11 police shot, 4 officers dead after coordinated sniper fire at Dallas protest rally

Manic Moran · 09-07-2016 06:10PM

There is a line between bravery and stupidity. Be brave if it's the only way to get something done. Don't be stupid if there's a safer way of doing things. This is a ridiculous argument.

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 06:10PM

lawlolawl wrote: »

That's pretty much exactly what a coward would do

Define coward.

mynamejeff · 09-07-2016 06:10PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

Suggesting? The shooter risked his life, the police sent in a robot. These are cast iron facts, not suggestions. Now you can say risking your life is cowardly and using a robot is brave if you like, but we're into redefining pretty much universally accepted words of the English language then at that stage.

Again you just dont seem to understand so so much about the situation and events that took place.

Why would any one risk their lives to take into custody some one who doesn't care weather he lives or dies ?
that would be a stupid and senseless thing to do.

do you under stand this fairly simple basic concept ?

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 06:12PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

So you're saying the police aren't brave. OK.
Shooter puts his life on the line (for ****ed up reasons, yes) and the police won't. Who's the coward?

The police do put their life on the line every day. Just not unnecessarily.

dimwittedrep · 09-07-2016 06:15PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

There is a line between bravery and stupidity. Be brave if it's the only way to get something done. Don't be stupid if there's a safer way of doing things. This is a ridiculous argument.

If your objective is to kill policemen then I reckon there isn't really a safer way and he pretty much know what the outcome would be.
Still nobody can tell me how that makes him a coward.

dimwittedrep · 09-07-2016 06:18PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

Again you just dont seem to understand so so much about the situation and events that took place.

Why would any one risk their lives to take into custody some one who doesn't care weather he lives or dies ?
that would be a stupid and senseless thing to do.

do you under stand this fairly simple basic concept ?

Are you for or against paedophilia? You haven't made your position clear on this. Why not?
That's the same as you asking whether I think the police took the safest option. Of course they did. I've even stated this EXPLICITLY already.
Does that make the shooter a coward (the bleedin' topic, remember?)? No, it doesn't.

Sand · 09-07-2016 06:18PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

Still nobody can tell me how that makes him a coward.

Its as if its something important only to you.

mynamejeff · 09-07-2016 06:19PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

Couldn't give a monkey's about your lame insults TBH. "your" welcome.
Back to school again I'm afraid for you. I never said the police shouldn't use a robot, or that their tactics didn't get the job done.
Now, once more with feeling: what has this to do with the shooter apparently being a "coward"? You know, (if you actually do) the topic of this conversation?

What insults ? , i genuinely think you have some sort of problem.

the topic and thread title is " 11 police shot, 4 officers dead after coordinated sniper fire at dallas protest rally" Its at the top of the screen

dimwittedrep · 09-07-2016 06:19PM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Yeah, anyone who wants to own a gun in a country with such high crime must be a wacko.

These are all the armed guys who ran like blazes AWAY from the shooting? Really helped end a massacre quickly there didn't they, like the NRA is always telling people they would.

dimwittedrep · 09-07-2016 06:20PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

What insults ? , i genuinely think you have some sort of problem.

This is post wins the history of the universe awards for lack of self-awareness and unintended irony.

dimwittedrep · 09-07-2016 06:22PM

Sand wrote: »

Its as if its something important only to you.

Ah right. So people call the shooter a coward. When asked why, they talk total bollocks and then (this bit is good) it was apparently not on to ask them to explain why he was a coward at all in the first place. Because nobody cared you see. Oh yes.
Got it. Sort of.

mynamejeff · 09-07-2016 06:23PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

Are you for or against paedophilia? You haven't made your position clear on this. Why not?
That's the same as you asking whether I think the police took the safest option. Of course they did. I've even stated this EXPLICITLY already.
Does that make the shooter a coward (the bleedin' topic, remember?)? No, it doesn't.

??????????????????????????????????????????? WTF had pedophilia got to do with it ??

Starting to think that some of the other posters are right .......

mohawk · 09-07-2016 06:23PM

There is more to this then the police versus black community. I think Obama was being disingenuous saying police force is racist. It goes far deeper than that. The big issue here IMO is socioeconomic status. No matter where you go in the world most crime is committed in the poorest and most deprived areas. Is the real issue here that many black communities are stuck in poverty? Poor people of all races in America are more likely to have negative interactions with police. The racism is America isn't the police per say it's more that as a society they don't care that poverty affects black and Latino communities more then others.

Gatling · 09-07-2016 06:25PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

Still nobody can tell me how that makes him a coward.

Wouldn't say coward disalussioned armed and determined and with the odds at 200/1 he had balls for certain ,he injured 12 and killed 4 certainly not up there with previous mass shootings
But yet he didn't commit suicide by cop or at least go out guns blazing .

Mr. CooL ICE · 09-07-2016 06:27PM

Closed for review

Mr. CooL ICE · 09-07-2016 07:10PM

Mod:

Thread reopened. Lots of reports came in at once so a temporary closure was needed...

lawlolawl - Reporting a post doesn't automatically mean the post will get actioned. Whichever mod that deals with the report will look at the post in the context of the thread before making a decision to action or not. In more difficult cases, the mod will seek a 2nd opinion before doing anything. And anyone throwing abuse at you is no reason to abuse them back.

dimwittedrep - Stop asking loaded questions regarding paedophilia. It's pretty irrelevant to this thread and kinda weird.

