11 police shot, 4 officers dead after coordinated sniper fire at Dallas protest rally

walshyn93 · 08-07-2016 10:16PM

Jayop wrote: »

You keep persecuting one section of the community, locking them up for crazy sentences, giving them criminal records so they have no chance of a job, ensuring that kids grow up with no fathers, then you really shouldn't be surprised that that community has a higher crime rate than white areas. They've been ghettoised for so long and there's a system in place to keep it that way.

Maybe just maybe we should expect black people to have the same self-awareness as white people and hold them to the sae standard. If white people are capable of recognising the effects of their ancestors actions, then surely blacks should be expected to recognise the effects of theirs and their neighbours' actions.

There is a social stigma towards blacks who are respectful of authority. I've seen the term "house n****" being thrown around today towards people paying tribute. Showing respect to a cop is like being gay in a lot of places. Showing respect to minorities on the other hand is lauded as a virtue in white cultures. As a white person you don't lose any street cred being respectful of others.

My name is URL · 08-07-2016 10:18PM

Gatling wrote: »

over kill some would say

Who would say that?

Any reasonable minded person would go with that option if it was viable before sending in more officers after the carnage he had already unleashed.

It's not overkill to use technology in order to protect human lives. I bet some people also said it was 'overkill' when bomb disposal robots started being used to explode suspicious packages. But it's a better idea than sending a couple of lads in with bomb suits.

Christy42 · 08-07-2016 10:20PM

lawlolawl wrote: »

BRISTOL, TENN.—Authorities in Tennessee say a man who opened fire on a highway in Tennessee targeted police officers and others because he was troubled by incidents involving black people and law enforcement officers.

The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation says in a news release that initial conversations with the suspect, identified as Lakeem Keon Scott revealed he was troubled by incidents across the U.S. The TBI says the suspect is black; the shooting victims are all white.

Investigators say Scott killed one person and wounded three others, including a police officer. Scott had two guns early Thursday morning when he shot at a motel in Bristol, Tennessee, and then shot indiscriminately at several passing cars. When he was confronted by police, he fired at the three officers who responded.

The suspect was shot by the officers and is being treated at a hospital. He has not yet been charged.

Hmmmm. All the victims were white and the shooter is black but that won't be racism because of reasons, right?

Are you going to quote someone saying it isn't racism or are you just going to argue against arguments you made up?

These shooters are violent racists who should be locked up. BLM should disown this type of violence in order to try and convince other would be shooters not to do it.

lawlolawl · 08-07-2016 10:20PM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Maybe just maybe we should expect black people to have the same self-awareness as white people and hold them to the sae standard. If white people are capable of recognising the effects of their ancestors actions, then surely blacks should be expected to recognise the effects of theirs and their neighbours' actions.

There is a social stigma towards blacks who are respectful of authority. Showing respect to a cop is like being gay in a lot of places. Showing respect to minorities on the other hand is lauded as a virtue in white cultures. As a white person you don't lose any street cred being respectful of others.

The idea of the "Uncle Tom" still exist, somehow.

Jayop · 08-07-2016 10:20PM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Maybe just maybe we should expect black people to have the same self-awareness as white people and hold them to the sae standard. If white people are capable of recognising the effects of their ancestors actions, then surely blacks should be expected to recognise the effects of theirs and their neighbours' actions.

There is a social stigma towards blacks who are respectful of authority. Showing respect to a cop is like being gay in a lot of places. Showing respect to minorities on the other hand is lauded as a virtue in white cultures. As a white person you don't lose any street cred being respectful of others.

Christ that first paragraph beggers belief.

1) White people still have the whole system stacked against the blacks so the self awareness they have collectively is one of still being dominant over the other.
2) See 1.

Jayop · 08-07-2016 10:21PM

lawlolawl wrote: »

The idea of the "Uncle Tom" still exist, somehow.

Yeah you'd wonder how people would be suspicious of those who assist those who still persecute them. somehow./

lawlolawl · 08-07-2016 10:22PM

Jayop wrote: »

1) White people still have the whole system stacked against the blacks

The President of the most powerful country on the planet is a black guy.

Way to stack the deck, evil white overlords.

Jayop · 08-07-2016 10:23PM

lawlolawl wrote: »

The President of the most powerful country on the planet is a black guy.

Way to stack the deck, evil white overlords.

Oh wow, one person. Right on man.

I'll leave this thread now because with selective replies like that I'll end up saying something to get myself banned.

I was right in what I said this morning about posters in this thread.

KingBrian2 · 08-07-2016 10:25PM

A nation that goes around provoking wars around the globe brings wars back to the streets of their cities.

Gatling · 08-07-2016 10:25PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Who would say that?

Any reasonable minded person would go with that option if it was viable before sending in more officers after the carnage he had already unleashed.

Nothing a few flash bangs and some cs couldn't have fixed and seen a man arrested and tried in front of a judge and jury .
Rather than at the hands of a cop which lead to this situation and future situations

lawlolawl · 08-07-2016 10:26PM

Jayop wrote: »

Oh wow, one person. Right on man.

Arguably the most powerful/influential person on the planet but i guess he doesn't matter that much according to you when it doesn't fit your argument.

If he was an old white man like usual you'd be claiming institutionalized racism for his mere existence.

Muppet Man · 08-07-2016 10:27PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Who would say that?

Any reasonable minded person would go with that option if it was viable before sending in more officers after the carnage he had already unleashed.

It's not overkill to use technology in order to protect human lives. I bet some people also said it was 'overkill' when bomb disposal robots started being used to explode suspicious packages. But it's a better idea than sending a couple of lads in with bomb suits.

