Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Had a neighbour who lost most of his first calvers. Seems to be where he grazed them for the summer.
Seems some bulls bring immunity and others don't. And its a fairly high hereditry trait.
Good news for yourself.

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Good news alright.

I can still move on some of the excess built up from last year before winter.

I'll celebrate by carrying a few to the mart:)

On the immunity, is there much info out yet on which bulls carry higher resistance to TB. I'm thinking it might be an option for next year or it could be for my neighbour definitely.

Semex and genus abs have immunity plus bulls that would be what your looking for, no irish ai companies have any such testing programs in place, health traits are a after thought in relation to ebi

blackdog1 wrote: »

Immunity plus is just another marketing tool. Maize and beet are the real problem with Tb badgers go mad for both especially beet maize to a lesser extent.

25% heritability is transfered between bulls bulls/dams to daughters for health traits more then just a marketing tool, lots of case studies to back up their claims

jaymla627 wrote: »

25% heritability is transfered between bulls bulls/dams to daughters for health traits more then just a marketing tool, lots of case studies to back up their claims

Viking genetics have been selecting for disease resistance for a long no. of years, avalaible through Eurogene. The Viking genetics website here.

http://www.vikinggenetics.com/breeds/vikingholstein/proven-bulls

jaymla627 wrote: »

Semex and genus abs have immunity plus bulls that would be what your looking for, no irish ai companies have any such testing programs in place, health traits are a after thought in relation to ebi

Far from after thought ,I've had a 400 ebi bull with excellent fertility and production figures rejected because of his health figure of -6 this year .negative health now regardless of ebi is rejection

jaymla627 wrote: »

Health accounts for 3% of a bulls ebi, in the pli system it accounts for nearly 20%, have a Eurogene catalogue in front of us of their top ten bulls at the start of the catalogue 6 are minus for health, must only be a new thing with icbf so, any word on why the new ebi system hasn't been rolled out yet thought it was to be implemented last year

New roll out for next ebi run in September

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

That's disappointing, had intended giving them a big go next breeding season. When you say disappointing what was the issue. What bulls did you go for

Lack of milk relative to their mothers, size issues aswell no real uniformity could be small and butty our very tall, very hard trained in to parlour compared to hols heifers
Used r haslev, a linne and gunnerstop, r haslev is the only bull I am going to use again and that will be on fairly extreme Shottle heifers,

Timmaay wrote: »

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/minister-creed-to-lead-trade-mission-to-asia-this-year-to-promote-irish-food-and-drink/

Food wise 2025! The new buzzword in town. Certainly cannot say I have the same naive enthusiasm for it that I had when the harvest 2020 was 1st touted!

Would be some work to increase exports to 5 billion to china from a base of 500 million this year, quick Google search might show these highly paid suits China is driving towards self-suffincey buying land left right and centre and forging very strong links with south America for dairy especially which are countries Ireland simply won't compete with

OverRide wrote: »

What's up with Glanbia connect,I can't open any milk or trading statement

They probably paid 100's of 1000's for this new site and half the time it's broken
They don't give a sh1t

People in Glanbia mostly dont work over the weekend, I assume they might have it fixed before we get the paper copies in the post

Hi lads .
Don't know if ye saw my thread of taking the big step .
I was back home weekend in kerry and was telling a few lads that I was going to return to milking .
The mood was that milk suppliers feel why should a new entrant be given a contract to supply milk when there is over supply and the guys who have support the manufacturer all their life is entitled to a price per litre before kerry take on any new milk .what's ye feeling ??

kerry cow wrote: »

Hi lads .
Don't know if ye saw my thread of taking the big step .
I was back home weekend in kerry and was telling a few lads that I was going to return to milking .
The mood was that milk suppliers feel why should a new entrant be given a contract to supply milk when there is over supply and the guys who have support the manufacturer all their life is entitled to a price per litre before kerry take on any new milk .what's ye feeling ??

Fook em ,it's not like you'll be supplying a coop for free ,you will have to buy shares of some form to supply a coop ,u have lots of experience and plenty of ability ,don't let negative crap like that pull u down .

mahoney_j wrote: »

Fook em ,it's not like you'll be supplying a coop for free ,you will have to buy shares of some form to supply a coop ,u have lots of experience and plenty of ability ,don't let negative crap like that pull u down .

+1000

besides, the co-ops enjoy the luxury of "gentlemen's agreements" carving up territory to decide who gets to pick up milk.

With that in the background, there may not be a legal obligation for a co-op to collect a new entrants milk, but they'd want to think carefully before saying no whatever the circumstances.

We haven't decided yet whether to send our surplus 1000 litres a week or so to the co-op, but when I spoke to them they were quite open to it - despite the inconveniently small collection - basically wouldn't want to leave us stranded. Whether that materialises into a practical arrangement we'll have to see later in the year...

kowtow wrote: »

If shares / volume is well enforced, and considering that subsidy comes out of retained earnings or shareholder capital, then it should never be the case that farms staying static are subsidising those expanding... even if there was a big issue, it should be possible to isolate the price support element and pay it only based on shares already held at a certain date (like an ex-div date for a traded stock).

I dont know anything about coop shares and supply rights so might be missing something, but if milk for powder is worth less than 20c/l atm and an existing supplier/new entrant can supply extra milk to the coop for a base price above this are they not watering down a longterm suppliers (who didn't expand) share of the higher value products?