Explosion in bar in Ansbach, Germany

Mr. CooL ICE · 25-07-2016 03:38PM

Oh, and language like the following is very un pleasand to read.

Bambi wrote: »

Islam is fairly heavy on the ould misogyny with the rapeyness and acid throwing and what not.

If you can't make your point without resorting to this type of language, maybe don't post at all.

Arne_Saknussem · 25-07-2016 03:39PM

The majority of the refugees 51.1% are under the age of 17....kids,

In places like Germany and Sweden children under the age of 17 are fast tracked through the system and given immediate housing and weekly cash amounts allocated.

Here's a picture of 14 year old Saad Alsaud:

https://foramerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/refugee-e1454098631437.jpg

And he's some other 'kids':

http://nteb.mudflowermedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/muslim-migrant-men-pretending-to-be-children-phony-refugees-islam-jihad-933x445.jpg

Walter H Price · 25-07-2016 03:39PM

HensVassal wrote: »

Then how come so many of them say it's revenge for the mass slaughter of people in their lands? Or do you want to ignore that and paint them as madmen who can't be reasoned with or who have no legitimate explanation for their actions because it frees you up from having to examine a little deeper the causes of this whole conflict?

Yup, the easy way out. the lazy man's approach.

and if the west's stops pounding isis or the tailban or hamas ... all that will is those groups will slaughter civilians no stability and terrorism will continue.

By that logic is it ok for The Northern Irish Catholics to continue Bombing the sh*t out of the UK to free the 6 Counties ? that's the difference between political and religious terrorism , you can negotiate with Politicians you cannot negotiate with religious fanatics

Blame the west all you want the fundamental issue here is islam

RGDATA! · 25-07-2016 03:39PM

SnakePlissken wrote: »

62% are males, one only has to look at any of the images of migrants arriving enmasse to verify this, but no, the facts do not align themselves to your opinion so you fabricate your own, it's shameful.

how would one verify this by looking at a picture?

weisses · 25-07-2016 03:42PM

Bob24 wrote: »

ISIS has just claimed responsibility for the attack.

They are getting desperate it seems

Bob24 · 25-07-2016 03:42PM

weisses wrote: »

They are getting desperate it seems

How so?

SnakePlissken · 25-07-2016 03:43PM

HensVassal wrote: »

You have a problem with the Emiratis having strict laws surrounding alcohol yet I would imagine you'd lick your lips with glee at the thought of the Thai authorities banging up some idiot for 25 years for being in possession of a few joints.

You've a vivid imagination I'll give you that, perhaps you should try and ground it somewhat in reality?

To be frank I'm not wasting any further time with someone who is obviously so entrenched in their opinion they won't be swayed by, I don't know, verifiable facts and figures.

Good day to you.

weisses · 25-07-2016 03:46PM

Bob24 wrote: »

How so?

Well he only managed to blow himself up

Prior to that he tried to get into that Venue without a ticket

Where did ISIS claim responsibility ?

SnakePlissken · 25-07-2016 03:47PM

weisses wrote: »

Didn't you get the memo ..They are ALL here to rape and kill Europeans... All of them :rolleyes:

The only person saying this on here is you, hang your head in shame for such a generalisation

Gatling · 25-07-2016 03:48PM

Another thread filled with anti islam agendas minus any facts typical

Richard Hillman · 25-07-2016 03:48PM

Bob24 wrote: »

ISIS has just claimed responsibility for the attack.

I dont want to jump to conclusions but I reckon he may have been an Islamic extremist.

SterlingArcher · 25-07-2016 03:49PM

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

Oh, and language like the following is very un pleasand to read.

If you can't make your point without resorting to this type of language, maybe don't post at all.

Type of language? Un pleasant to read? jesus if you can't handle that type of "language" maybe go to a forum for 6-12 year olds. On second thoughts they might hurt your emotions too. Kids can be so cruel. safer to stay off the Internet full stop.

