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Animal creulty

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  • #32
    Smondie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    So what? You're just spreading the wrongness around , it doesn't make your point any more correct.

    I'd like to hear from them as to why they weren't there today.


  • #33
    Odelay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭Odelay


    [quote="Kovu; as would some of those contraptions of bits used on the fresher horses jumping.[/quote]

    Exactly, if you want a high horse to get up on, try complaining about some of the bits used, especially those used in American films. Yokes of torture they are.


  • #34
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    What are you on about 'humiliating' animals.

    It reminds me of the time some mad old biddy texted the Derek Mooney show, complaining about him publicising a webcam which was broadcasting a bird's nest/ Her complaint was that the camera was an invasion of the privacy of the bird family. Fcuking loopy.

    There is no reason to believe that horses are capable of feeling humiliation, nor embarrassment... nor a loss of privacy, for that matter.

    Having said that, if horses could read, they might cringe at this thread.

    A typical showjumper is half-a-tonne of flesh and muscle. You don't bully an animal of that size and strength to excel. You convince him to excel by mutual co-operation. Horses are amazing animals who will go to amazing lengths to co-operate with the weird requests we humans make of them. But they are only requests.

    If a horse doesn't want to do something, you might harangue and bully him to eventually muddling through, for example, going over a river or into a horsebox. You certainly will not harangue and bully him into competing successfully at an international level.


    They can get elephants to do tricks,I reackon a horse must be easy in comparison.


  • #35
    Odelay
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    Smondie wrote: »
    I'd like to hear from them as to why they weren't there today.

    Maybe because there is nothing wrong with it? Maybe because the horses are very looked after?


  • #36
    Smondie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    Odelay wrote: »
    Maybe because there is nothing wrong with it? Maybe because the horses are very looked after?

    Humiliation, being forced to do trick, unnatural positions, barren beast wagons

    This has got everything they're against. So against it they assaulted a woman and a baby and tried to set fire to the stables. So where are they?

    Has it worn off them? Have they changed thier minds? Or is it bécause a lot of them have horses?


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  • #37
    lazybones32
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Any animal doing tricks (dogs included) in fairness is just humiliating for the animal

    My dog licks his balls in public. He has no sense of shame or humiliation.


  • #38
    Odelay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭Odelay


    What is a barren beast wagon? Is it a horse box or trailer? Is it horse box with a hay net for journeys over an hour and water when it arrives at destination?

    You sound like quite an expert, please tell us how to care for horses.....


  • #39
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    lazybones32 wrote: »
    My dog licks his balls in public. He has no sense of shame or humiliation.


    Obviously the animal doesn't feel humiliated,but you're making a fool of it by making it do unnatural things to please its owner.


  • #40
    Smondie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    Odelay wrote: »
    What is a barren beast wagon? Is it a horse box or trailer? Is it horse box with a hay net for journeys over an hour and water when it arrives at destination?

    You sound like quite an expert, please tell us how to care for horses.....



    A barren beast wagon is used to transport animals- so sad :(


  • #41
    BBDBB
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    kneemos wrote: »
    They can get elephants to do tricks,I reackon a horse must be easy in comparison.

    I reckon I can train ants to do card tricks


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  • #42
    Odelay
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    Smondie wrote: »
    A barren beast wagon is used to transport animals- so sad :(

    Sorta like using car to transport dogs???:confused:

    Why is it so sad? Have you seen a horse that is used to a horsebox going in? Most knows it is a good thing. It means new things to look at, new smells meting new horses, jumping. Once they are used to it they load no problem. Mine just walks into it, point her at it and she walks in on her own.
    Yes, there are some that are difficult to load, mostly because they aren't used to it or have been miss handled but the majority have no problem being transported.


  • #43
    Stigura
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    Smondie wrote: »
    carried around in Barron beast wagons

    Is that like an Ifor Williams :confused:


  • #44
    Stigura
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    lazybones32 wrote: »
    My dog licks his balls in public. He has no sense of shame or humiliation.

    My Dog licks my balls in public. I have no sense of shame or humiliation. Skin as thick as a rhino's, me.


