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Animal creulty

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  • #62
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,135 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Smondie wrote: »
    You can, but you won't :) in other words you can't

    You're right. I can't.... be arsed. Especially to an apparently newcomer to Boards who just happened to read the Circus thread.


  • #63
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Discodog wrote: »
    You're right. I can't.... be arsed. Especially to an apparently newcomer to Boards who just happened to read the Circus thread.

    http://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?user=184727&thread=2057576381&sort=best&date_to=&date_from=&query=%2A%3A%2A&page=1


  • #64
    Smondie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    Discodog wrote: »
    You're right. I can't.... be arsed. Especially to an apparently newcomer to Boards who just happened to read the Circus thread.

    Oh my god, i can read... first i knew about it!

    Embarrassed now the barren beast wagon isn't filled with supporters?


  • #65
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its pretty clear op that you have just take issue with the 'animal rights circus crowd'. If you actually care about these horses why aren't you there? Why didn't you organise a protest? Because you don't actually give a s**t, you're just trying to get a dig in. I thought this thread was actually going to highlight the real cruelty animals in this country are suffering and our absolute lack of decent animal welfare. Not this pathetic little rant. How about you mention some actual cruelty? Like the 10 week old springer pup found in cork a couple of weeks ago, whose leg had been left to rot off after an injury. Or the horse found abandoned on a road, who when they tried to help him up his insides literally fell out. The lurcher who couldn't stand up, not from injury (although she was in bad shape) but from absolute fear and depression. The husky last year who's eyes were shot out with a pellet gun. All the shelters who this week alone had to close their doors because there is no room left for all the animals being abandoned and abused? Nah.. Let's talk about the most pampered horses in the country putting on a little performance.


  • #66
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Its pretty clear op that you have just take issue with the 'animal rights circus crowd'. If you actually care about these horses why aren't you there? Why didn't you organise a protest? Because you don't actually give a s**t, you're just trying to get a dig in. I thought this thread was actually going to highlight the real cruelty animals in this country are suffering and our absolute lack of decent animal welfare. Not this pathetic little rant. How about you mention some actual cruelty? Like the 10 week old springer pup found in cork a couple of weeks ago, whose leg had been left to rot off after an injury. Or the horse found abandoned on a road, who when they tried to help him up his insides literally fell out. The lurcher who couldn't stand up, not from injury (although she was in bad shape) but from absolute fear and depression. The husky last year who's eyes were shot out with a pellet gun. All the shelters who this week alone had to close their doors because there is no room left for all the animals being abandoned and abused? Nah.. Let's talk about the most pampered horses in the country putting on a little performance.

    Aye it's shocking alright, Where were the circus lads on this ? They tried to help some lobster that did not end well.


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  • #67
    Smondie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Its pretty clear op that you have just take issue with the 'animal rights circus crowd'. If you actually care about these horses why aren't you there? Why didn't you organise a protest? Because you don't actually give a s**t, you're just trying to get a dig in. I thought this thread was actually going to highlight the real cruelty animals in this country are suffering and our absolute lack of decent animal welfare. Not this pathetic little rant. How about you mention some actual cruelty? Like the 10 week old springer pup found in cork a couple of weeks ago, whose leg had been left to rot off after an injury. Or the horse found abandoned on a road, who when they tried to help him up his insides literally fell out. The lurcher who couldn't stand up, not from injury (although she was in bad shape) but from absolute fear and depression. The husky last year who's eyes were shot out with a pellet gun. All the shelters who this week alone had to close their doors because there is no room left for all the animals being abandoned and abused? Nah.. Let's talk about the most pampered horses in the country putting on a little performance.

    If the protestors really cared about animals they would have been there too.


    it appears they don't.They only wanted to belong to something and jumped on the band wagon.

    Pictures of one of the protestors riding an elephant on her holidays appeared :pac:


    Big hypocrites


  • #68
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Smondie wrote: »
    If the protestors really cared about animals they would have been there too.


    it appears they don't.They only wanted to belong to something and jumped on the band wagon.