Pro Hoc Vice · 25-07-2016 03:50PM

HensVassal wrote: »

Are you seriously going to try and peddle that? So the gentry who make up that wealthy 1 or 2 percent of society suffered more casualties than the rest of society? I just have to see your figures backing that up.

The person said as a percentage

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25776836

Myth "The upper class got off lightly
Although the great majority of casualties in WW1 were from the working class, the social and political elite were hit disproportionately hard by WW1. Their sons provided the junior officers whose job it was to lead the way over the top and expose themselves to the greatest danger as an example to their men.
Some 12% of the British army's ordinary soldiers were killed during the war, compared with 17% of its officers. Eton alone lost more than 1,000 former pupils - 20% of those who served. UK wartime Prime Minister Herbert Asquith lost a son, while future Prime Minister Andrew Bonar Law lost two. Anthony Eden lost two brothers, another brother of his was terribly wounded, and an uncle was captured."

Walter H Price · 25-07-2016 03:50PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I dont want to jump to conclusions but I reckon he may have been an Islamic extremist.

Careful now somone's gonna call you a racist for that :P

after all Islam is a religion of peace hahahahahaha

weisses · 25-07-2016 03:50PM

SnakePlissken wrote: »

To be frank I'm not wasting any further time with someone who is obviously so entrenched in their opinion they won't be swayed by, I don't know, verifiable facts and figures.

Now read that out loud in front of a mirror

Bob24 · 25-07-2016 03:50PM

weisses wrote: »

Well he only managed to blow himself up

Prior to that he tried to get into that Venue without a ticket

Where did ISIS claim responsibility ?

I saw it here: www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2016/07/25/97001-20160725FILWWW00174-l-etat-islamique-revendique-l-attentat-suicide-a-ansbach.php

Of course the attack didn't reach its maximum potential impact (luckily), but I don't see why they would be desperate?

More publicity for them and could trigger some copycats in Germany. Still good from their perspective (their strategy seem to be ****ting towards "low-cost" terrorist which is more difficult to detect/prevent and enables constant coverage).

munchkin_utd · 25-07-2016 03:51PM

Bob24 wrote: »

ISIS has just claimed responsibility for the attack.

a half hour after its made public that the lad says he was doing it for ISIS, ISIS then claims it !

The press conference also mentioned that he had a load of other bomb making equipment and that he had diesel and other fuels so it looks like he made it that way and maybe not with gas cartridges.

The video on his phone mentions revenge against Germany for killing muslims

There's still no info on why he wasn't deported back to Bulgaria who originally granted him asylum before he started to wander further west and seemingly were willing to have him back . Bit of a cock up there by the Bavarian state who are responsible for deportations from their region.

So, its murky enough with regards to details, but ISIS not knowing their own "soldiers" until after the Bavarian government exposes them sort of indicates he was acting off his own bat.

SnakePlissken · 25-07-2016 03:51PM

RGDATA! wrote: »

how would one verify this by looking at a picture?

I don't know I can quite easily differentiate an adult male from a prepubescent girl, can you not? Apart from that, please feel free to look up the statistics on the matter

Dyr · 25-07-2016 03:52PM

Sooo ...Anyway how about that bombing in Germany that has absolutely nothing to with Islamic terrorism or Germanys policy on refugees from all places Muslim

Emmmm....I Wonder what sort of backpack it was?

unseenfootage · 25-07-2016 03:55PM

Walter H Price wrote: »

Halal Slaughter is carried out here on a routine basis , my mother previously worked for the state lab an was utterly appalled by the cruelty and suffering the animal endured during it so much so that she left her job and became a vegetarian , because not only is it routine practice here that many meat factory's have a minimum of 1 halal day a week this meat is not labeled so cannot be easily avoided.

Quite strange that she would object to halal slaughter only, but the abhorrent practices of factory farming chickens and pigs did not faze her one bit.

