Work for the summer

29-06-2016 11:30AM

beach_walker wrote: »

They wouldn't survive. Was shocked recently to learn that two of my cousins (early twenties, in decent graduate jobs) livin' in the Big Shmoke don't do any washing. They take it in turns to do a run home every weekend to get the clothes cleaned and ironed. I said surely not stuff like towels etc. but was told (by their Mam) that they simply don't know how to operate the machine or what to do. They need a kick up the hole tbh.

They can't cook either and get food sent up to them.

Nothing wrong with it really :pac:, sure I'm in my early 30's and Id say 80% of my washing is done up home. Only if there is some rare reason I have to go more than two weekends without going home I do it where I rent

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Akrasia wrote: »

This starts in college. Mammies telling their kids to come home every week, getting all their clothes cleaned and a bag full of food for the next week

When I went to college, I only came home once a month and that was just to be polite

Kids should be proud to grow up and parents should realise that their role is to prepare their kids for independent life.

I lived at home for college so can't comment on that but since I had to move away for work (at 24ish) I'm home every weekend or every second weekend usually now. I'd hate to be only home once a month, sad really not wanting to be around home and seeing your parents regularly. I'd would without doubt be still living at home if work was commutable from there.

Jawgap · 29-06-2016 11:33AM

mariaalice wrote: »

We are old fogies though:p

Nah, just his idea of being independent is using my Hailo account to get a taxi home!!

Winterlong · 29-06-2016 11:35AM

Jawgap wrote: »

Nah, just his idea of being independent is using my Daddies Hailo account to get a taxi home!!

FYP

beach_walker · 29-06-2016 11:36AM

Keaton Deafening Test wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it really :pac:, sure I'm in my early 30's and Id say 80% of my washing is done up home. Only if there is some rare reason I have to go more than two weekends without going home I do it where I rent .

Well I suppose the part that shocked me most was that they can't (well have never) washed clothes. Ironing too. And I heard of one incident where the parents drove up to Dublin to collect the washing, and returned a few days later with it all done. Now that's service :pac:

I think it's a bit odd for an adult to not be able to do these basic things in life. I mean household chores and cooking are something that everyone should have a grasp on!

29-06-2016 11:39AM

beach_walker wrote: »

Well I suppose the part that shocked me most was that they can't (well have never) washed clothes. Ironing too. And I heard of one incident where the parents drove up to Dublin to collect the washing, and returned a few days later with it all done. Now that's service :pac:

I think it's a bit odd for an adult to not be able to do these basic things in life. I mean household chores and cooking are something that everyone should have a grasp on!

Well they do sound like they can do very little, I can cook no problem and use a washing machine easily. Just handier to bring stuff home a lot of the time for me as for one washing is a weekend job and if I'm home it has to come with me and secondly we have far better washing and drying facilities at home than where I rent.

The Backwards Man · 29-06-2016 11:48AM

At least the ones that can't iron or cook or wash clothes or whatever have the excuse that they are useless.

The ones that won't have no excuse.

HensVassal · 29-06-2016 11:51AM

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Thalkirchen camp site was the place to go in Munich if you wanted cheap accomodation. And in fact if you wanted even cheaper (ie free) you just went to the haupbanhof, plonked your sleeping bag down on the ground and slept. Station was lovely and warm, the only downside being the local polizei who came and rousted you out at 6 in the mornings!

Could you sleep with lights on and train noise. Don't think I could.

Akrasia · 29-06-2016 11:52AM

Keaton Deafening Test wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it really :pac:, sure I'm in my early 30's and Id say 80% of my washing is done up home. Only if there is some rare reason I have to go more than two weekends without going home I do it where I rent .

I lived at home for college so can't comment on that but since I had to move away for work (at 24ish) I'm home every weekend or every second weekend usually now. I'd hate to be only home once a month, sad really not wanting to be around home and seeing your parents regularly. I'd would without doubt be still living at home if work was commutable from there.

It wasn't about not wanting to be at home. I now live only a mile and a half from my mother and see her regularly (she has health problems) My wife is near her family too, that is important to us.

But it's about growing up and maturing as an independent adult.

When i was in College, I specifically chose one that was far enough away that I wouldn't be expected to come home every weekend. I wanted to find my own way.

A truly close family doesn't need to see each other every day or every week to maintain the relationship, and I think it's important for parents to mature beyond their role as parents as their kids leave the nest. If their health allows it, parents should be pursuing their own interests, their own friends and social life that they may have had to delay when they were prioritising their children

(in my opinion)

29-06-2016 12:05PM

I found the answer to this after a bit of internet research, here goes.

It to do with smaller family sizes, family's of 5,6 or 7 were common, now family's of 2 are common meaning family resources only have to be divide between 2 instead of say 7, plus in the 1970s and 1980s there was college fess.