  • #45
    Smondie
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    Odelay wrote: »
    Sorta like using car to transport dogs???:confused:

    Why is it so sad? Have you seen a horse that is used to a horsebox going in? Most knows it is a good thing. It means new things to look at, new smells meting new horses, jumping. Once they are used to it they load no problem. Mine just walks into it, point her at it and she walks in on her own.
    Yes, there are some that are difficult to load, mostly because they aren't used to it or have been miss handled but the majority have no problem being transported.


    It's so unnatural for them. The army had to shoot the cows who refused to travel in the barren beast wagon.


  • #46
    Your Face
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    Reading your post was a form of animal cruelty OP.


  • #47
    darkpagandeath
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    Smondie wrote: »
    It's so unnatural for them. The army had to shoot the cows who refused to travel in the barren beast wagon.

    What a waste of steak.


  • #48
    Smondie
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    Your Face wrote: »
    Reading your post was a form of animal cruelty OP.

    I'm sorry if your owner treated you so bad my post triggers you :(


  • #49
    Your Face
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    Your bad spelling triggered me.


  • #50
    Hologram
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    Smondie wrote: »
    Whipped to do humiliating tricks, carried around in Barron beast wagons and ridden for pleasure, it's the same treatment the elephants had



    But then again, most of the anti elephant crowd are horse owners, they were probably in the stands cheering it on, the big hypocrites
    "most of the anti elephant crowd are horse owners"?


  • #51
    Smondie
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    Hologram wrote: »
    "most of the anti elephant crowd are horse owners"?

    Yes, pictures of thier animals surface at one stage, it wasn't pretty.
    Horses in barren cells with big bars and dogs dressed as ballerinas


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  • #52
    lazybones32
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Obviously the animal doesn't feel humiliated,but you're making a fool of it by making it do unnatural things to please its owner.
    Animals don't care whether people think they are clever or foolish...at least that's what the penguins tell me.


  • #53
    darkpagandeath
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    Smondie wrote: »
    Yes, pictures of thier animals surface at one stage, it wasn't pretty.
    Horses in barren cells with big bars and dogs dressed as ballerinas

    It was the same crowd was it not that put an invasive species in Dublin bay thankfully they died being fresh water creature.


  • #54
    Smondie
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    It was the same crowd was it not that put an invasive species in Dublin bay thankfully they died being fresh water creature.

    Yes, They also wanted to send the Asian elephant back his African homeland.

    Their absence is noted


  • #55
    Kovu
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    Smondie wrote: »
    Horses in barren cells with big bars

    Or ya know, a stable.


  • #56
    Smondie
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    Kovu wrote: »
    Or ya know, a stable.

    The only freedom they got was with a human sitting on them, whipping them and then a spin in the barren beast wagon, back to thier cells.


  • #57
    Kovu
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    Smondie wrote: »
    The only freedom they got was with a human sitting on them, whipping them and then a spin in the barren beast wagon, back to thier cells.

    Why do you insist on calling it the barren beast wagon? It's a very crude way to describe a horsebox.


  • #58
    Smondie
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    Kovu wrote: »
    Why do you insist on calling it the barren beast wagon? It's a very crude way to describe a horsebox.

    That's the lingo I learned from the protestors.

    Don't tell me they they were trying the old propaganda.


  • #59
    Discodog
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    I posted against cruelty towards Elephants. I could explain the difference between the needs of a horse & an Elephant but........ Nah, your comments aren't worth replying to


  • #60
    Smondie
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    Discodog wrote: »
    I posted against cruelty towards Elephants. I could explain the difference between the needs of a horse & an Elephant but........ Nah, your comments aren't worth replying to

    You can, but you won't :) in other words you can't


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  • #61
    darkpagandeath
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    Discodog wrote: »
    I posted against cruelty towards Elephants. I could explain the difference between the needs of a horse & an Elephant but........ Nah, your comments aren't worth replying to

    I hear they need to be around violent mobs when taking exercise and eating. Oh they also like fire.


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