    Pictures of one of the protestors riding an elephant on her holidays appeared :pac:


    Big hypocrites

    Damn my Taxes.. :P


  • #69
    mdwexford
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    kneemos wrote: »
    Any animal doing tricks (dogs included) in fairness is just humiliating for the animal

    Are humans doing tricks humiliating for the human?


  • #70
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Are humans doing tricks humiliating for the human?

    Jesus we should start a campaign about all them children and babies on YT.


  • #71
    BBDBB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Send in the clowns

    Where are the clowns?

    Don't bother, they're here


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  • #72
    SomeFool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭SomeFool


    Smondie wrote: »
    Embarrassed now the barren beast wagon isn't filled with supporters?

    Open a window, I don't think there's enough oxygen in your room.


  • #73
    Smondie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    SomeFool wrote: »
    Open a window, I don't think there's enough oxygen in your room.
    Plenty of oxygen here. The protestors may be short some though, they're very quiet on this. Probably busy untangling thier double standards and dreaming of being on Joe Duffy on Monday


  • #74
    Kovu
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    I'm confused now, are you bashing the protesters, the people with the horses or both?


  • #75
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Kovu wrote: »
    I'm confused now, are you bashing the protesters, the people with the horses or both?

    Horses that Protest ?


  • #76
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Horses that Protest ?

    BAN THE CURB!


  • #77
    Stigura
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Kovu wrote: »
    Why do you insist on calling it the barren beast wagon? It's a very crude way to describe a horsebox.


    Kovu; Google it. As I did. It's simply the new by word of the " ISPCA " / Petaphiles. Nuff said?


    OP; Are you over fourteen years of age ..... Mentally? Only, I'm not yet convinced.


  • #78
    Boater123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 312 ✭✭Boater123


    Kovu wrote: »
    There's a difference between keeping animals that are 'wild' locked up and trained compared to years upon years upon years of domesticated breeding.
    If we're to go along that train of thought there'd be no dogs doing tricks either.

    There's animal cruelty and there's being ridiculous.

    Tell me how were these wild animals were domesticated??? By suffering "years upon years of of domesticated breeding" How kind!!

    Sure drive them over the hedge and leap the gap the far side. Don't open the gate whatever you do. That's what they like, sure it's natural.

    Modern training of dogs involve treats. Horses get the whip or the spur. And dogs shouldn't be doing tricks either.

    "There's animal cruelty and there's being ridiculous," ....No, just animal cruelty.


  • #79
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Boater123 wrote: »
    Tell me how were these wild animals were domesticated??? By suffering "years upon years of of domesticated breeding" How kind!!

    Sure drive them over the hedge and leap the gap the far side. Don't open the gate whatever you do. That's what they like, sure it's natural.

    Modern training of dogs involve treats. Horses get the whip or the spur. And dogs shouldn't be doing tricks either.

    "There's animal cruelty and there's being ridiculous," ....No, just animal cruelty.
    Tell me how were these wild animals were domesticated???
    I'm sorry to say i don't have the annals of Eurasians to hand but I'm sure you could look at countless other journals.
    'Suffering' Oh yea, they were beaten bloody til they copulated :rolleyes:
    I think selected is the term you're looking for.

    Horses get the whip or the spur, pfft, have you tried training a horse to follow? They can learn just as well to beg for treats, not a humiliation to them than.


  • #80
    Stigura
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Boater123 wrote: »
    Modern training of dogs involve treats. Horses get the whip or the spur.


    :eek: I beg your fcuking pardon!!! Do you actually Have a Dog, let alone a Horse in your care?

    Only, whilst you were spouting that, I was quietly chatting to another member on here, in PM. Explaining how, yes; The Dogs were all crashed out, around the room. Sleeping in their various beds. Or on mine.

    My horses? They're out on the land now. Enjoying themselves. Munching what ever takes their fancy. Following their nature, to stroll over acres. Nibbling what ever nature provides.

