EU hiring Irish translators

timmyntc · 04-07-2016 10:30AM

Riskymove wrote: »

I have no problem in funding being used to support Irish culture - including the language

Unfortunately, this matter will do absolutely nothing to help it.

It will encourage people to learn Irish as they may get a cushy govt 'job for life' out of it :rolleyes:

04-07-2016 10:42AM

Irish is our national language. The EU ignoring it would be quite disgraceful.

Want to know what is a complete pointless endeavor? A large company paying to translate content into Native American languages, which is spoken by a number much less than Irish. Plus one large chain of hotels looking to translate into a language, when said language is mostly spoken on that island, but the actual written one is Dutch.

ohnonotgmail · 05-07-2016 10:18AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Irish is our national language. The EU ignoring it would be quite disgraceful.

Want to know what is a complete pointless endeavor? A large company paying to translate content into Native American languages, which is spoken by a number much less than Irish. Plus one large chain of hotels looking to translate into a language, when said language is mostly spoken on that island, but the actual written one is Dutch.

the difference with your two examples is who is paying for it. if a company wants to waste its money it is free to do so. the same does not apply to public money.

Moo Moo Land · 05-07-2016 10:30AM

Complete and utter waste of money. Shamefully so.

beach_walker · 05-07-2016 10:42AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Irish is our national language. The EU ignoring it would be quite disgraceful.

This pretty much.

Lol at the outrage over the waste, I mean c'mon this is the EU we're talking about. You know the place that moves the entire circus once a month from Brussels to Strasbourg, for no reason and at a cost of over E100 million a year. Waste is a pillar of the institution.

Moo Moo Land · 05-07-2016 11:05AM

beach_walker wrote: »

This pretty much.

Lol at the outrage over the waste, I mean c'mon this is the EU we're talking about. You know the place that moves the entire circus once a month from Brussels to Strasbourg, for no reason and at a cost of over E100 million a year. Waste is a pillar of the institution.

Doesn't make it right.

beach_walker · 05-07-2016 11:22AM

Moo Moo Land wrote: »

Doesn't make it right.

Do you think Irish should be one of the 23 official languages of the EU?

05-07-2016 11:32AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the difference with your two examples is who is paying for it. if a company wants to waste its money it is free to do so. the same does not apply to public money.

Which public though? My understanding is that it is the EU hiring them, not the Irish government.

ohnonotgmail · 05-07-2016 11:32AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Which public though? My understanding is that it is the EU hiring them, not the Irish government.

and where does the eu get its money from? the magical money tree?

05-07-2016 11:34AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and where does the eu get its money from? the magical money tree?

You can bitch all you want, but Irish is our national language. It is our primary language. The EU ignoring this would be a huge slight against us.

Guaranteed if it didn't happen, someone else would be going, "hurr durr how dare the EU ignore our language? hurr durr". What you're essentially proving is that there's people that just want to complain and moan about anything.

gramar · 05-07-2016 11:52AM

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You can bitch all you want, but Irish is our national language. It is our primary language. The EU ignoring this would be a huge slight against us.

Guaranteed if it didn't happen, someone else would be going, "hurr durr how dare the EU ignore our language? hurr durr". What you're essentially proving is that there's people that just want to complain and moan about anything.

Jobs being created that use the Irish language in a practical and meaningful way would be welcomed but creating jobs for people to provide a service that virtually no-one will avail of is like giving a job to one person to dig a hole and a job to another person to fill it in.

ohnonotgmail · 05-07-2016 11:53AM

Deleted User wrote: »

You can bitch all you want, but Irish is our national language. It is our primary language. The EU ignoring this would be a huge slight against us.

Guaranteed if it didn't happen, someone else would be going, "hurr durr how dare the EU ignore our language? hurr durr". What you're essentially proving is that there's people that just want to complain and moan about anything.

and you have completely ignored what i said. well done.

Moo Moo Land · 05-07-2016 12:00PM

beach_walker wrote: »

Do you think Irish should be one of the 23 official languages of the EU?

Absolutely not. It's a joke.

Badly Drunk Boy · 05-07-2016 12:12PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and where does the eu get its money from? the magical money tree?

Well, it used to come from the £350 billion that the UK pay/paid every week. Doesn't that pay for everything in the EU?

wally79 · 05-07-2016 03:11PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Irish is our national language. It is our primary language.

National language yes but if you mean primary as in most important I'd have to disagree

05-07-2016 03:27PM

I think it's important that an Irish-speaking MEP or delegate should be allowed address an Institution of the EU through an official language. Otherwise we're left with situations like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDR6_EeUBdw

rainbow kirby · 05-07-2016 04:36PM

A friend of mine from college actually does this - he's a native speaker and studied Irish and French at college, he translates French language documents into Irish. Pretty handy number for him - he lives in Brussels, works from home most of the time and spends a lot of time travelling.

CaePae · 13-07-2016 10:10AM

Stupidity at its worst, is there even a single person in the EU who speaks Irish? I bet its never been spoken once in the EU parliment since they made it official in 07.

To be fair, its not the EU's fault, we are the idiots who insist on fooling ourselves that Irish is a language worth preserving.

I'm not worried though, when they realise that there is barely 60 people who can speak the language, never mind sufficiently qulified in it to take up the jobs available, the whole thing will be dropped. This could well be the end of the farce that is official status for Irish in the EU. Hopefully it is. Then the Irish people might wake up to the shame our government is inflicting on us by insisting that people be allowed to use this dead language. All the talk of referendums for this, that and the other, when can we have a referendum to toss Irish out of the constution? Then we can end the nonsence and kill Irish off once and for all.

beach_walker · 13-07-2016 10:25AM

CaePae wrote: »

Stupidity at its worst, is there even a single person in the EU who speaks Irish?

