Eir rural FTTH thread

long_b · 21-07-2016 05:02PM

ED E wrote: »

That makes sense, the real live date is 1mo before the live "we can sell it" date so the APQ files would be updated 1mo before you order.

Funnily enough that's the exact opposite of Imagine

BandMember · 21-07-2016 05:06PM

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

I do use that site for checking the status of cabs but it doesn't give an estimated speed of a line does it?

No, that would be the line checker site that has also been mentioned on numerous occasions.... http://www.digiweb.ie/line-checker/ http://business.digiweb.ie/linechecker/

MiskyBoyy · 21-07-2016 05:10PM

BandMember wrote:

No, that would be the line checker site that has also been mentioned on numerous occasions....

I'm also aware of that but if I have no landline number I can use the eir site using address only. Is there a similar alternative where I can check without landline number?

BandMember · 21-07-2016 05:13PM

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

I'm also aware of that but if I have no landline number I can use the eir site using address only. Is there a similar alternative where I can check without landline number?

I think what most people do is check their neighbours number if they don't have one themselves. There is another number that you can enter it, like a UAN or something, but I can't remember exactly at the moment I'm afraid...

ED E · 21-07-2016 06:10PM

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

I'm also aware of that but if I have no landline number I can use the eir site using address only. Is there a similar alternative where I can check without landline number?

If you don't have an active line then nobody knows what you'll get, it'd be pure guesswork.

Shyboy · 24-07-2016 03:14PM

So, while I was at work on Friday, my wife woke to see a number of KN vans parked up and down the road in our village (which is due for FTTH from Autumn this year).

One was parked outside our house digging around the telegraph pole, so my wife casually asked what they were working on? The friendly KN worker said we are working on bringing fibre to your area, and my wife not being technically minded, left it at that (wish I was there to quiz him more...:()

They were gone by the time I arrived home but I took a look at the pole outside the house and see that they have marked the road pointing towards where they dug the hole next to the pole. They seem to be indicating something for maybe the next team from KN??

Also, they have inscribed something into the wood of the pole. I have attached a couple of photos, so maybe someone can figure out what it all means?

They seem to have done the same thing to most of the poles in the village..

https://goo.gl/photos/i3YuBuW3sBv1o3cE8

https://goo.gl/photos/DbGaEAQsfF1ZqvQm7

MiskyBoyy · 24-07-2016 03:19PM

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Shyboy wrote: »

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Also, they have inscribed something into the wood of the pole. I have attached a couple of photos, so maybe someone can figure out what it all means? They seem to have done the same thing to most of the poles in the village..

tsue921i8wljb3 · 24-07-2016 03:33PM

Shyboy wrote: »

So, while I was at work on Friday, my wife woke to see a number of KN vans parked up and down the road in our village (which is due for FTTH from Autumn this year).

One was parked outside our house digging around the telegraph pole, so my wife casually asked what they were working on? The friendly KN worker said we are working on bringing fibre to your area, and my wife not being technically minded, left it at that (wish I was there to quiz him more...:()

They were gone by the time I arrived home but I took a look at the pole outside the house and see that they have marked the road pointing towards where they dug the hole next to the pole. They seem to be indicating something for maybe the next team from KN??

Also, they have inscribed something into the wood of the pole. I have attached a couple of photos, so maybe someone can figure out what it all means? They seem to have done the same thing to most of the poles in the village..

https://goo.gl/photos/i3YuBuW3sBv1o3cE8

https://goo.gl/photos/DbGaEAQsfF1ZqvQm7

I don't think that the inscription is fresh. They also appear in poles in my area and have done for several years. The BLK may refer to a blockage perhaps. The silver metal along the pole holds ducting or cable running underground.

chickey · 25-07-2016 09:08PM

had installer around today who said floorboards would have to come up to get fibre cable into house through duct underneath, early 1970s house. the phone line coming through a board - might it possible to cut out bit of floor board rather than have to take them up? not 100% if need the hassle of having floor boards taken up or even how much is involved with that

installer talking about coming back fri but might put him off bit longer as will need to line up someone to sort floor. anyone any experience of this?

ED E · 25-07-2016 10:37PM

Old nailed down boards should be easy to jimmy up for a few minutes, modern locking laminates that "float" would be a bit more labor intensive.

pegasus1 · 26-07-2016 10:55AM

ED E wrote: »

Old nailed down boards should be easy to jimmy up for a few minutes, modern locking laminates that "float" would be a bit more labor intensive.

A floating floor is way easier to lift, just remove the skirting board on the side where the last of the floor was installedand then using a sucker device remove the floor, but then the floorboards underneath will have to be removed as well but can be done more quickly as it is hidden...
with t+e flooring just remove 1 or 2 lengths in the area where the ducting will be brought in underneath...just cut along the groove on both sides of the board for the full length, or if he only needs a small gap, the cut along the groove say a foot and cut across the board...take note their may be electric cables and water piping and may be a gas line under there too...
You need someone good at diy at least to do it, as you can really mess the floor up...
P.S. lucky you chickey!

chickey · 26-07-2016 12:01PM

Thanks for replies, not sure what exactly he needs in terms of access, suppose to see the pipe duct, looking at boards looks like they will prob cooperate easily enough with someone with the right know-how and tools - don't have gas but certainly could be cables or water under them

MiskyBoyy · 26-07-2016 01:36PM

Anyone any idea what to do here. My local village has just 2 VDSL cabs. 1 in the exchange itself, the other at the far end of the village near all the housing estates.

