11 police shot, 4 officers dead after coordinated sniper fire at Dallas protest rally

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 12:48AM

Christy42 wrote: »

http://www.msnbc.com/the-reid-report/the-truth-about-the-dead-cops-chant

This chant or did I miss something? In the article the organisers of the March disown any encouragement of violence.

You're posting an opinion piece from MSNBC of all places.

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 12:49AM

Gatling wrote: »

Your actually wrong

Good point, well argued.

Gatling · 09-07-2016 12:51AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Good point, well argued.

Sorry do not like the facts .

The shooter wasn't a sniper he carried out a mass shooting minus any specialist sniper rifle he didn't need a heavy calibre rifle to do what he did

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 12:53AM

Gatling wrote: »

Sorry do not like the facts .

The shooter wasn't a sniper he carried out a mass shooting minus any specialist sniper rifle he didn't need a heavy calibre rifle to do what he did

Sorry but "sniper" is not a gun. A sniper is a person. A sniper rifle is any gun used by a sniper. I know you've played a lot of video games but you're out of your depth

Christy42 · 09-07-2016 12:54AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

You're posting an opinion piece from MSNBC of all places.

Is the quote disowning any violent chants wrong?

Was it chanted at another march?

I haven't heard about this chant and this was the first link I found. Do you have a better one? It is easily the most reliable of the links that came up on an admittedly quick Google search.

And about the fatherless comment?

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 12:58AM

Christy42 wrote: »

Is the quote disowning any violent chants wrong?

Was it chanted at another march?

I haven't heard about this chant and this was the first link I found. Do you have a better one? It is easily the most reliable of the links that came up on an admittedly quick Google search.

And about the fatherless comment?

I heard the chant on video myself when it happened. Even from footage today after the attacks people were shouting threats at the police, including triumphalist remarks about them deserving to be shot, this was as the sniper was still active. The movement is not defined by one person it's defined by the type of people in it. I don't care if they disavow it, they could be lying. Actions speak louder than words.

Gatling · 09-07-2016 01:01AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Sorry but "sniper" is not a gun. A sniper is a person. A sniper rifle is any gun used by a sniper.

A sniper is a highly trained and qualified soldier .

This was a mass shooting carried our by a disalusional man with a 70 year old $200 -$300 gun .

Not a sniper by any stretch ..

Gatling · 09-07-2016 01:05AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

I heard the chant on video myself when it happened. Even from footage today after the attacks people were shouting threats at the police, including triumphalist remarks about them deserving to be shot, this was as the sniper was still active.

Post to the proof of these claims actually

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 01:12AM

Gatling wrote: »

A sniper is a highly trained and qualified soldier .

This was a mass shooting carried our by a disalusional man with a 70 year old $200 -$300 gun .

Not a sniper by any stretch ..

Do you know him?

You know he was a veteran, right? You know they found a cache of homemade explosives and a journal of combat tactics in his house, right? You do have some penchant for talking pure s*** don't you.

Some people who kill people are actually not nutters, you know that., right? Or are you firmly in fantasy movie land.

dimwittedrep · 09-07-2016 01:14AM

Apparently there were at least 20 "civilians" wandering around Dallas with rifles and body armour so the police had difficulty singling out the shooter.
I sh1t thee not.

Gatling · 09-07-2016 01:24AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Do you know him?

You know he was a veteran, right?

A carpenter and stone mason in the reserve yes I pointed that our hours ago .

Any how this thing where you claimed to have heard chanting at this rally and during the shooting can you link to the sources you heard zero mention any where in the media or elsewhere

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 01:27AM

Gatling wrote: »

Post to the proof of these claims actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-dr_IhQu-I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8ZUOmne9I This one is fairly incomprehensible but I hear the same man shout "that's why y'all get (incomprehensible)" twice after around 40 seconds in.

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 01:29AM

Gatling wrote: »

A carpenter and stone mason in the reserve yes I pointed that our hours ago .

I'm sure you did. You've been getting things wrong all night, talking about subjects about which you know very little, Googling frantically as you go to cover over your mistakes with side facts. Better give it a rest.