Yes.

I bet its never been spoken once in the EU parliment since they made it official in 07.

Video two posts above yours.

All the talk of referendums for this, that and the other, when can we have a referendum to toss Irish out of the constution?

It'd be defeated massively. You're dreaming to think otherwise.

CaePae · 13-07-2016 10:40AM

beach_walker wrote: »

Yes.

Video two posts above yours.

Ok, so what, its still the least used language in Europe.

It'd be defeated massively. You're dreaming to think otherwise.

Why? Nobody speaks Irish, why should anyone be against dropping this dead language thats like a millstone around our necks?

beach_walker · 13-07-2016 10:55AM

CaePae wrote: »

Ok, so what, its still the least used language in Europe.

So what? Well you were wrong... this is the internet, I couldn't leave that be. It's most definitely not the least used language in Europe.

For official EU languages, maybe. I think there's more speakers than Maltese.

Why? Nobody speaks Irish, why should anyone be against dropping this dead language thats like a millstone around our necks?

Why would it be defeated... well why would it pass? Can you point to any clamor for this, or which major parties have it as part of their manifesto? I can point you to numerous instances of Government backing down in the face of protests over perceived cutbacks in Irish, numerous groups which advocate furthering use of it, numerous groups (residents of Gaeltachts, professions which require the language and wish to keep the narrow entry criteria, people who well just like the language etc etc) who have an active interest in keeping its status... You've got After Hours... *Cough*

I'll take any bet on such a measure being defeated. As I said, dreaming.

CaePae · 13-07-2016 11:01AM

beach_walker wrote: »

numerous groups which advocate furthering use of it, numerous groups (residents of Gaeltachts, professions which require the language and wish to keep the narrow entry criteria

So you have special interest groups and a handfull of people with their noses in the trough on one side and 99.9% of the country on the other who are having to pay for their hobby. The sooner there is a referendum the better.

I think its well past time that this sacred cow was slaughtered. Or perhaps buried, given that its already a dead language.

CdeC · 13-07-2016 11:01AM

If they could use all that money to invest in the resurrection of the language it would be better spent.
There is no-one who cannot follow the talks in English.
I am a fan of the Irish language but real investment is needed. When my friend moved to Montreal he was given free French lessons. We should have this here.
free Irish lessons - Spoken language that is.

I would agree with the above poster. The EU should put the foot down.
Either the Irish government puts forward a plan to revive the language over x years with milestones required or else it gets the boot. Who are we kidding. Only ourselves.

beach_walker · 13-07-2016 11:05AM

CaePae wrote: »

So you have special interest groups and a handfull of people with their noses in the trough on one side and 99.9% of the country on the other who are having to pay for their hobby. The sooner there is a referendum the better.

Good luck with your lobbying for this, should be no bother according to yourself!

13-07-2016 11:23AM

CaePae wrote: »

Stupidity at its worst, is there even a single person in the EU who speaks Irish?

Speaking of "stupidity", considering that Ireland is in the EU the obvious answer would have to be, eh, yes.

CaePae · 13-07-2016 11:35AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Speaking of "stupidity", considering that Ireland is in the EU the obvious answer would have to be, eh, yes.

Working in the EU, not amongst the population of all EU member states. Of course there are a few dozen Irish speaking cavemen living under rocks in Conamara.

Is there a single person who would even be capable of understaing these translations in the EU instutions, beyond the people employed at huge expense to translate them?

Wibbs · 13-07-2016 11:41AM

Deleted User wrote: »

You can bitch all you want, but Irish is our national language. It is our primary language. .

At this stage B, in actual on the ground terms it is neither. It is a minority language of this nation artificially kept alive and barely at that.

beach_walker wrote: »

Lol at the outrage over the waste, I mean c'mon this is the EU we're talking about. You know the place that moves the entire circus once a month from Brussels to Strasbourg, for no reason and at a cost of over E100 million a year. Waste is a pillar of the institution.

True. The EU is what happens when civil servants and the public service come to political power. Huge waste, endless meetings, not very transparent, nitpicking to a silly degree, massive lining of department pockets and other quangos and an employment scheme for idiot sons of idiot sons. Fantastic gravy train to get onto if you can. Irish translation services just sum it up so well.

13-07-2016 11:41AM

CaePae wrote: »

The stupid leprechaun language that is Gaelic

CaePae wrote: »

Stupidity... this dead language.... Then we can end the nonsence and kill Irish off once and for all.

CaePae wrote: »

...dead language.

CaePae wrote: »

Why? Nobody speaks Irish, why should anyone be against dropping this dead language thats like a millstone around our necks?

You've posted a total of four posts on Boards.ie, all of which display a pathological hatred for Irish. Are you a rereg for IWasFrozen? If not, I think he's going to fall in love with you right in this thread.

PS: Chun a bheith macánta leat táim fíorchinnte gurb é an Béarla é féin ina bhró mhuilinn anuas ort/To be frank, the Queen's English is evidently a millstone around your own neck the way you're butchering it here.

CaePae · 13-07-2016 11:51AM

Deleted User wrote: »

You've posted a total of four posts on Boards.ie, all of which display a pathological hatred for Irish.

I don't hate Irish, if anything I care more about it than those who butcher it for their own gain. I just hate the way people are trying to use it to pad their pockets and give themselves an air of superiority over the rest of us, like the savage that takes pride in their squalor.

Moo Moo Land · 13-07-2016 12:55PM

Bloody hell, someone close the thread quick...we've gone full retard.

EU hiring Irish translators

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