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Classic Motoring Myths

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    #32
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,086 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    inforfun wrote: »
    On the fuel icon thing... I do rent cars quite a bit and only once i went wrong with the side of the car where the fuel flap was, based on the icon.
    Some brands do indeed have an extra arrow but in general you can go with the side of the icon the hose is.

    The hose is always on the right.


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    #33
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    pippip wrote: »
    The fuel tank icon in the fuel dial on the dash indicates the side of the fuel flap.

    I think this is a misconception on your part only. Most fuel gauges either have an arrow pointing to the fuel filler side or the fuel pump icon showing the filler hose on the left or right of the pump which indicates thr sude you should go to at the pumps.

    I have never heard that the side the actual gauge is on indicates the filler cap side and suspect you picked it up wrong with regard to the two types I mentioned above.


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    #34
    R1_Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭R1_Pete


    Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »
    That you need to let a cold engine idle for a while before driving off.

    I have a 2002 996, I would never start it cold and drive it away. You might not "need" to, particularly on a modern engine, but on some older stuff or some of the more highly strung engines I absolutely believe letting an engine get up to operating temperature before driving on it is a good idea.


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    #35
    Alanstrainor
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 23,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    R1_Pete wrote: »
    I have a 2002 996, I would never start it cold and drive it away. You might not "need" to, particularly on a modern engine, but on some older stuff or some of the more highly strung engines I absolutely believe letting an engine get up to operating temperature before driving on it is a good idea.

    Ah here, and what about the gearbox oil and other bits? Take it easy for the first 5 to 10 minutes until up to temp. Then rev the nuts off it.


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    #36
    R1_Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭R1_Pete


    Alanstrainor wrote: »
    Ah here, and what about the gearbox oil and other bits? Take it easy for the first 5 to 10 minutes until up to temp. Then rev the nuts off it.

    What about it?

    I would always let the car idle/run for a few minutes before I drive it. Then ill take it handy for a few minutes anyway.
    Ive had mine for 6+ years now and no mechanical issues whatsoever, so ill keep on with that approach...


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    #37
    shietpilot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    R1_Pete wrote: »
    What about it?

    I would always let the car idle/run for a few minutes before I drive it. Then ill take it handy for a few minutes anyway.
    Ive had mine for 6+ years now and no mechanical issues whatsoever, so ill keep on with that approach...

    Letting the engine warm up is just doing as much wear as driving it hard to honest.

    Think of it this way: The engine wears the least when it is up to temperature.

    If you let it get up to temperature VERY SLOW (idling on your driveway) the engine is running colder for a longer amount of time and it is causing wear.

    If you drive it like an F1 driver from the second the key is started the revs will be high and the engine will be cold which will also cause wear.

    Ideally you need to be somewhere in the middle which means just taking it handy for a while. This way you spend the least amount of time with the engine running cold and you don't drive it hard until it has warmed up. It's a balancing act.

    You can let the engine idle for a minute or so just to make sure the oil has recirculated properly around the engine and you are ready to drive it gently.


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    #38
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Myth: It's ok to pass on the lhs as long as you don't speed up to do so. A senior Garda said so.


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    #39
    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,105 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    I think this is a misconception on your part only. Most fuel gauges either have an arrow pointing to the fuel filler side or the fuel pump icon showing the filler hose on the left or right of the pump which indicates thr sude you should go to at the pumps.

    I have never heard that the side the actual gauge is on indicates the filler cap side and suspect you picked it up wrong with regard to the two types I mentioned above.

    Could you please be a bit less confusingling?

    Not your ornery onager



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    #40
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Go-faster stripes make the car go faster.


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    #41
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,086 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Esel wrote: »
    Could you please be a bit less confusingling?

    If there is an arrow next to the fuel gauge, that's the side your fuel filler cap is.


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    #42
    joujoujou
    Registered Users Posts: 13,568 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
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    Speed cameras are for safety.

    Speed kills.


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    #43
    ianobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    Mine is that the smallist engine that a manufacturer fits into a car model is going to be the most economic to run. Ask anybody with a 1.4 petrol Ford Focus or a modern diesel.


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    #44
    ianobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    Alanstrainor wrote: »
    Ah here, and what about the gearbox oil and other bits? Take it easy for the first 5 to 10 minutes until up to temp. Then rev the nuts off it.

    The gearbox is also turning, well the input shaft is. Thus it will be heating up also.

    I know on the vintage Escort i always leave it idle for a few minutes after cold starting. It's on carbs so they do need some "playing" with the choke and throttle before the idle settles down after 3 to 4 minutes. It may have something to do with the "slightly" improved Gasflow in the head, cam, carb, etc. Standard engines I don't leave idle before driving, I just leave the revs below 3k (petrol) or 2k (diesel) for the first 20km. I need that length for the oil to get to 90C in big diesels.


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    #45
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,086 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Maxol has the best fuel


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    #46
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,111 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Doesn't it?
    Mine doesn't anyway J and it's a Japanese car(which a few folks seem to reckon defo have this). The Fuel icon thingie shows the pump handle on the right hand (driver)side, but the filler is on the left(passenger).

