Why did Gardai destroy possible burial site of Irelands longest missing child?

oranbhoy67 · 18-07-2016 10:30PM

Going Forward wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/755052433663926273?p=v

O Doherty is still standing by her claim that Collins has identified the politician.

But I think she's going to get a bit of goading about doing something about it.

She doesn't seem to have done anything with it, but what's she supposed to do with it?

Follow Margo's steps to Pearse St. Garda Station?

Gemma has very viable proof of the claim

Esel · 18-07-2016 10:37PM

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/groups/MaryBoyle/280409168993466/?notif_t=group_activity&notif_id=1468810566506252

A new facebook group set up by the same people behind the biggest Maddie McCann Group on facebook if anyone is interested, its private and only for serious discussion and debate and just finding its feet yet

I'm getting a real sense of Harney / Haughey déjà vu.

oranbhoy67 · 18-07-2016 10:42PM

Esel wrote: »

I'm getting a real sense of Harney / Haughey déjà vu.

dont understand sorry?

Going Forward · 18-07-2016 10:44PM

http://www.highlandradio.com/2016/07/18/i-never-sought-to-use-political-influence-in-mary-boyle-case-mc-enif

Highland Radio has an interesting title on their report.

I haven't seen it repeated anywhere else.

Going Forward · 18-07-2016 11:00PM

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

Gemma has very viable proof of the claim

Good.

I get the feeling that it has to be make or break time soon.

The heat is going to go off it if not. It happens, the media moves on, inevitably.

I hope it goes well whatever she does.

Going Forward · 18-07-2016 11:10PM

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

dont understand sorry?

http://irishecho.com/2011/02/harneys-gaffe-helps-haughey-pull-another-houdini-2/

The same was said about the Anglo Irish Bank and other "financial crisis" trials, there had been so much media coverage beforehand that there was a fear that anyone coming before a court wouldn't get a fair trial.

It didn't, but it's advice worth heeding still

UsedToWait · 18-07-2016 11:20PM

Going Forward wrote: »

http://www.highlandradio.com/2016/07/18/i-never-sought-to-use-political-influence-in-mary-boyle-case-mc-enif

Highland Radio has an interesting title on their report.

I haven't seen it repeated anywhere else.

What a bizarre statement..

First he unequivocally denies being the politician behind the phone call (to the Gardai in Ballyshannon it must be pointed out - he makes no comment about any contact that may have taken place with Gardai outside of Ballyshannon)..

Then he states he is satisfied that the 2 investigating Gardai have made clear that their investigation was in no way hampered by any such alleged phone call.

Whatever about his involvement or lack of involvement in the case, if I was him I'd be suing whoever drafted that statement, which has done nothing at all for his public image in my opinion..

oranbhoy67 · 18-07-2016 11:37PM

UsedToWait wrote: »

What a bizarre statement..

First he unequivocally denies being the politician behind the phone call (to the Gardai in Ballyshannon it must be pointed out - he makes no comment about any contact that may have taken place with Gardai outside of Ballyshannon)..

Then he states he is satisfied that the 2 investigating Gardai have made clear that their investigation was in no way hampered by any such alleged phone call.

Whatever about his involvement or lack of involvement in the case, if I was him I'd be suing whoever drafted that statement, which has done nothing at all for his public image in my opinion..

That is a complete lie anyway , one is definitely not of that opinion , the other has ummed and ahhed the last few days but we have him on record saying that McEniff rang the station, so McEniff can take his legal threats and ram them .

oranbhoy67 · 18-07-2016 11:39PM

Going Forward wrote: »

http://irishecho.com/2011/02/harneys-gaffe-helps-haughey-pull-another-houdini-2/

The same was said about the Anglo Irish Bank and other "financial crisis" trials, there had been so much media coverage beforehand that there was a fear that anyone coming before a court wouldn't get a fair trial.

It didn't, but it's advice worth heeding still

I wasn't going to name anyone and still don't want the suspect named but the way I see it McEniff has now thrown his 2 cents in, so people should be allowed a right to a reply, whether that would stand up in court or not I don't know but id be willing to find out

Going Forward · 18-07-2016 11:41PM

UsedToWait wrote: »

What a bizarre statement..

