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Philippines - shoot dealers and addicts

  • 15-07-2016 12:43PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭


    The Philippines have given the order to go ahead and shoot dealers and junkies. Nearly sixty thousand addicts have handed themelves in and the jails are full and reports of 100 + dealers already shot.


    These sons of whores are destroying our children-mayor


    Could a similar solution work here?


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Comments

  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Of course it could. That's why they'll never do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Nearly 60,000 Filipino drug addicts have surrendered themselves to the government after President Rodrigo Duterte urged citizens to 'go ahead and kill' drug dealers and users.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3691692/Drug-addicts-Philippines-surrender-authorities-president-Rodrigo-Duterte-urges-citizens-ahead-kill-drug-users-dealers.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    There wouldn't be enough ammunition in the country to sort out Dublin city center.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Yay!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    The purge?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Pretty important word in the following sentence. Can you pick it out?

    Police have confirmed killing more than 110 drug suspects since the president came to power.

    I wonder does the president of the Philippines frequent AH or something, his "solutions" seem very similar to those on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Most definitely a breach of human rights conventions or something like that
    but it certainly gets results



    This is the same guy who turned one of the most violent areas in the philippines into a tourist friendly 'paradise'.. allegedly anyways
    So I don't know


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    On the whole, I'd rather Portugal's legalise it approach.

    The war on drugs is a farce. Stepping it up is not the solution. I suspect some dealers will shoot back.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If I suspect Duerte is secretly a user can I just go kill him?


  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    selastich2 wrote: »
    Could a similar solution work here?

    It worked in Belfast during the troubles. Davao where Duterte was mayor for 20 years has been cleaned up dramatically. It is not just drugs, the roads a better, the traffic is better, there are wheelie bin rubbish collections, the speed limits are heavy enforced, fire works are banned, Jeepneys have to meet standards and don't have 1+KW of music blasting out. etc etc. The locals love him and it is his proven record which has won him support from the rest of the country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Tow wrote: »
    It worked in Belfast during the troubles.

    Did it? Did it really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    So if you don't like your neighbour and "suspect" him to be a drug addict you can kill him. I don't foresee any problems going forward with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    maudgonner wrote: »
    Did it? Did it really?

    It worked in that all the other non-IRA dealers were put out of business, but I'm pretty sure the ra just wanted the market to themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭selastich2


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    So if you don't like your neighbour and "suspect" him to be a drug addict you can kill him. I don't foresee any problems going forward with that.
    better start being a bit nicer to the neighbours


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    Bit harsh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭selastich2


    Bit harsh
    That's like something someone hyped up on ganja might say...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,114 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    selastich2 wrote: »
    That's like something someone hyped up on ganja might say...
    Did you just use Street slang?
    *BANG*
    You're dead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    selastich2 wrote: »
    better start being a bit nicer to the neighbours
    What if your neighbour gets irritated by nice people and decides to shot you either way?

    This is the craziest thing I've ever heard. "Shoot anyone you think may be a drug addict"? I didn't think the Philippines was that barbaric.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭waraf


    ScumLord wrote: »
    .... I didn't think the Philippines was that barbaric.


    Duterte is a complete mentalist. F**k knows how he managed to get elected (although lies, corruption and vote rigging do spring to mind)


  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    So if you don't like your neighbour and "suspect" him to be a drug addict you can kill him. I don't foresee any problems going forward with that.

    Duterte would read a lists out each week on the radio of convicted car thieves, burglars etc. They would then take to leave, in case they had a mishap. Much the same as in Northern Ireland if you came to the attention of the local sectarian group.


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  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    waraf wrote: »
    Duterte is a complete mentalist. F**k knows how he managed to get elected (although lies, corruption and vote rigging do spring to mind)

    Visit the country and talk to the people. They are sick and tried of 'lies, corruption and vote rigging'. His support is so strong the country would have fallen into civil war if he did not win.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 334 ✭✭skywanderer


    I was in the Philippines this year when the election was held there, there was huge vote rigging and attempts to rig the election against this Man; particularly by Mar Roxas the opposing candidate and incumbent party candidate. The rich and powerful elite who control the Philippines lost the election and Duterte is now ruling with an Iron fist; Drugs are a huge problem in the Philippines particularly Shabu (Crystal-Meth). A Filipina I know there was offered 5,000pesos (€95) to vote for a different candidate; she took the money but voted Duterte anyway. This 5,000 bribe would be equivalent of around €1,500 here in terms of time to earn it on minimum wage. She and her family were selected for payment due to party loyalty and close friendship with the local Barangay mayors daughter.