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    Seatbelt icon is on backwards too and I have a hatch not a boot lid. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #47
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,834 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Eric Cartman wrote: »

    Well diesel was never designed for that. Is it alright for the whole thing to pack in - no, do you have to face facts when the DPF clogs or the turbos eat themselves - yeah.

    The myth that all diesels have DPFs.


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    #48
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Mine doesn't anyway J and it's a Japanese car(which a few folks seem to reckon defo have this). The Fuel icon thingie shows the pump handle on the right hand (driver)side, but the filler is on the left(passenger).

    391455.jpg

    Seatbelt icon is on backwards too and I have a hatch not a boot lid. :D

    Technically the fuel icon is right, thats the side of pump on the forecourt youd want to go to for a passenger fuel door


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    #49
    Joe 90
    Registered Users Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Joe 90


    R1_Pete wrote: »
    What about it?

    I would always let the car idle/run for a few minutes before I drive it. Then ill take it handy for a few minutes anyway.
    Ive had mine for 6+ years now and no mechanical issues whatsoever, so ill keep on with that approach...
    I agree with that. Had a K engined Elise for a couple of years followed by a VHPD Exige for 12 years and did just that. Waited until the temp guage started to show something before driving off and not caning it until well warmed up. Absolutly no engine trouble with either unless you count an alternator.
    For those who don't know, the K series is famous for it's consumption of head gaskets and the VHPD is a seriously tweaked version of the K.


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    #50
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,111 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Technically the fuel icon is right, thats the side of pump on the forecourt youd want to go to for a passenger fuel door
    Ah here EC…. g'way with your technically. :pac: Which I suppose means that yes all fuel dash icons are right. They either show you which side your filler is on or which side you should go to the pump. ;)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #51
    fancy pigeon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,863 ✭✭✭fancy pigeon


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Mine doesn't anyway J and it's a Japanese car(which a few folks seem to reckon defo have this). The Fuel icon thingie shows the pump handle on the right hand (driver)side, but the filler is on the left(passenger).

    391455.jpg

    Seatbelt icon is on backwards too and I have a hatch not a boot lid. :D

    300ZX is the same. Filler on the rear left, icon pointing the other way :p
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    The Merc has the exact same style of icon, pointing the same way. Filler is on the rear right :D


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    #52
    stesaurus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭stesaurus


    Electric cars are slow and useless
    Women can't park/drive, i'd say it's a pretty even split of terrible drivers in my experience
    You should always park a car in 1st gear(not just on a hill)
    Any generalisation about what country the manufacturer is based in, i.e French cars and electrics, Italian poorly built, American can't handle
    The back seat is really comfortable and spacious, no need for a hotel room. ;)


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    #53
    coylemj
    Registered Users Posts: 25,382 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    The image of a fuel pump on the fuel gauge appears to always show the hose on the right so it means absolutely nothing, it's just a universal icon telling that you're looking at the fuel gauge. It's the arrow (if there is one) beside the fuel pump which shows the side of the car the flap is on.


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    #54
    Cortina_MK_IV
    Registered Users Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭Cortina_MK_IV


    This is going to run to 20 pages talking about what side the f**king fuel filler cap is on. g6iDOqs.gif


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    #55
    MrDerp
    Registered Users Posts: 991 ✭✭✭MrDerp


    Myth: You have to queue, blocking the entrance to the petrol station if necessary, to use pumps on the same side as your fuel filler cap because petrol lines couldn't possibly reach the far side of your Clio.


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    #56
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Giacomo McGubbin wrote: »
    Classic examples I can think of include :

    - All French and Italian cars are unreliable
    - All "genuine" German cars such as VW's / Audis and BMW's are reliable
    - Toyota's are still as reliable as ever
    - Korean cars are still rubbish
    - Cheap Chinese tyres are as good as ordinary priced tyres
    - All UK imports are clocked and/or damaged repaired
    - The average Irish car is better kept and maintained and has better recorded service history than the average UK car
    - It's perfectly acceptable for expensive modern Diesel cars to pack up if they are largely used on short runs only

    Any more to add ?
    That should read most French/Italian cars


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    #57
    frozenfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 7,882 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    turning up the temperature on the air conditioning to save petrol. it just adds more heat.


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    #58
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,086 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Mine doesn't anyway J and it's a Japanese car(which a few folks seem to reckon defo have this). The Fuel icon thingie shows the pump handle on the right hand (driver)side, but the filler is on the left(passenger).

    391455.jpg

    Seatbelt icon is on backwards too and I have a hatch not a boot lid. :D

    The arrow (if u have one) points to the filler cap.. not the hose on the pump icon


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    #59
    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,086 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Filler on the left

    http://www.aa1car.com/library/fuel_gauge_analog.jpg


    Filler cap on the right

    https://blog.allstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Fuel-Gauge-Arrow-iStock.jpg


    Undetermined.. could be any side

    http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/1/183462_ts.jpg





    Note.. the pump icon is always the same.

    Its the arrow that tells the side that the filler cap is on


    MYTHBUSTED


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    #60
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    but what way is the icon in an old Jag ?


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    #61
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


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    RIGHT! Back to myths.
    Every single car, without exception will turn into an uninsurable and undriveable death trap the second the clock strikes midnight and it just turned 15 years old.


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