First he unequivocally denies being the politician behind the phone call (to the Gardai in Ballyshannon it must be pointed out - he makes no comment about any contact that may have taken place with Gardai outside of Ballyshannon)..

Then he states he is satisfied that the 2 investigating Gardai have made clear that their investigation was in no way hampered by any such alleged phone call.

Whatever about his involvement or lack of involvement in the case, if I was him I'd be suing whoever drafted that statement, which has done nothing at all for his public image in my opinion..

Very, very strange.

'I never sought to use political interference in Mary Boyle case"

'I never sought to use political interference in Mary Boyle case"

It didn't draft itself.

Either the radio station drafted it or his solicitors did, or he said it at the Council meeting this morning?

There doesn't appear to be a copy of his Solicitor's statement available to read anywhere.

UsedToWait · 18-07-2016 11:45PM

Going Forward wrote: »

Very, very strange.

'I never sought to use political interference in Mary Boyle case"

'I never sought to use political interference in Mary Boyle case"

It didn't draft itself.

Either the radio station drafted it or his solicitors did, or he said it at the Council meeting this morning?

There doesn't appear to be a copy of his Solicitor's statement available to read anywhere.

Well it's reported that he read from a prepared statement, and that any future correspondence will be via his solicitors, so it's safe to assume that they were involved in the drafting..
I wouldn't be rushing to engage them on the basis of that 'clarification'..

Going Forward · 18-07-2016 11:51PM

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

I wasn't going to name anyone and still don't want the suspect named but the way I see it McEniff has now thrown his 2 cents in, so people should be allowed a right to a reply, whether that would stand up in court or not I don't know but id be willing to find out

You didn't name anyone and that's the important thing.

People probably don't have a right to reply though.

They may have a right to discuss his current statement in the context of approaching it as someone who has no other knowledge about the case other than what they've seen in the doc.

No names.

My 2cents worth, could be completely wrong on all of it.

Going Forward · 18-07-2016 11:56PM

UsedToWait wrote: »

Well it's reported that he read from a prepared statement, and that any future correspondence will be via his solicitors, so it's safe to assume that they were involved in the drafting..
I wouldn't be rushing to engage them on the basis of that 'clarification'..

Nor I, someone effectively saying that" political interference wasn't being sought, so any that ocurred must have happened unintentionally."

/Not my problem if that's how it turned out.

Where exactly did that line come from, the line that includes "sought" in it????

Giacomo McGubbin · 18-07-2016 11:56PM

I wonder what was said to the suspect when the other Guard was told to go and make some tea, just as soon as he was getting somewhere with the suspect ?

Going Forward · 19-07-2016 12:03AM

Giacomo McGubbin wrote: »

I wonder what was said to the suspect when the other Guard was told to go and make some tea, just as soon as he was getting somewhere with the suspect ?

Will you have a cup of tea? Go on.

Who knows!

Giacomo McGubbin · 19-07-2016 12:07AM

JohnCash0260 wrote: »

Some good information there. But why would the Gardai be willing to agree to this politicians request?

This is a key question.

The answer is decent Gardai aren't.

However, connected Gardai of the same ilk are only too happy do, as one favour then deserves another and the politician is then slightly in their debt. Said politician will then be only too happy to do said Gardai an ever bigger favour for something else he shouldn't do, and the Guard then is in his debt for the future. That's how these clicks work. Once you start doing eachother favours neither of you should be doing, you then either keep going, or the other one will threaten to expose you when it suits him. The click members keep eachother in check by having dirt on one another, and the only solution is to keep on doing dirty favours for one another. Which people of that type are usually happy enough doing anyway.

I've seen all this firsthand. No with Gardai and politicans, but elsewhere in the public service it's also rampant. Any decent person who gets in the way of the click, or threatens to expose it, is usually dealt with very quickly by making false accusations against them, and getting the other click members to back up the false accusations.

Giacomo McGubbin · 19-07-2016 12:08AM

Going Forward wrote: »

Will you have a cup of tea? Go on.

Who knows!

oh I think we have a fair idea at this stage.