If I'm not mistaken it was a niche gaming reference, not to be taken literally.

lawlolawl · 08-07-2016 10:28PM

Gatling wrote: »

Nothing a few flash bangs and some cs couldn't have fixed....

Pro CounterStrike player in the house to tell the law enforcement professionals what they should have done

Jayop · 08-07-2016 10:28PM

lawlolawl wrote: »

Arguably the most powerful/influential person on the planet but i guess he doesn't matter that much according to you when it doesn't fit your argument.

If he was an old white man like usual you'd be claiming institutionalized racism for his mere existence.

There's no argument with you. You make a series of incoherent statement and refuse to acknowledge posts that counter them other than a bit of random whataboutery.

You've killed enough of my brain cells.

ceadaoin. · 08-07-2016 10:29PM

Jayop wrote: »

Nice way to get around the bit about not setting the military against it's own people is by militarizing the police.

Fecking exploding robots.

It wasn't an exploding robot it was an exploding cell phone apparently. The shooter requested a phone and they used the robot to bring it to him. Then they detonated it. Not sure why didn't use tear gas or something and then arrest him? I don't know if they made the bomb there and then or just had an explosive cell phone lying around just in case. It's all very strange

My name is URL · 08-07-2016 10:29PM

Muppet Man wrote: »

If I'm not mistaken it was a niche gaming reference, not to be taken literally.

Sometimes it's hard to tell

Poe's Law is very real on AH!

SEPT 23 1989 · 08-07-2016 10:30PM

Jayop wrote: »

None were treated the same as the black community historically so there's no comparison, but I think you'll find the latino community share a lot of the same issues.

edit: and well done for addressing none of my points and just using whataboutery! Bravo sir.

The Asians didn't exactly have the red carpet rolled out for them when they arrived they seemed to have done alright for themselves

Lyaiera · 08-07-2016 10:35PM

NYPD officers explaining that they're told to target vulnerable communities because they're easy arrests and they up their numbers. This of course results in resentment from those communities which exacerbates the situation.

https://twitter.com/Urban_Supremacy/status/751146746441371648

Edit: And if you think the effects of bad policing is only being fought by minorities within policing, google LEAP, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition who have been fighting federal policy on drugs as a failed doctrine that criminilises people for no reason.

walshyn93 · 08-07-2016 10:37PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

NYPD officers explaining that they're told to target vulnerable communities because they're easy arrests and they up their numbers. This of course results in resentment from those communities which exacerbates the situation.

https://twitter.com/Urban_Supremacy/status/751146746441371648

Where is the balance on that panel? Are we going to get the other side?

Little CuChulainn · 08-07-2016 10:38PM

Jayop wrote: »

What does this even mean in relation to what I said?

I thought that was obvious. It's pretty retarded to blame todays cops for the actions of others over the past 200 years so I can only assume you are implying that there are some very old cops on the force that should be blamed for their actions over the last few hundred years.

Lyaiera · 08-07-2016 10:40PM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Where is the balance on that panel? Are we going to get the other side?

Should climate change conferences indulge anti-climate change loons? Should schools teach creationism in science for balance?

The idea of "balance" is ridiculous.

lawlolawl · 08-07-2016 10:41PM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Where is the balance on that panel? Are we going to get the other side?

What do you think?

The first black president of the USA came out and said that the police are racist. Balance doesn't exist any more.

Facts don't mean anything. It's all about optics now.

lawlolawl · 08-07-2016 10:42PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

The idea of "balance" is ridiculous.

^

Liberals.txt

walshyn93 · 08-07-2016 10:43PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

Should climate change conferences indulge anti-climate change loons? Should schools teach creationism in science for balance?

The idea of "balance" is ridiculous.

Only ridiculous to someone who is incapable of rational debate.

But this isn't a racism conference it's a mainstream media outlet indulging one political agenda at the expense of another and possibly at the expense of the truth.

walshyn93 · 08-07-2016 10:47PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

NYPD officers explaining that they're told to target vulnerable communities because they're easy arrests and they up their numbers. This of course results in resentment from those communities which exacerbates the situation.

It's probably a good thing they have quotas like this because it incentivises police to do the hard work of patrolling where the crimes are actually happening rather than just patrolling nice neighbourhoods where nothing happens. It must be a good thing because crime in NYC plummeted under Rudy Guliani who started this policy. The man saved NYC from being a total kip.

BorneTobyWilde · 08-07-2016 10:48PM

Sending in Robocop to kill him was extreme . They was no willingness to take him alive.

walshyn93 · 08-07-2016 10:52PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Sending in Robocop to kill him was extreme . They was no willingness to take him alive.

It's an ignoble way to die. He won't be able to spout his dangerous nonsense nor will he have an honourable death people can remember and glorify. Killed by a machine.

Gatling · 08-07-2016 10:52PM

lawlolawl wrote: »

Pro CounterStrike player in the house to tell the law enforcement professionals what they should have done

Just common sense

Trial by jury the corner stone of democracy

beach_walker · 08-07-2016 10:52PM

So after encouraging the killing of cops, near venerating cop killers and stirring up racial hatred/animosity towards cops even in places where it doesn't exist, will Black Lives Matter accept any degree of blame for this? Nah, thought not.

beach_walker · 08-07-2016 10:54PM

lawlolawl wrote: »

Pro CounterStrike player in the house to tell the law enforcement professionals what they should have done

Amazed at all the EOD experts on Twitter to boot.

11 police shot, 4 officers dead after coordinated sniper fire at Dallas protest rally

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