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Anxiety and depression thread (Please read OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,110 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I now have another problem. I fell asleep last night after my last post. My eldest came in to borrow the laptop (mine is connected to the printer by wi-fi). The computer was open on this page. She was very quiet when I got up. I dont know what to say or even if I should approach it.

    I wouldn't say anything unless she says it to you or you notice her particularly different.
    If ye do end up talking, try to reassure her that while it's difficult, there are options and it will be Ok.

    My personal opinion would be to try to avoid talking to her about her mother and how she treats you. Now isn't the time for that I think but I'm not in the situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    Thanks, everyone.

    I now have another problem. I fell asleep last night after my last post. My eldest came in to borrow the laptop (mine is connected to the printer by wi-fi). The computer was open on this page.
    She was very quiet when I got up.
    I dont know what to say or even if I should approach it.

    Im just thinking out loud.

    Can only say what I personally would do, so don't take this as advice.

    For me it'd be time for a serious conversation, out somewhere away from the house, just the two of you. It's terribly difficult, and sometimes alienating, when you know there's something wrong with someone you love, but they won't share it or ask for help. It might be good for them to know they're one of the most important parts of your life, that help you keep going, without them even realising it. And it might be that you won't have to put on a brave face all the time around them. You might feel safer, and less weighed down. If you talk, try to focus on your feelings, and not external causes and pressures. It might be very hard for her if she starts feeling a need to blame particular people. Clarity is more helpful there than uncertainty. Try and be objective, avoiding blame and anger if possible. Concentrate on how much you love her.

    But again... don't take my word for it. Everyone is different. This is just what I would do.
    My personal opinion would be to try to avoid talking to her about her mother and how she treats you. Now isn't the time for that I think but I'm not in the situation.
    Would totally agree with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 SAINTBRIGID


    Its funny, I had to drop her to work this morning, was all chat all the way in.
    When she got out of the car she asked if I'd like to meet her for lunch in Dublin, her treat.

    I came across the The Depression Recovery Program leaflet on St Pats website. I think its what I need. I need to know whats "normal". If everyone else is normal does that make me abnormal?

    One thing is for sure I aint living - I am existing.

    As Ive said I have an appointment with a shrink next week, hopefully its a turning point.

    xx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 maca123


    I think with benzos most GPs will advise a taper, to be honest they don't know what they're at if they don't! Benzo withdrawals can be very nasty. :( If possible, try to arrange some time off work while you're tapering ... I know this mightn't be practical though.

    Try attending a Lifering meeting too, if there are any in your area - you might meet some people who have been through similar.

    Yeah I hope that;s the case. I just started a job. This feels like my last chance to fix my job situation, get out of my parents at my age since i lost my job 3 years ago.

    I can't mess this up. I'll only mess it up if I can't get benzos. I only got addicted to them because i couldnt go there without them. I can function on them not w/o them. That's the reality i got myself in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭trixychic


    Its funny, I had to drop her to work this morning, was all chat all the way in.
    When she got out of the car she asked if I'd like to meet her for lunch in Dublin, her treat.

    I came across the The Depression Recovery Program leaflet on St Pats website. I think its what I need. I need to know whats "normal". If everyone else is normal does that make me abnormal?

    One thing is for sure I aint living - I am existing.

    As Ive said I have an appointment with a shrink next week, hopefully its a turning point.

    xx

    Hope it goes well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭ivytwine


    Hi guys I'm just looking to have a little vent. Get anxious at the best of times but the last few months I've self sabotaged and procrastinated and feel really rotten about myself.

    It was improving and I've started seeing someone but he's got issues too. He's pushing me away and it hurts. I can't turn to him because he has enough on his plate but I don't know if I'm strong enough to be the support he needs. I feel really emotional at the moment and anxious, he feels really disconnected.

    I wrecked my dinner this evening and I started crying. Feel really crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭StripedBoxers


    @ SAINTBRIGID - I hope you are okay and I hope things improve for you soon. Huge hugs.
    ivytwine wrote: »
    Hi guys I'm just looking to have a little vent. Get anxious at the best of times but the last few months I've self sabotaged and procrastinated and feel really rotten about myself.