Overheal · 19-07-2016 12:29AM

Going Forward wrote: »

Will you have a cup of tea? Go on.

wat? is this some irish euphamism i dont get

Esel · 19-07-2016 12:29AM

Clique.

oranbhoy67 · 19-07-2016 12:35AM

audio of McEniff defending himself here http://www.highlandradio.com/2016/07/18/motion-calling-for-independent-inquiry-into-mary-boyle-case-passed-at-council/

19-07-2016 12:54AM

Is here a link for the recent newspaper article (the star I think ?) ?

Going Forward · 19-07-2016 01:02AM

Overheal wrote: »

wat? is this some irish euphamism i dont get

Ah you will.
Go on, go on, go on.

Going Forward · 19-07-2016 01:58AM

Lifted from oranbhoy67 on Twitter, for those who haven't read about it:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnqxY_vWIAAKL8T.jpg:small

Charlie sent it "in error".

And no one is any the wiser as to why it was deliberately written, but erroneously tweeted.

And deleted 3 minutes later.

Maybe someone rang him to ask him what's he playing at.

oranbhoy67 · 19-07-2016 02:05AM

Going Forward wrote: »

Lifted from oranbhoy67 on Twitter, for those who haven't read about it:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnqxY_vWIAAKL8T.jpg:small

Charlie sent it "in error".

And no one is any the wiser as to why it was deliberately written, but erroneously tweeted.

And deleted 3 minutes later.

Maybe someone rang him to ask him what's he playing at.

former minister for children as well

NIMAN · 19-07-2016 02:29AM

To be fair, I have sent a few texts in my time once I put my phone back in my pocket in an unlocked state.

These often read like "AAAAAA" or similar, so perhaps it might have been a genuine error?

Esel · 19-07-2016 04:02AM

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

former minister for children as well

Who's your Daddy?

Oliver J, that's who. Bicycle, Monetary Reform Party. They, them. Scapegoats.

I don't mind kissing, but I hate dah!

Everyone drank the tea back then, even if it was actually black.

Verrry, very black.

UsedToWait · 19-07-2016 06:20AM

NIMAN wrote: »

To be fair, I have sent a few texts in my time once I put my phone back in my pocket in an unlocked state.

These often read like "AAAAAA" or similar, so perhaps it might have been a genuine error?

Possibly, but unfortunate for the Minister if so that of all the keys on his keyboard, the one letter he hit was the one that implied boredom with the issue..

testicles · 19-07-2016 07:30AM

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Going Forward · 19-07-2016 08:17AM

testicles wrote: »

Personally I see that tweet as having been sent in error. This is Conspiracy Theories though, so people are probably going to think otherwise.

An most unfortunate combination of letters, recipient, topic and timing.

4 separate parts required to come together at random, as they did.

Is he precluded by office from wishing the family and the investigation well?

stuar · 19-07-2016 11:29AM

stuar wrote: »

Seem like a corrupt lot up there...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0PibjNiqRI

As a Bundoran female Councillor who is recovering from a broken ankle was entering the room when Clr Sean McEniff deliberately ran toward the door and slammed the door on her chest and head. Bundoran female Councillor lying on floor after assault by Clr. Sean McEniff. Town Clerk Joe McNulty refuses to let anyone to help her. Did one Councillor come to her aid? NO. Clr. Denise Connolly continued with the meeting and left the Councillor on the floor asking who the First Aid Officer is, but Joe McNulty Town Clerk refused to answer her and just looked down on her.

Clr. Sean McEniff was then escorted to his car by two Garda,
Donegal GARDA CORRUPTION or WHAT last year Clr. McEniff incited hatred toward the travelling community, which lead to a travelling family home burnt, again the GARDA would do nothing.

Councillors present at meeting
Clr. Michael mcMahon (Sinn Fein),
Clr. Eliz McIntyre (Sean McEniffs daughter -Fianna Fail),
Clr. Denise Connolly Chairperson (Fine Gael),
Clr. Eamon Barrett (Fine Gael),
Clr. Philip McGlynn (Sean McEniff brother in law - Fianna Fail)
Garry Martin Town Manager and the Donegal County Council Director of Emergency Services
Joe McNulty Town Clerk

The Town Manager should have seen that the female Councillor receive help, but ignored her and went on with the meeting.

Here we have, (according to this video) Clr McEniff after assaulting a female Clr and escorted to HIS car, not a garda car, makes ye wonder....

Why did Gardai destroy possible burial site of Irelands longest missing child?

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