Gatling · 09-07-2016 01:33AM

[/quote]
[This one is fairly incomprehensible but I hear the same man shout "that's why y'all get (incomprehensible)" twice after around 40 seconds in.[/quote]

Is that it

Gatling · 09-07-2016 01:36AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Googling frantically as you go to cover over your mistakes with side facts. Better give it a rest.

Is that an attempt at keyboard warriorism.

Not sure that or trolling

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 01:38AM

Gatling wrote: »

[This one is fairly incomprehensible but I hear the same man shout "that's why y'all get (incomprehensible)" twice after around 40 seconds in.[/quote]

Is that it[/QUOTE]

Actually at exactly 46 seconds in a different man says quite clearly "that's why y'all get shot". I can't hear exactly what the others are saying but it doesn't sound very nice, does it?

Gatling · 09-07-2016 01:46AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

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Is that it[/QUOTE]

I can't hear exactly what the others are saying but it doesn't sound very nice,[/quote]

So filing in something to make it sound sensational it doesn't sound nice ,
Like when people post comments because they lost a discussion

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 01:48AM

Gatling wrote: »

Is that an attempt at keyboard warriorism.

Not sure that or trolling

You haven't made a point in quite some time that wasn't trying to cover over your ignorance of the facts which I pointed out with more related facts you Googled post hoc to make it appear as though you were right all along.

Him being in the reserve meaning he could still be incompetent with firearms meaning you were right all along. :rolleyes:

Him not being a "sniper" because he didn't use a "sniper rifle" :rolleyes:

Then him not being a "sniper" because he's not a "highly trained and qualified soldier" :rolleyes:

You're continually moving the goalposts to save face. Then the classic resort to accusations of trolling.

StringerBell · 09-07-2016 01:49AM

Reminds me of a line in a tupac song, "Just think, if N****z decides to retaliate"

My heart goes out to the world lately, such troubling times for the human race as a whole, seems to be more division rather then unity spreading.

RDM_83 again · 09-07-2016 01:50AM

Gatling wrote: »

A sniper is a highly trained and qualified soldier .

This was a mass shooting carried our by a disalusional man with a 70 year old $200 -$300 gun .

Not a sniper by any stretch ..

I'm sorry but your saying the IRA never had snipers, because thats actually what your saying? I am guessing the IRA the UK government and all the media I have seen are wrong then, I know nothing really much about firearms but sniping is a role not a weapon or a training (the name is from hunters who were snipe shooters)

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

It's a fairly gloomy situation. The police will understandably be very jumpy so risk shooting more people. The cops shooting people could elicit further reprisals which will make the cops even more nervous... and so on, and so on.

I hope to goodness it all calms down and nobody else gets hurt.

This, it sort of reminds me of eric cartman bouncing around saying "race war" "race war"

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 01:52AM

Gatling wrote: »

Is that it

I can't hear exactly what the others are saying but it doesn't sound very nice,[/quote]

So filing in something to make it sound sensational it doesn't sound nice ,
Like when people post comments because they lost a discussion[/QUOTE]

I didn't fill anything in. You can clearly hear "that's why y'all get shot". The rest is up to you to comprehend if you wish.

Gatling · 09-07-2016 01:52AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

You haven't made a point in quite some time that wasn't trying to cover over your ignorance of the facts which I pointed out with more related facts you Googled post hoc to make it appear as though you were right all along.

Him being in the reserve meaning he could still be incompetent with firearms meaning you were right all along. :rolleyes:

Him not being a "sniper" because he didn't use a "sniper rifle" :rolleyes:

Then him not being a "sniper" because he's not a "highly trained and qualified soldier" :rolleyes:

You're continually moving the goalposts to save face. Then the classic resort to accusations of trolling.

Is there a reason to this at all like .

Is there anything you need help with to add to the discussion clearly your lost somewhere in trying to a prove a point that isn't here ie trolling

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 01:58AM

Gatling wrote: »

Is there a reason to this at all like .

Is there anything you need help with to add to the discussion clearly your lost somewhere in trying to a prove a point that isn't here ie trolling

No, you're not being trolled you're just losing the argument. He was a sniper as I have aptly demonstrated.