    It was improving and I've started seeing someone but he's got issues too. He's pushing me away and it hurts. I can't turn to him because he has enough on his plate but I don't know if I'm strong enough to be the support he needs. I feel really emotional at the moment and anxious, he feels really disconnected.

    I wrecked my dinner this evening and I started crying. Feel really crap.
    I would say if he has issues too and is pushing you away maybe its time to end things before they get more serious? Its very hard I know, but you have to put yourself and your mental health first, his issues are already affecting you negatively and that's not a good thing especially when you are going through stuff yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭ivytwine


    @ SAINTBRIGID - I hope you are okay and I hope things improve for you soon. Huge hugs.

    I would say if he has issues too and is pushing you away maybe its time to end things before they get more serious? Its very hard I know, but you have to put yourself and your mental health first, his issues are already affecting you negatively and that's not a good thing especially when you are going through stuff yourself.

    Thanks Striped Boxers. It just sucks because I really, really liked him. I hadn't felt so enthusiastic about a guy in a long time, and when it's good it's wonderful :/ and I know he likes me too, he's just feeling scared and undeserving. but yeah I don't think he can give me what I need.

    I've a very busy week coming up, I won't be spending a night at home! And then I'm going home home next weekend. I think I'll give him space until I'm back here and then suggest the cinema or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Notsomindful


    Hope everyone had a good weekend.
    Hada unnerving situation : my partner/ex said he didnt want to hear about my psycho friends.
    Meaning my friends with mental health issues.
    Tbh, this is final straw for our relationship.
    He thinks I want to be unwell despite me trying my hardest with support s, counseling etc.

    Very hurt. Feel I am being blamed for my illness. Eye opening to see true side of someone. He is very almost angry over past few years but no excuse for that behavior


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Turtle_


    I'm a month off all meds. I think the original diagnosis was wrong or incomplete. Within a week of coming off the meds I've had intrusive thoughts, same sh1t as before, and they haven't gone away. Thankfully not violent, but I don't think this level of intrusive thoughts tallies with GAD. Maybe it does though. I really miss not having them so much. It's making me want to go back on the meds but I really really want to lose weight so I can't.

    And there was me thinking I was cured


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Hope everyone had a good weekend.
    Hada unnerving situation : my partner/ex said he didnt want to hear about my psycho friends.
    Meaning my friends with mental health issues.
    Tbh, this is final straw for our relationship.
    He thinks I want to be unwell despite me trying my hardest with support s, counseling etc.

    Very hurt. Feel I am being blamed for my illness. Eye opening to see true side of someone. He is very almost angry over past few years but no excuse for that behavior

    Words can be very hurtful, they usually come from a place of frustration

    Take care and all the best with your supports


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Wide awake again, cos I slept all day!!! aargh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭Caiseoipe19


    I hear ya. :L


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭worded


    This is a pod cast on stress, though it was an interesting listen

    http://www.radiolab.org/story/91580-stress/

    Wide awake and can't sleep


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Still awake!!! Might fall asleep around 6! I only got up at 7.30 this eve mind!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Notsomindful


    Thanks guys, he had passed some hurtful remarks lately but that hurt.
    Ironic thing is 2 of his friends have bipolar .i wonder how they'd feel to hear him say it .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭alaskayoung


    Hey guys,

    Head hasn't shut up since I got up this morning so hoping if I try to articulate some of it, I can relax it a little. I've never really had issues with anxiety in the past, my problems have always stemmed from depression even though the two often go hand in hand. Lately though I just feel like there's a growing ball of anxiety in my stomach and my chest is tight nearly all the time, feel so agitated and restless and it's driving me crazy. I'm nearly certain that my eating disorder is bringing it on, it'd be too much of a coincidence if that weren't the case but my anxiety manifests itself in my body image which drives me to eating disorder behaviours and the whole thing just feels like a vicious cycle that I'm trapped in at this stage. Meeting my psychologist tomorrow morning and we're going to be concentrating on my eating disorder for the foreseeable future as that's become my primary issue so hoping that will help. At the same time though, I worry if it becomes the main topic of conversation that it'll only encourage the behaviour as I'll feel like I somehow have to match certain expectations or prove myself in a way, that said my issues don't appear to be resolving themselves any time soon so I don't suppose I have a choice in the matter. I really feel like a ticking bomb at the moment, that I only have limited time before I reach crisis point.

