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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    To be honest it sounds like hell. I wouldn't even stay in a hostel for a night never mind spend a summer in Germany in a tent.

    Well everyone has different tastes. The longest Ive camped for was electric picnic lol..I didnt mind it really but I hated the cold. The no showers , the crowds and loud music were bearable for 3 nights. But you wouldnt have any of that in Germany and it'd be warm so I think Id enjoy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    To be honest it sounds like hell. I wouldn't even stay in a hostel for a night never mind spend a summer in Germany in a tent.

    I know, those campsites are awful, they don't even provide a mother to wash your drawers:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


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    Camping is fine - although with 18 year olds, better to do it as part of a group with some the kids experienced campers or Scouts/Guides/whatever they call themselves these days.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Well everyone has different tastes. The longest Ive camped for was electric picnic lol..I didnt mind it really but I hated the cold. The no showers , the crowds and loud music were bearable for 3 nights. But you wouldnt have any of that in Germany and it'd be warm so I think Id enjoy it.

    I'm guessing some people may associate the very idea of living in a tent with the refugee crisis and the reality of desperate and unfortunate people. Whereas some of those european campsites are clean and have most of the necessary luxuries, but people simply wouldn't countenance the notion of it.

    You only have to look at places like London to see what some people will do to make ends meet, though, whether it's living in a hostel or a camper van or just a humble lil ole tent because they might be illegal, working temporary or seasonal jobs, commuting from another part of the UK or just simply desperate enough to save the money.

    Think of all those homeless "techies" living the dream in a tent in Silicon Valley, convinced their start up's going to hit the jackpot in the morning and they'll be the next Steve Jobs. It's amazing what people will still be prepared to do, even "in this day and age."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    During my j1 I worked in a surf camp in San Diego. I am the least likely person ever to camp, and it's been the only time in my life that I've slept in a tent but I absolutely loved every single minute of it. I'd 100% do it again. Laundrette on site, the showers were plentiful and clean though I'd still keep my flip flops on


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wasn't saying anyone should do it, my husbands three nieces work at the Glastonbury festival and they camped the vast majority of the staff do.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People on Boards can't stop going on about whats wrong with young people today, we weren't like that.

    Thats exactly what your parent's generation said about you.

    How is a complaint about young people? young people are only a product of the society they live in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,733 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    To be honest it sounds like hell. I wouldn't even stay in a hostel for a night never mind spend a summer in Germany in a tent.

    You're gas Nox!! You work on your parents farm, possibly the hardest, muckiest, labour intensive, engineering, dangerous, livestock involved work anyone could do.

    But a hostel sounds like hell! Hostels are great craic and I'm older than you!


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  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    You're gas Nox!! You work on your parents farm, possibly the hardest, muckiest, labour intensive, engineering, dangerous, livestock involved work anyone could do.

    But a hostel sounds like hell! Hostels are great craic and I'm older than you!

    Stayed in one once or twice awful places. I like my comforts and am used to staying in proper hotels. I'd rather spend the money to stay in a nice place.

    Being out working in muck etc is fine, come in and get washed and into a nice clean house after it big difference to staying in a tent or crappy hostel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Moving to London is no joke and you need a few grand to get set up in the first place. Unless you're staying with relatives it simply isn't a viable option. You need a first month's rent and deposit for a room which is around 1200 buck minimum, then you'll also need references and often an employer statement and chances are a landlord won't want some young lad over for the summer and neither will the tenants who already occupy the house. Competition is fierce for any sort of housing. The days of 20 young builders from Connemara piled into a house in Kilburn are long gone.

    I came here at 18 and was lucky as I had an aunt to stay with and a week after she moved in with her boyfriend. She wanted to keep the flat so paid a chunk of the of the rent (although a much smaller percentage than she let on the scoundrel) and because it was above an Irish pub we paid no council tax etc and everything was cash in hand. Within a month I had a two bed flat to myself and a 65 hour a week job with a decent hourly rate.

    Getting a summer job over here is a bygone thing and for an 18 year old they'll probably be getting paid shag all and will leave without a shilling after beer and the rest is factored in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,079 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Permabear wrote: »
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    I think the same thing about my kids, except instead of 'trader' I'd prefer musician, or artist, or craftsperson, or educator, or scientist, or engineer, or nurse, or trader, or carpenter, or electrician, or software developer, or writer or internet blogger, or sports somethingorother etc etc etc...