Gatling · 09-07-2016 02:20AM

Anyway back to the facts as they came in

Protest takes place no issues suddenly we have gun fire .
Apparently from several elevated positions involving multiple shooters with AR15s and Sniper rifles .
Video then appears showing a cop getting shot at ground level who appeared to moving in a totally different direction ..
Shooter then flees to a car park and later gets blown up by police .not before stating he worked alone and had no criminal history or affiations

seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around about what and how it actually happened .
200+ cops on duty at the actual protest 12 of which discharged their weapons during the situation

gctest50 · 09-07-2016 02:28AM

Gatling wrote: »

A sniper is a highly trained and qualified soldier .Not a sniper by any stretch ..

A sniper is someone who shoots people from a hidden position

Gatling wrote: »

This was a mass shooting carried our by a disalusional man with a 70 year old $200 -$300 gun .

seems to work, may be far far from the latest, won't improve your day getting hit by a bullet from it though

( remember now : real life = no respawns )

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 02:32AM

Gatling wrote: »

Anyway back to the facts as they came in

Protest takes place no issues suddenly we have gun fire .
Apparently from several elevated positions involving multiple shooters with AR15s and Sniper rifles .
Video then appears showing a cop getting shot at ground level who appeared to moving in a totally different direction ..
Shooter then flees to a car park and later gets blown up by police .not before stating he worked alone and had no criminal history or affiations

seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around about what and how it actually happened .
200+ cops on duty at the actual protest 12 of which discharged their weapons during the situation

The reason they suspected multiple shooters is because he used the shoot and move tactics he wrote about in his journal. He kept moving to different levels. The AR15 is a particular style of rifle, how anyone would glean that information before the shooter had been apprehended is beyond me, but it is typical of the media to insert their little buzzword to try and tie events into their narrative.

Gatling · 09-07-2016 02:35AM

gctest50 wrote: »

seems to work, may far from the latest, won't improve your day getting hit by a bullet from it

Totally agree I said it was an unusual choice for a mass shooting ,
At least expected something a little more modern with the capability to use high capacity mags at least and easy to meneuver.
Not a antique.

But as repeatedly shown through the years one disalusional person with a gun can wreak havoc

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 02:38AM

Gatling wrote: »

Totally agree I said it was an unusual choice for a mass shooting ,
At least expected something a little more modern with the capability to use high capacity mags at least and easy to meneuver.
Not a antique.

But as repeatedly shown through the years one disalusional person with a gun can wreak havoc

How do you know he's delusional? Have you met him?

FortySeven · 09-07-2016 02:45AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

The reason they suspected multiple shooters is because he used the shoot and move tactics he wrote about in his journal. He kept moving to different levels. The AR15 is a particular style of rifle, how anyone would glean that information before the shooter had been apprehended is beyond me, but it is typical of the media to insert their little buzzword to try and tie events into their narrative.

There was an eyewitness who saw the pillar shooting at street level. They were looping him every 30 minutes on news channels. He identified the weapon as an AR15. It is a widely held and recognised weapon in the US. That's how it got widely disseminated.

No talent required to know shoot and scoot tactics. Anyone who ever read tom Clancy, Robert Ludlum, Andy mcnabb or any war history books would be able to use it, pretty basic stuff, don't stand where they are shooting. Move.

walshyn93 · 09-07-2016 02:58AM

FortySeven wrote: »

There was an eyewitness who saw the pillar shooting at street level. They were looping him every 30 minutes on news channels. He identified the weapon as an AR15. It is a widely held and recognised weapon in the US. That's how it got widely disseminated.

No talent required to know shoot and scoot tactics. Anyone who ever read tom Clancy, Robert Ludlum, Andy mcnabb or any war history books would be able to use it, pretty basic stuff, don't stand where they are shooting. Move.

I didn't say it required talent, but I happen to think it probably does require some amount of skill to do what he did. Given the level of planning required I think attempts to dismiss him as a lunatic are fairly transparent.

11 police shot, 4 officers dead after coordinated sniper fire at Dallas protest rally

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