    Thankfully I got to meet officially with my new consultant last week for the first time. I had met her once before as an inpatient a few weeks ago before my care was transferred and found her to be very good. She's very down to earth, very practical, honest and straightforward which I like. She spent a lot of time speaking with me, I didn't feel rushed, she had read the letter I had given one of the psychiatrists under her the week before and spoken about me to my old consultant to determine her reasoning on various aspects of the treatment I've been given so I very much appreciated the thought and time she gave me. I didn't get some of the answers I was looking for regarding diagnosis as she said she's not going to slap a label on me the very first time she meets me, which makes complete sense but she told me she's going to keep a completely open mind which is all I ever really wanted. I'm to keep a mood diary for the next few months, nothing emotional, just looking at rating mood, energy levels, sleep etc; appetite is usually included but having an eating disorder makes that impossible as it's completely contrived. She said it's been very difficult for my team to get a clear picture of how my mood fluctuates as ever since I entered the service it's just been one thing after another, moving from crisis to crisis and between reactions to various medications and the influence of drugs and alcohol they haven't been able to tell what's natural and what's as a result of my behaviour. She said even now, my mood will be influenced by my eating disorder to a certain degree but if I can try to keep things more consistent over the next few months, they'll have a better picture. She said that if after that she thinks I lie on the bipolar spectrum she'll be referring me on to another team who run a bipolar clinic but for now to just try and get through each day as best I can, diagnosis takes observation over time and unfortunately time goes at it's own pace. I acknowledged that I do put far more thought into labels than I probably should but I guess that's just me trying to make sense of things. I haven't been put on any medication as she wants to see how I am naturally so I won't be seeing her for another 6-8 weeks as she said she doesn't really have a role at the moment, I'm to just continue attending my DBT group and begin treatment for my eating disorder with my psychologist. So no real outcomes or changes as a result of the meeting but I came out very happy because for the first time in nearly a year, I felt LISTENED TO rather than patronised.

    Finding it difficult to pass the time at the moment, I have an intrinsic need to be constantly productive which is obviously unattainable. I find it difficult to just "do nothing", nothing being anything of leisure such as reading, watching tv etc. I end up feeling guilty for being lazy or "wasting time". Basically just wish my head would just shut up and leave me alone for awhile!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭veganrun


    Been a while since I posted here. I went back on citalopram last summer and I'm coming off them now. Been seeing my GP regularly enough and we both feel like it's a good time to come off them but she left the decision to me. I'm happy enough to be coming off them I think.

    I guess a few things have changed in the last year. I moved home and got a new job and I guess I'm happier than I was. It's funny though, I still don't feel really "settled" as such. I figured I would always move home at some point from Dublin but now that I'm here, I'm not sure it's a long term plan.

    My job requires quite a commute each day and while that's fine as I'm single, it does take up a lot of time. I was talking to one of my sister's who lives in the city where I work and I was saying how I wasn't sure if I was going to move closer to work or not and she said "I guess it depends how long you plan to stay here". It was weird but I hadn't thought of it like that. I never, ever think like "Ok, this is where I want to stay long-term". I never feel like that about anywhere, perhaps except the US but that was when I lived there back when I was 21/22 and I'm 39 now.

    I guess I've been going through one of those "what am I doing with my life, where are things going?" phases. I'm not in a relationship, never been in anything long term, and I'm back living at home. I guess I always saw moving home as temporary until I moved closed to work but I haven't moved.

    I spent a year in Australia back in my twenties and funnily enough I started just imagining going back and even briefly looked at job listings. More out of curiosity than anything. I then started to think how if I had the chance to go now, I would almost certainly not take it. I was always a worrier but it seems to have got worse since I realised I had anxiety. Now I think "What if I get sick, what if my anxiety kicks into overdrive, what if I get panic attacks?" Loads of stuff like that. Then as luck would have it, I found out my best friend growing up is moving to Australia. It's great news for him but straight away I thought "What the f*** am I doing with my life?" Everyone else is married, has children, own's homes, moving away and I'm back living at home like I'm 16.