To everyone else, stop the childish bickering. The last 200 posts worth of conversation was painful to read through. You are all capable of discussing this incident like adults.

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 07:16PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

These are all the armed guys who ran like blazes AWAY from the shooting? Really helped end a massacre quickly there didn't they, like the NRA is always telling people they would.

They did the right thing. When the police are present the police are in charge. When the police are not present your self-defence is your responsibility. It helps to have the tools to defend yourself in such a situation.

But the 2nd amendment is also there to protect yourself from the police. So if a protester is legally allowed to carry guns and feels that his safety might be in danger from arbitrary police brutality then a gun is a useful deterrent. America does have a history of violent crackdowns and being armed deters the police from getting violent, not that I think they would have, but theoretically the 2nd Amendment is to deter situations like the Boston Massacre or the Kent State shootings.

Little CuChulainn · 09-07-2016 08:40PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

So you're saying the police aren't brave. OK.
Shooter puts his life on the line (for ****ed up reasons, yes) and the police won't. Who's the coward?

The shooter. The police did put their life on the line. How do you think they got to within negotiating distance when he was shooting everyone in sight?

The_Kew_Tour · 09-07-2016 08:58PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

It's interesting that some people are insistent that the shooter was a coward when the police themselves used a remote controlled robot to blow up the suspect.
Brave brave joystick operator...

Well one wants to kill as many people as he can, the other side want to kill a man unwilling to cooperate and try to save lives.

Go figure

dimwittedrep · 09-07-2016 09:02PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Well one wants to kill as many people as he can, the other side want to kill a man unwilling to cooperate and try to save lives.

Go figure

Go figure what? You haven't even come close to the topic of whether he was a coward or not. What question do you even imagine you're answering?

SEPT 23 1989 · 09-07-2016 09:03PM

"No different then this no different than that"

Such a weak weak president

Sooner he is gone the better

The_Kew_Tour · 09-07-2016 09:04PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

Go figure what? You haven't even come close to the topic of whether he was a coward or not. What question do you even imagine you're answering?

He was hiding from the Police!!!

Hiding lol and you question that. Laughable

dimwittedrep · 09-07-2016 09:07PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

The shooter. The police did put their life on the line. How do you think they got to within negotiating distance when he was shooting everyone in sight?

Shooter who knew he was extremely likely to die and engaged the entire armed Dallas police force in a running battle was a coward. Police who sent in a remote controlled robot and blew him up were brave. Yeah.
Can you edit dictionary.com there because these are pretty much the opposite of any accepted definition of bravery and cowardice.
As 100+ posts ago, your only backing you have for calling the shooter a coward is "I don't like what he did". Neither do I BTW, but that's immaterial in this discussion.

Samaris · 09-07-2016 09:09PM

dimwittedrep wrote: »

Go figure what? You haven't even come close to the topic of whether he was a coward or not. What question do you even imagine you're answering?

The last few pages of this have been like standing watching a burning building and arguing ferociously if the rubbish bin nearby is flammable.

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 09:10PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

He was hiding from the Police!!!

Hiding lol and you question that. Laughable

By your logic all the men who fought in trenches in WW1 were "hiding" and therefore cowards. Burning my poppies now.

The_Kew_Tour · 09-07-2016 09:12PM

walshyn93 wrote: »

By your logic all the men who fought in trenches in WW1 were "hiding" and therefore cowards. Burning my poppies now.

**** logic totally different. And ya burn those poppies

dimwittedrep · 09-07-2016 09:29PM

Samaris wrote: »

The last few pages of this have been like standing watching a burning building and arguing ferociously if the rubbish bin nearby is flammable.

Well then maybe the people who came up with the "coward" thing should just have admitted they were wrong in the first place and we could have moved on.

Gatling · 09-07-2016 09:33PM

BLM protests will continue they also distanced themselves from people wanting to commit acts of violence against people who wear a badge and uniform.

And to think they have been labelled as a terror group by some quarters .

Imagine they eventually became a political party

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 09:48PM

Gatling wrote: »

BLM protests will continue they also distanced themselves from people wanting to commit acts of violence against people who wear a badge and uniform.

And to think they have been labelled as a terror group by some quarters .

Imagine they eventually became a political party

Whilst probably not meeting the criteria to be labelled as a terror group, their rhetoric and actions show that they and their supporters are full of people with a tendency toward violence or people who generally encourage acts of violence. I've seen cartoon memes shared by friends today (I may be revising that) on facebook from the US depicting a cop being executed ISIS style and people were saying stuff like "put them pigs in blankets".

Gatling · 09-07-2016 10:05PM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Whilst probably not meeting the criteria to be labelled as a terror group, their rhetoric and actions show that they and their supporters are full of people with a tendency toward violence or people who generally encourage acts of violence. I've seen cartoon memes shared by friends today (I may be revising that) on facebook from the US depicting a cop being executed ISIS style and people were saying stuff like "put them pigs in blankets".

Weren't you calling them to be banned yesterday?

:supporters are full of people with a tendency toward violence or people who generally encourage acts of violence."

Bit of a reach and generalisation of a protest group so far peacefully protesting across the US for the most part .

As for the meme ( Jeremy )

11 police shot, 4 officers dead after coordinated sniper fire at Dallas protest rally

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