I'd rather be in Iran than Saudi.

Shia Islam is more mystical and tolerant of other religions than the Sunnis.

There's lots of Jew's and Christians living in Persia (Iran)
They're people of the book.

Do you cream yourself about the Persians even when they're shouting "Death to America", "Death to the Jews," like they do every Friday.

Moo Moo Land wrote: »

I think the whole thing is a nonsense, the heaven, the virgins etc

But I am not going to somehow validate their belief by looking for some process or override switch to prevent it. That's nuts.

I don't think they would be further motivated if they thought whoever undertook this hypothetical symbolic action actually believed in the suicide bombers paradise. I think it could be made quite clear .

It's not validation of their belief . They already know that everyone knows what they believe, and making some kind of symbolic gesture that would, to their mind, interfere with their perceived progression after death isn't a statement of belief .

Psychological tactics could be very effective at a time when only a defensive strategy is possible and traditional warfare isn't possible and there's no course of military action that can be taken , as with two armies on a battlefield .

I'm not aware of anything that would fit the bill, though . I have no intention of reading the link about pig-blood bullets so I will make a guess . It was something someone did out of malice instead of a prophylactic warning/deterrent/disincentive ?

Moo Moo Land wrote: »

Yeah but I would like to change the martyrdom mindset pre-mortem.

Desecrating bodies as a solution...I know we're brainstorming but wow.

The thing is education or reform is going to take time and we also need a strategy for the immediate threats .

Widdershins wrote: »

The thing is education or reform is going to take time and we also need a strategy for the immediate threats .

Bombing them back to the stoneage has so far failed ,
Occupation of their lands or countries so far failed ,
Detaining them without trial has so far failed

Only thing that's currently working is mass hysteria in the media ,

Widdershins wrote: »

maybe you should stop reading the mail.

Never have ,

Tell us more about the Italians

end of the road wrote: »

have we blamed ourselves for non-integration? if we have that's news to me. i certainly haven't blamed myself, as i'm not to blame for someone else.

Yes there are people in Europe who are claiming that the fault of non integration is down to the native populations.
They haven't been accommodating enough according to some.
BTW you damn well know it so stop feigning ignorance.

end of the road wrote: »

can't be done, human rights are human rights and are equal.

You just don't get it.
Did the Americans consider the human rights of Japanese citizens the same as the human rights of non Japanese citizens during WWII ?

end of the road wrote: »

putting laws asside is terrorism and extremism so any attempt to do it must be faught against. human rights and freedom are more important then non protection from the government.

Putting laws aside has been done by major democracies at various times of emergency.
The human right and freedom to be slaughtered must be protected at all times. :rolleyes:

end of the road wrote: »

well you should care. if you want to sign away your freedoms and human rights, that's fine. but do it somewhere else. i'm sure more and more gullible are starting to have your point of view, but rightly they will be scoffed at. freedom tolerence and democracy will win over extremism whether it be far right, far left, or religious. you and your views won't win. extremists won't win.

So basically you are saying I am extremist because I want ISIS members, ISIS supporters and ISIS associates locked up ?
Would you have considered people in Ireland extremists when they wanted PIRA, INLA members locked up ?

And because I want uncontrolled migration from muslim world stopped I am extremist.
Jaysus then most of Australia must be extremist as well.

Simulated Reality wrote: »

None to me but it makes a huge difference to the fanatic who believes dying for ISIS will bring him to his eternal reward. Not sure why there is confusion over this tbh.

Listen it is the usual shyteology engaged in by some, claiming ignorance of what you are saying.
It is like the usual trend of demanding stats, verifiable links for poll assertions or population breakdowns.
Then when they are given the next step is to question the source and if the source is not seen as a right wing (Breitbard, Jihadi watch, Daily whatever, etc), the actual methodology is then questioned.

Oh and the other thing the same posters do is use offical figures (ala UN, Europol) to claim such things as non muslim terrorism/crime is much worse because there are far greater number of non muslim crimes/attacks or would be attacks.
They usually neglect to actually show the number of crimes per capita and they definitely neglect to show the number of deaths/serious casualties for the terrorist attacks over the last 15 years.
They usually try and break it down to the last 40 years to make it less obvious.

It is cherry picking to suit the argument.