    I'm not sure what the answer is to be honest. But I've started to worry I'm getting too old to get married and stuff like that which I know is stupid as I'm not that old!

    But I feel like I should make a positive decision and move forward in my life. Just not sure what that should be. I think hearing my friend is moving to Australia has kind of given me a kick up the backside to do something! Just don't know what!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Lady is a tramp


    Alaskayoung your consultant sounds amazing, very like mine actually! It makes all the difference when you can really trust the person in charge of your care ... my consultant is the most "human" doctor I've ever encountered! She has all the time in the world for me, I never feel rushed, and she actually genuinely cares ... and refuses to give up on me, even when I want to give up on myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭bridgettedon


    Very upset this evening. Have gotten some very bad news. I just feel so bad that I didn't help this person earlier. I knew there was something wrong but I was so caught up in my own world.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Turtle_


    Very upset this evening. Have gotten some very bad news. I just feel so bad that I didn't help this person earlier. I knew there was something wrong but I was so caught up in my own world.

    I'm so sorry. I don't know what to say that won't sound very hollow. It's not your fault though. It really is not your fault. Look after yourself x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,110 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Very upset this evening. Have gotten some very bad news. I just feel so bad that I didn't help this person earlier. I knew there was something wrong but I was so caught up in my own world.

    Don't beat yourself up bridgettedon. You're trying to do as much as you can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭bridgettedon


    Don't beat yourself up bridgettedon. You're trying to do as much as you can.

    Thanks guys. It may mean that a family member is heading down the same road as me. I know how long and crap that road is. The guilt though is overwhelming. I can't stop crying. I was always so mean to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,110 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Thanks guys. It may mean that a family member is heading down the same road as me. I know how long and crap that road is. The guilt though is overwhelming. I can't stop crying. I was always so mean to them.

    It "may" mean. Nothing is certain.
    Its not too late to offer what support you can.
    I hope you have someone you can talk to about this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭bridgettedon


    It "may" mean. Nothing is certain.
    Its not too late to offer what support you can.
    I hope you have someone you can talk to about this?

    It's true. But it hurts so bad to see someone cry and talk about suicidal thoughts. To know they have suffered for months even years. Don't have anyone to talk to atm, just here. I may make a doctor apt. I have a psych apt tomorrow. I don't want to be crying in front of them because I know I'll get little sympathy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,178 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭bridgettedon


    Feel a bit better today once the initial shock as worn off. Had a small bit of a meltdown earlier but managed to use my skills to stop it. I just have to keep reminding myself that the past can't be changed. Anyway the person I was worried about has been to their gp so fingers crossed that they continue with their advice. It just reminds me again how important it is that we talk to each other. No one should suffer in silence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,110 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Well done B. Peaks and troughs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Lady is a tramp


    Ugh. Anxiety levels are so high.

    I keep looking at this photo of my dad and my little baby nephew that was taken a few days ago. It's a gorgeous photo, but I'm absolutely terrified that my dad's going to drop the baby onto the tiled kitchen floor. It just looks so unsafe, how he's holding him. And it's such an irrational fear, I mean as I said this was a few days ago, nothing happened, no babies were dropped, everyone is fine!

    And tomorrow my brother and his fiancee are visiting with the baby and I'm already panicking because I'll have to hold him and I'll be shaking and sweating and so afraid that I'll break him. :( You wouldn't think I had one of my own! God knows how I got through those early months. I spent most days and nights of maternity leave in absolute fear and horror of something happening to him. :(

    It's going to be a long night, I think. I've sleeping pills somewhere but I just have no energy to look for them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Notsomindful


    Saw my consultant today - last day of other meds tomorrow. Which is good, then no antidepressant for a month until we decide next step.

    She really listens but never know when I will see her.
    She doesn't rush into things, overall i find that she is great yet if I need suport outside of outpatients is when issues arise.

    She listens, it is becoming a sad part of my reality that suicidal ideation will always be part of me and no real medication can deal with it.. I would love some meds that worked to help the thoughts and continue working hard on my therapy ( prob find it easier than now)

    One can dream.


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