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Irish immunity to psychoanalysis

  • 08-07-2016 08:45PM
    #1
    Ronald Wilson Reagan
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    Does the supposed assumption that the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis hold any water.


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  • #2
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    You know what happens when you use an assumption?!

    You make an ass-outta-u-and-mption.

    Wait, no thats not right. Oh look, you got the word "anal" in there OP!

    Good job!


  • #3
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No.


  • #4
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »
    Does the supposed assumption that the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis hold any water.

    As a fundamental basis to conspiracy theories, yes. Otherwise, no.


  • #5
    Ronald Wilson Reagan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 282 ✭✭Ronald Wilson Reagan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No.

    But can an assumption be supposed?


  • #6
    s4uv3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »
    But can an assumption be supposed?

    An assumption is assumed


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  • #7
    Dravokivich
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    I'd recommend some sort of cup or bottle.


  • #8
    goose2005
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    It wasn't freud who said it, it was Anthony Burgess. And anyway classical "psychoanalysis" is largely discredited


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
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    Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »
    But can an assumption be supposed?

    Well assumptions tend not to be based on fact. It is not factual to say that Irish people are immune to psychoanalysis.

    The 'supposed' part exists because it is unclear whether such an assumption was ever made. I think it was attributed to Freud. If indeed he did assume such a thing then it might have come from his own issues residing in his unconscious. Freud made a bit of a hames of a few patients of his.


  • #10
    [Deleted User]
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    goose2005 wrote: »
    It wasn't freud who said it, it was Anthony Burgess. And anyway classical "psychoanalysis" is largely discredited

    Ah I wasn't sure.

    Credit is due for it being the beginning of 'talk therapy'.


  • #11
    maxwell smart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »
    Does the supposed assumption that the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis hold any water.

    Sounds like the title of a thesis, get writing and we'll all have a read of it when your finished. Then we can make an informed decision :D


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  • #12
    Renegade Mechanic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Psycho wha? D'you think we're gay or something?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmTgpsvkqt8


  • #13
    maudgonner
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    Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »
    Does the supposed assumption that the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis hold any water.

    Assumptions aren't great for holding water. Try a jug.


  • #14
    Ronald Wilson Reagan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 282 ✭✭Ronald Wilson Reagan


    maudgonner wrote: »
    Assumptions aren't great for holding water. Try a jug.

    I was always told never **** where you eat or in this case piss where you drink.


  • #15
    FunLover18
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    Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »
    Does the supposed assumption that the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis hold any water.

    You're deflecting. What's this really about, OP? Is it you incontinence?


  • #16
    Wibbs
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    Let's face it, if one looks at the actual hard science, psychoanalysis is mostly snake oil and quackery and continues to be so down to today. As a set of philosophical musings it has some merit from Freud through Jung, but in practical terms? Eh… mostly no. Placebo is strooooong. Which is cool too, if people feel better.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #17
    fryup
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    the irish are half mad, end of


  • #18
    XR3i
    Site Banned Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭XR3i


    the problem is not with me, it's with you


  • #19
    [Deleted User]
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Let's face it, if one looks at the actual hard science, psychoanalysis is mostly snake oil and quackery and continues to be so down to today. As a set of philosophical musings it has some merit from Freud through Jung, but in practical terms? Eh… mostly no. Placebo is strooooong. Which is cool too, if people feel better.

    It is simply another method of helping those who struggle with their mental health. That's it.
    Also feelings and relational dynamics are quite difficult to quantify. I'm not sure how an analyst would measure incidences of transference and counter transference for example.


  • #20
    beach_walker
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    Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »
    Does the supposed assumption that the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis hold any water.

    A half cup full, aye.


  • #21
    XR3i
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    It is simply another method of helping those who struggle with their mental health. That's it.
    Also feelings and relational dynamics are quite difficult to quantify. I'm not sure how an analyst would measure incidences of transference and counter transference for example.

    exactly,

    it's like a letter with the wrong address on it,

    where should it go?


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  • #22
    [Deleted User]
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    XR3i wrote: »
    exactly,

    it's like a letter with the wrong address on it,

    where should it go?

    Where would you like it to go?


    :p


  • #23
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Let's face it, if one looks at the actual hard science, psychoanalysis is mostly snake oil and quackery and continues to be so down to today. As a set of philosophical musings it has some merit from Freud through Jung, but in practical terms? Eh… mostly no. Placebo is strooooong. Which is cool too, if people feel better.

    If a placebo works then great!

    We seem to have developed a huge snobbery around forms of therapy, if it works for the client then it's good by me!


  • #24
    XR3i
    Site Banned Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭XR3i


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Where would you like it to go?


    :p

    that's a good question

    but if i had to choose i'd send it to ireland, to the west


  • #25
    mzungu
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    Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »
    Does the supposed assumption that the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis hold any water.

    I think the quote appeared on the internet after the Matt Damon line in The Departed. But Freud certainly never said it.


  • #26
    fatknacker
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    It must be bs. There can't be many Irish lads who want to ride / marry their mams, can there?


  • #27
    bobbysands81
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    fatknacker wrote: »
    It must be bs. There can't be many Irish lads who want to ride / marry their mams, can there?

    You haven't seen my Ma!


  • #28
    Permabear
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #29
    uch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭uch


    I've tried to hold water a few times but I think I'm doing something wrong

    22/25



  • #30
    uch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭uch


    Confucius say, man who go to bed with itchy bum, wake in morning with smelly finger

    22/25



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  • #31
    endacl
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    Ronald Wilson Reagan wrote: »
    Does the supposed assumption that the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis hold any water.

    It's not an assumption. It's a line from the movie 'The Departed'. That's all it is.


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