The exchange one was fibre enabled last year which I got connected to (being closer to that) and have a solid 40/10 since. I then switched my Mother's house over to fibre when it was available to do at the start of this year. They processed the order but because the cab (by the estates) wasn't fibre enabled yet they connected her to what seemed like the exchange over 1km away. She actually dropped in speed from the ADSL she had but gained the better ping.

Now last week the cab (by estates) was finally fibre enabled so I contacted vodafone asking to be switched over to that. I just got a reply now saying this:

"Hi there,

I have received confirmation that unfortunately this request is not possible, as you would be assigned to your that cabinet with a specific port. For this reason we cannot move your line to a different cabinet.

Apologies."

Is there anything I can do? Would this be the final answer?

ECO_Mental · 26-07-2016 02:24PM

chickey wrote: »

had installer around today who said floorboards would have to come up to get fibre cable into house through duct underneath, early 1970s house. the phone line coming through a board - might it possible to cut out bit of floor board rather than have to take them up? not 100% if need the hassle of having floor boards taken up or even how much is involved with that

installer talking about coming back fri but might put him off bit longer as will need to line up someone to sort floor. anyone any experience of this?

Taking the floor boards up might be the least of your problems, you might have to break out the concrete floor as well to find the end of the ducting. Thats what I had to do and I live in a ten year old house.

ED E · 26-07-2016 02:41PM

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Anyone any idea what to do here. My local village has just 2 VDSL cabs. 1 in the exchange itself, the other at the far end of the village near all the housing estates.

The exchange one was fibre enabled last year which I got connected to (being closer to that) and have a solid 40/10 since. I then switched my Mother's house over to fibre when it was available to do at the start of this year. They processed the order but because the cab (by the estates) wasn't fibre enabled yet they connected her to what seemed like the exchange over 1km away. She actually dropped in speed from the ADSL she had but gained the better ping.

Now last week the cab (by estates) was finally fibre enabled so I contacted vodafone asking to be switched over to that. I just got a reply now saying this:

"Hi there,

I have received confirmation that unfortunately this request is not possible, as you would be assigned to your that cabinet with a specific port. For this reason we cannot move your line to a different cabinet.

Apologies."

Is there anything I can do? Would this be the final answer?

Its direct fed, there's no way for a line to be moved. You can always go back to ADSL.

MiskyBoyy · 26-07-2016 02:51PM

What's the purpose of the VDSL cab for practically sitting outside her house. Just for new connection? Currently with Vodafone but if she was to switch to say eir and they put it through as a new order would she be connected to the cab right beside her?

chickey · 26-07-2016 03:21PM

bit of a worry and wouldn't be surprised - be starting to look less worthwhile then, waiting for siro might be better option

guil · 26-07-2016 05:30PM

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Anyone any idea what to do here. My local village has just 2 VDSL cabs. 1 in the exchange itself, the other at the far end of the village near all the housing estates.

The exchange one was fibre enabled last year which I got connected to (being closer to that) and have a solid 40/10 since. I then switched my Mother's house over to fibre when it was available to do at the start of this year. They processed the order but because the cab (by the estates) wasn't fibre enabled yet they connected her to what seemed like the exchange over 1km away. She actually dropped in speed from the ADSL she had but gained the better ping.

Now last week the cab (by estates) was finally fibre enabled so I contacted vodafone asking to be switched over to that. I just got a reply now saying this:

"Hi there,

I have received confirmation that unfortunately this request is not possible, as you would be assigned to your that cabinet with a specific port. For this reason we cannot move your line to a different cabinet.

Apologies."

Is there anything I can do? Would this be the final answer?

You said Vodafone moved you before when you requested so did you raise that with them?

MiskyBoyy · 26-07-2016 06:10PM

guil wrote: »

You said Vodafone moved you before when you requested so did you raise that with them?

I guess I was just lucky that 1 time, ffs

kevinbad2010 · 26-07-2016 07:41PM

What's the green line on fibrerollout. ie never seen it before I believe is it FTTH?

daraghwal · 26-07-2016 07:48PM

kevinbad2010 wrote: »

What's the green line on fibrerollout. ie never seen it before I believe is it FTTH?

Local authority boundaries

ED E · 26-07-2016 10:08PM

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

What's the purpose of the VDSL cab for practically sitting outside her house. Just for new connection? Currently with Vodafone but if she was to switch to say eir and they put it through as a new order would she be connected to the cab right beside her?

Its all the same on the wholesale side.

Her house probably predates the copper cab next to the new one.