    And I also said how it's a bitter sweet thing, to see them, hundreds of yards away. But, that; Come September, I'll just go down there and Lead them home, to their snug stables.

    " Lead "? Yes. I'll go down there. As I do. Call their individual names. And then walk off back here. No spurs. No Bits. No Head Collars. No Whips! I just bloody open the gates. Call their names and walk home. They follow.

    Know what? The scariest part is the fear that they'll get Too excited, about going home to bed, now that the weather's turning, and will Stampede me as they rush home to their stables!

    Not a " Barron Beast Wagon " (As seen on rte news ~ are you people for fcuking real?!) in sight.

    Now, come on. Hands up. Who, posting here, actually has (preferably) a lifetime of handling animals? And who is under twenty years old. Has pink, blue, or similar hair ~ and is " Outraged " over something " Trending " on Face Palm or Twatter?

    Good fcuking god.


  • #81
    Smondie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    So sad if the horses get excited to head in to a barren concrete cell. Poor things know no freedom. They're probably happy they're not been ridden and beaten.


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  • #82
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,609 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Are humans doing tricks humiliating for the human?


    No . What's that got to do with animals?


  • #83
    [Deleted User]
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    Boater123 wrote: »

    Modern training of dogs involve treats. Horses get the whip or the spur. And dogs shouldn't be doing tricks either.
    You obviously do not know the first thing about horses.

    Horses respond to positive reinforcement, and light negative reinforcement, i.e. the sight of a whip carried on the left-hand-side will prevent a horse from running-out on that side.

    Beat him with it, and he'll stop co-operating altogether, or become a chronic spooker.

    It is idiotic to think you can train an animal to a competitive level by beating him.
    Smondie wrote: »
    So sad if the horses get excited to head in to a barren concrete cell. Poor things know no freedom. They're probably happy they're not been ridden and beaten.
    We get it. You have an axe to grind with the animal rights crowd. Presumably they prevented you from going to the circus. Getting boring now.


  • #84
    Smondie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    You obviously do not know the first thing about horses.

    Horses respond to positive reinforcement, and light negative reinforcement, i.e. the sight of a whip carried on the left-hand-side will prevent a horse from running-out on that side.

    Beat him with it, and he'll stop co-operating altogether, or become a chronic spooker.

    It is idiotic to think you can train an animal to a competitive level by beating him.


    We get it. You have an axe to grind with the animal rights crowd. Presumably they prevented you from going to the circus. Getting boring now.

    why is that quote attributed to me? I didn't post that.


    Is it a smear campaign because you like to treat animals as you do?


  • #85
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's rich considering what you're smearing over this thread.

    Quote edited.


  • #86
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Why are people even feeding this head-the-ball? =/


  • #87
    OldRio
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    Smondie wrote: »
    Where are all the animal creulty protestors? They harassed the circus out of town but i flicked on the TV this evening and the dublin horse show had 4 horses sitting inunnatural positions and were humiliating them by making them perform.




    So animal protesters? What's the Craic? Where were ye today?

    You seem to have problems. Sit back, relax. I'm listening.


  • #88
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    El Chapo wrote: »
    I was at wrok.

    I was at hoem


  • #89
    Smondie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    That's rich considering what you're smearing over this thread.

    Quote edited.
    My name is URL wrote: »
    Why are people even feeding this head-the-ball? =/
    OldRio wrote: »
    You seem to have problems. Sit back, relax. I'm listening.

    Play the ball not the man lads, unless you can't justify your double standards.

    Abusers always want to shut down discussion so the can continue unimpeeded


  • #90
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    kneemos wrote: »
    Responds to the movement of the whip because it knows that it hurts obviously.

    Jaysus, don't ever go to a race track.


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  • #91
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Smondie wrote: »
    Play the ball not the man lads, unless you can't justify your double standards.

    Abusers always want to shut down discussion so the can continue unimpeeded

    I don't agree with the humiliation of inanimate spherical objects

    People gathering to cheer on a bunch of men kicking an innocent ball around the place. It's barbaric


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