    I hope that my kids will find something in life that they are interested in, find rewarding and can make a decent living from.
    It would not be my first choice for her to be off in Germany in a tent.
    That kind of doesn't actually matter when your kid is 18. Your choices are about how you behave as a parent. Your kids choices are about how they live their own lives.

    I would love if my kids decided to go and take risks and live precariously and see how far they can go at 18 or 19. That is when they learn their potential.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Moving to London is no joke and you need a few grand to get set up in the first place. Unless you're staying with relatives it simply isn't a viable option. You need a first month's rent and deposit for a room which is around 1200 buck minimum, then you'll also need references and often an employer statement and chances are a landlord won't want some young lad over for the summer and neither will the tenants who already occupy the house. Competition is fierce for any sort of housing. The days of 20 young builders from Connemara piled into a house in Kilburn are long gone.

    I came here at 18 and was lucky as I had an aunt to stay with and a week after she moved in with her boyfriend. She wanted to keep the flat so paid a chunk of the of the rent (although a much smaller percentage than she let on the scoundrel) and because it was above an Irish pub we paid no council tax etc and everything was cash in hand. Within a month I had a two bed flat to myself and a 65 hour a week job with a decent hourly rate.

    Getting a summer job over here is a bygone thing and for an 18 year old they'll probably be getting paid shag all and will leave without a shilling after beer and the rest is factored in.

    That's a pity cos London was a great option back in the day, arrive one day, head down to Clipfine on the junction road and get a decent labouring job the next. That was when the building boom was in, though. I remember recessions too when you'd end up getting a day here and there for McGinleys or some other bunch of charlatans who worked you like a slave for 22.50 (less 2 quid tax) a day. Cash the cheque in the archway tavern, have a feed and a few pints and wonder how you were going to get to the end of the week with 50 quid in your pocket!

    I think things are definitely tougher for kids leaving school and college now. There are less options for a start. I don't blame anybody for clinging to home comforts for as long as possible, it's the human instinct for preservation in operation s'all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My faith in young people is restored my nephew is working for a landscape contractor for the summer hard psychical work, the first day of work he came home sat down and fell asleep!!

    It is harder in some ways for younger people today, but not even wanting or willing to explore any alternatives is possible not good.


  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The willingness to work - at anything - is worth more than the education in the World.


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Akrasia wrote: »

    I would love if my kids decided to go and take risks and live precariously and see how far they can go at 18 or 19. That is when they learn their potential.

    I have to say that's a strange thing to want. I would not want any child of mine to take unnecessary risks or live in any way precariously and I imagine the vast majority would agree with me nor would I have wanted to live precariously when I was that age.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have to say that's a strange thing to want. I would not want any child of mine to take unnecessary risks or live in any way precariously and I imagine the vast majority would agree with me nor would I have wanted to live precariously when I was that age.

    But do you not see the concoctions between wiling to try, taking a risk and personal growth and development and possibility even mental health.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Maireadio


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Aaahhh, so idealistic. I'm guessing she's not yet a wilful teenager.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Maireadio wrote: »
    Aaahhh, so idealistic. I'm guessing she's not yet a wilful teenager.

    Personally I dont see that there's anything wrong with working on a fruit stall. It's a good way of meeting people and being out in the fresh air.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Maireadio


    Personally I dont see that there's anything wrong with working on a fruit stall. It's a good way of meeting people and being out in the fresh air.

    Indeed. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Permabear wrote: »
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    They're not core life skills. I can imagine your kids faces when you whip out the trading manual on a Friday!


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mariaalice wrote: »
    But do you not see the concoctions between wiling to try, taking a risk and personal growth and development and possibility even mental health.

    I see that I was given the opportunity and encourages to do well without having to want for anything and it's worked out pretty well so far without any risk taking etc and living a comfortable and enjoyable live both and home and after moving out.

    During the summer ehen I was 18, 19, 20 etc I was working with a local builder making good money which enabled me have a very enjoyable time in college while those who went off galavanting for the summer or moved out of home hardly had the price of few pints in the pub and eating beans on toast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Maireadio


    Permabear wrote: »
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    And all the people who don't have trading skills and don't screw up their lives financially?

    It's a perfectly good goal to have for your kid but don't be disappointed if she has little interest in learning about it! She might come back into the fold later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Ah, the joys and travails of Parenthood!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Maireadio


    Permabear wrote: »
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    I was talking more about hitting the teens. A lot of kids are interested in various things.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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