ED E · 26-07-2016 11:16PM

Build team out in Woodtown Way and the surrounds today. Its on the way up the Dublin mountains just south of the '50. Interesting to see some areas on the southside other than SND getting under way.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 27-07-2016 03:17PM

ED E wrote: »

Build team out in Woodtown Way and the surrounds today. Its on the way up the Dublin mountains just south of the '50. Interesting to see some areas on the southside other than SND getting under way.

Seems to be mostly underground. Were they actually blowing fibre? Was it KN or openeir themselves? It's part of the Ballyboden exchange right? If so it has a go live date of Autumn/Winter.

fergus1001 · 27-07-2016 03:56PM

MiskyBoyy wrote:

I guess I was just lucky that 1 time, ffs

Request a newline to be installed, port over your old number to new line, cancel old line, tell installer that you want to be connected to the nearest cab

Done.

ED E · 27-07-2016 04:02PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Seems to be mostly underground. Were they actually blowing fibre? Was it KN or openeir themselves? It's part of the Ballyboden exchange right? If so it has a go live date of Autumn/Winter.

Lads I saw were working UG with a tent up. Didnt see much. At least 4x OpenEir, no sign of KNN.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 27-07-2016 04:26PM

ED E wrote: »

Lads I saw were working UG with a tent up. Didnt see much. At least 4x OpenEir, no sign of KNN.

Good to see some movement anyway.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 29-07-2016 11:14PM

Falcon L wrote: »

I live on one of the blue lines, fed by an overhead poly route. I noticed recently that all the poles on the route have been cleaned off at the base and a bar code plate attached to each one. Anything that has a dropwire coming off it has a big red D plate as well.

I wonder is this part of the rollout, or am I just going to wake up as normal in the morning and realise it was all a dream.

Does anybody have any more information about what these D plates mean? They are pieces of metal nailed to certain poles. I had initially thought that what Falcon said about them being drop points was correct.

However I was in an area today that is due for FTTH in Winter. Along a certain road there are four houses. The first pole has two overhead drop wires feeding the first two houses. No D on the pole. The next pole is feeding a single house through ducting. There is a D on this pole. The last pole is feeding a single house overhead. It also has a D.

I suppose they could be consolidating drop points but in the case of this road it would make no sense. There is a massive tree between the second pole and the first two houses that they would have to string fibre through.

If anyone has a contact in KN or sees a person putting up these plates it woild be interesting to get some more information.

Gonzo do all the poles in your area with overhead drops have D plates?

Machinehead · 01-08-2016 11:20AM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Does anybody have any more information about what these D plates mean? They are pieces of metal nailed to certain poles. I had initially thought that what Falcon said about them being drop points was correct.

However I was in an area today that is due for FTTH in Winter. Along a certain road there are four houses. The first pole has two overhead drop wires feeding the first two houses. No D on the pole. The next pole is feeding a single house through ducting. There is a D on this pole. The last pole is feeding a single house overhead. It also has a D.

I suppose they could be consolidating drop points but in the case of this road it would make no sense. There is a massive tree between the second pole and the first two houses that they would have to string fibre through.

If anyone has a contact in KN or sees a person putting up these plates it woild be interesting to get some more information.

Gonzo do all the poles in your area with overhead drops have D plates?

AFIK poles with 'D' plates are designated for replacement along with the FTTH rollout. I have one right next to my house & when the guy from Eir was around a few months ago he said that all poles were being checked along with the rollout. The pole near me had a large crack running almost half it's length & had the 'D' plate attached denoting that it needs replacing. He went on to say that rolling out the new FTTH on week or damaged poles would be stupid as the fibre cable is much heavier & that Eir are taking this opportunity to check the entire network for any damage.

Falcon L · 01-08-2016 11:25AM

Machinehead wrote: »

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Does anybody have any more information about what these D plates mean? They are pieces of metal nailed to certain poles. I had initially thought that what Falcon said about them being drop points was correct.

However I was in an area today that is due for FTTH in Winter. Along a certain road there are four houses. The first pole has two overhead drop wires feeding the first two houses. No D on the pole. The next pole is feeding a single house through ducting. There is a D on this pole. The last pole is feeding a single house overhead. It also has a D.

I suppose they could be consolidating drop points but in the case of this road it would make no sense. There is a massive tree between the second pole and the first two houses that they would have to string fibre through.

If anyone has a contact in KN or sees a person putting up these plates it woild be interesting to get some more information.

Gonzo do all the poles in your area with overhead drops have D plates?

AFIK poles with 'D' plates are designated for replacement along with the FTTH rollout. I have one right next to my house & when the guy from Eir was around a few months ago he said that all poles were being checked along with the rollout. The pole near me had a large crack running almost half it's length & had the 'D' plate attached denoting that it needs replacing. He went on to say that rolling out the new FTTH on week or damaged poles would be stupid as the fibre cable is much heavier & that Eir are taking this opportunity to check the entire network for any damage.

That would make sense alright. The D standing for dangerous.

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