Those practices are so cruel that slaughter without stunning is actually a mercy to those poor creatures.

weisses · 25-07-2016 03:56PM

Bob24 wrote: »

I saw it here: www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2016/07/25/97001-20160725FILWWW00174-l-etat-islamique-revendique-l-attentat-suicide-a-ansbach.php

Of course the attack didn't reach its maximum potential impact (luckily), but I don't see why they would be desperate?

More publicity for them and could trigger some copycats in Germany. Still good from their perspective (their strategy seem to be ****ting towards "low-cost" terrorist which is more difficult to detect/prevent and enables constant coverage).

I dont read French .. I know he apperantly pledged himself to ISIS but i did not see any sources saying ISIS claimed this

Which I wouldn't do if I were them ... Its was a bit of a pathetic attempt really

Dyr · 25-07-2016 03:56PM

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

Oh, and language like the following is very un pleasand to read.

If you can't make your point without resorting to this type of language, maybe don't post at all.

Seems as how you're making free with the comments without bothering to use a bold font perhaps point out what exact language is upsetting you?

I can't really think of pleasant euphemisms for either of the activities mentioned

SnakePlissken · 25-07-2016 03:57PM

weisses wrote: »

Now read that out loud in front of a mirror

School yard tactics, we'll done sport.

25-07-2016 03:57PM

munchkin_utd wrote: »

So, its murky enough with regards to details, but ISIS not knowing their own "soldiers" until after the Bavarian government exposes them sort of indicates he was acting off his own bat.

It hardly matters who sanctioned the attack and who bought the explosive materials.

it is sufficient that this man drew inspiration from ISIS and acted in their name. That fact alone is enough to describe this as violent Islamist extremism.

Any foreknowledge on behalf of ISIS isn't going to make it one bit worse; in fact, it's arguably worse to have 'lone wolves' doing ISIS's batting for them, since it makes such attacks all the more unpredictable.

I still think we ought not exaggerate the incidence of these attacks, but we have to acknowledge the ideology it's coming from, and the belief system informing it.

weisses · 25-07-2016 03:58PM

Bambi wrote: »

Emmmm....I Wonder what sort of backpack it was?

You can make lethal bombs with stuff from regular new years eve celebrations

Heck I even made little bombs years an years ago around new years

munchkin_utd · 25-07-2016 03:59PM

weisses wrote: »

I dont read French .. I know he apperantly pledged himself to ISIS but i did not see any sources saying ISIS claimed this

Which I wouldn't do if I were them ... Its was a bit of a pathetic attempt really

+1

to try and enter a music festival without a ticket shows some serious planning issues !! He also wasn't going to get very far without his bag being checked even if he had a ticket.

Its also a question as to how someone can build a bomb in an asylum seekers centre. I know its not a prison, but jesus there surely is some sort of security in there.

RGDATA! · 25-07-2016 03:59PM

SnakePlissken wrote: »

I don't know I can quite easily differentiate an adult male from a prepubescent girl, can you not? Apart from that, please feel free to look up the statistics on the matter

You quoted a statistic and said one only had to look at "any image of migrants arriving to verify this". That hardly seems like a scientific or sound way to verify a statistic like that.

weisses · 25-07-2016 04:00PM

SnakePlissken wrote: »

School yard tactics, we'll done sport.

To stay in the school yard

You started it

Walter H Price · 25-07-2016 04:00PM

unseenfootage wrote: »

Quite strange that she would object to halal slaughter only, but the abhorrent practices of factory farming chickens and pigs did not faze her one bit.

Those practices are so cruel that slaughter without stunning is actually a mercy to those poor creatures.

I'm sure its not to strange when your watching animal be hung upside down with the throats slit... i am opposed to factory farming and industrial agriculture too , but if animals must be slaughtered for food it my absolute belief it should be done in the quickest most humane way possible , not some sadistic medieval tradition.

If that makes me racist or Islamiphobic i'll wear the badge with absolute pride

Gatling · 25-07-2016 04:00PM

weisses wrote: »

Heck I even made little bombs years an years ago around new years

Expecting have you reported your self to the authorities as your civic duty replies

Explosion in bar in Ansbach, Germany

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