    Two days before the election nearly 2 million people went to hear him speak in Luneta park in Manila. The day before the election, tens of thousands of Buses all arrived into Manila and one of the greatest migrations of people I have seen began as several million people left the City to return home to the their Provinces, Villages and Barangays to vote as that would be where their vote is.

    On the day of election all bars were closed and Alcohol sales banned, a taxi trip which should have taken me over 2 hours across Metro Manila took 17 minutes as the entire city emptied out and people stayed home and off the roads. Their was a distinct eeriness to the whole thing as the Military were on high alert because people were prepared to fight if Duterte did not get elected and a Revolution would have taken place along EDSA; as it subsequently transpired Duterte got elected with 7 million votes to spare.

    The Philippines is not a huge country but has 105million people and is bursting at the rafters; corruption is its biggest problem and this guy Duterte is tackling the problems head on; one bullet at a time. It is the only way to do it and while he upsets liberals; he is certainly getting results.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Giving an entire country free rein to shoot whomever they want with impunity... how could it go wrong?


  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Giving an entire country free rein to shoot whomever they want with impunity... how could it go wrong?

    It can go wrong, but in the grand scheme of things they will over look the odd mistake. Have a look at his original speech where he said this, it is on Youtube. He tells the people to get the police to handle drug dealers, but they can shoot in exceptional circumstances. Anyway, the Philippines is not like America there everyone has guns. You will see guards with shotguns at banks and the entrance to shopping centers etc, but many if these are a loaded with rocksalt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Giving an entire country free rein to shoot whomever they want with impunity... how could it go wrong?

    Indeed my ex is addicted to online shopping, woulld save me a fortune if we lived in the Philippines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Dpg21


    I was in the Philippines this year when the election was held there, there was huge vote rigging and attempts to rig the election against this Man; particularly by Mar Roxas the opposing candidate and incumbent party candidate. The rich and powerful elite who control the Philippines lost the election and Duterte is now ruling with an Iron fist; Drugs are a huge problem in the Philippines particularly Shabu (Crystal-Meth). A Filipina I know there was offered 5,000pesos (€95) to vote for a different candidate; she took the money but voted Duterte anyway. This 5,000 bribe would be equivalent of around €1,500 here in terms of time to earn it on minimum wage. She and her family were selected for payment due to party loyalty and close friendship with the local Barangay mayors daughter.

    Two days before the election nearly 2 million people went to hear him speak in Luneta park in Manila. The day before the election, tens of thousands of Buses all arrived into Manila and one of the greatest migrations of people I have seen began as several million people left the City to return home to the their Provinces, Villages and Barangays to vote as that would be where their vote is.

    On the day of election all bars were closed and Alcohol sales banned, a taxi trip which should have taken me over 2 hours across Metro Manila took 17 minutes as the entire city emptied out and people stayed home and off the roads. Their was a distinct eeriness to the whole thing as the Military were on high alert because people were prepared to fight if Duterte did not get elected and a Revolution would have taken place along EDSA; as it subsequently transpired Duterte got elected with 7 million votes to spare.

    The Philippines is not a huge country but has 105million people and is bursting at the rafters; corruption is its biggest problem and this guy Duterte is tackling the problems head on; one bullet at a time. It is the only way to do it and while he upsets liberals; he is certainly getting results.

    The only part of this comment I'm surprised by is when he got across the city in 17 minutes:O when I was there, a journey that was supposed to be a 15 minute drive took well over two hours.


  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Indeed my ex is addicted to online shopping, woulld save me a fortune if we lived in the Philippines.

    If Duterte sorted out items going missing in the postal system you would be in trouble.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭waraf


    Tow wrote: »
    Visit the country and talk to the people. They are sick and tried of 'lies, corruption and vote rigging'. His support is so strong the country would have fallen into civil war if he did not win.


    He won the election with a little under 40% of the votes so statistically more than half the population don't agree with his own particular brand of lunacy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 334 ✭✭skywanderer


    Dpg21 wrote: »
    The only part of this comment I'm surprised by is when he got across the city in 17 minutes:O when I was there, a journey that was supposed to be a 15 minute drive took well over two hours.

    It was around 17 mins although the Uber receipt says almost 22mins, loading and unloading my luggage would have accounted for that. The same journey a few days before would have taken 2hrs+. Add 7 hours for Philippines time and the journey took place at peak rush hour also.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭waraf


    ...The Philippines is not a huge country but has 105million people and is bursting at the rafters; corruption is its biggest problem and this guy Duterte is tackling the problems head on; one bullet at a time. It is the only way to do it and while he upsets liberals; he is certainly getting results.


    F**king hell - I reckon even Donald Trump would have a problem with that paragraph :eek:


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