Joe_ Public · 29-06-2016 12:08PM

HensVassal wrote: »

Could you sleep with lights on and train noise. Don't think I could.

Well I wouldnt do it now, but when you are 18/19 it's just an adventure. Trains didnt' run through the night, not then anyway...from around midnight to six (man!) it was generally quiet. Plus, I was working 2 jobs....coulda slept through an earthquake!!

HensVassal · 29-06-2016 12:13PM

beach_walker wrote: »

Well I suppose the part that shocked me most was that they can't (well have never) washed clothes. Ironing too. And I heard of one incident where the parents drove up to Dublin to collect the washing, and returned a few days later with it all done. Now that's service :pac:

I think it's a bit odd for an adult to not be able to do these basic things in life. I mean household chores and cooking are something that everyone should have a grasp on!

I honestly do not understand anyone who "can't cook".

Who the fuck can't crack open a tin of soup and heat it in a saucepan?
Or read the instructions on a McColgans beef pie and heat it up in the oven....bonus points if you can screw the top off the milk carton and A+ if you can pour it into a glass to accompany your soup or beef pie.

Hands up here anybody who has been asked by their mother to check the spuds that were boiling in a pot, i.e. prod them with a fork to see if they "give" ?

Any curious child who has been asked to perform this simple task while their mother was occupied doing something else like washing some plates or whipping some cream to go with the apple tart would automatically deduce that spuds go in water in pot, heat is applied and water boils, spuds are ready to eat when they are soft enough for a fork to pierce them without much effort...QED.

Can't cook, my bollocks.

Pac1Man · 29-06-2016 12:58PM

I left home when I was 6 and have worked and supported myself from then until now. It's tough for a 6 year old to get ahead in life but I scrapped my way through.This has made emotionally fulfilled and an overall more rounded person.

I truly am fantastic because of this and I am a better and more successful person than a lot of others for these same reasons.

I know this may not be directly related to the topic but I feel it's important to highlight once again how much more advanced I am than most people. This all stems from facing the mature and harsh world as a 6 year old.

To further drive home this point, I will refer to the parents of those still getting help as Mammy and Daddy. I feel this hint of condescension not only makes me feel better about myself, but also propels me to the front of the moral queue.

Shaque attack · 29-06-2016 01:13PM

Pac1Man wrote: »

I left home when I was 6 and have worked and supported myself from then until now. It's tough for a 6 year old to get ahead in life but I scrapped my way through.This has made emotionally fulfilled and an overall more rounded person.

I truly am fantastic because of this and I am a better and more successful person than a lot of others for these same reasons.

I know this may not be directly related to the topic but I feel it's important to highlight once again how much more advanced I am than most people. This all stems from facing the mature and harsh world as a 6 year old.

To further drive home this point, I will refer to the parents of those still getting help as Mammy and Daddy. I feel this hint of condescension not only makes me feel better about myself, but also propels me to the front of the moral queue.

Haha, best response to this type of thread I've read in a long time.

Mainly because I left home and manned up at 4, brought my 2 year old brother with me and he was good to go out on his own by 3. Snowflakes the lot of ye.

riclad · 29-06-2016 01:33PM

I was in a family of 7 children,
i was fed ,clothed .
i certainly was not spoilt .
People with 1 or 2 children pay them more attention,
i think teens now have pc,s laptops, smartphones , game console,s .
I know a single mother, her only daughter has a laptop, iphone 5, cable tv .
I was left to read, listen to the radio study .
We had rte1,2, 2 tv channels ,no cable tv.
i hear on podcasts of people giving 6 year olds ipads to play on.
This generation is the connected generation,
the first generation to grow up with social media and smartphones and selfies .
So of course its different,
every minor event goes up on facebook,
so of course they are different from someone born in the 80s.
I read an article about a teen in the usa,
she uploads at least 10 photos, every day to social media .
She go,s everywhere with her iphone.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 29-06-2016 01:50PM

I came from a family of 2 kids. We were both spoilt brats. I probably still am to an extent. Although it came from a really good place with my parents, we wanted for nothing, it did us no favours. And being struck down with princess syndrome when things don't go my way at 27, is not something I'd want for my daughter.

HensVassal · 29-06-2016 02:18PM

Pac1Man wrote: »

I left home when I was 6 and have worked and supported myself from then until now. It's tough for a 6 year old to get ahead in life but I scrapped my way through.This has made emotionally fulfilled and an overall more rounded person.

I truly am fantastic because of this and I am a better and more successful person than a lot of others for these same reasons.

I know this may not be directly related to the topic but I feel it's important to highlight once again how much more advanced I am than most people. This all stems from facing the mature and harsh world as a 6 year old.

To further drive home this point, I will refer to the parents of those still getting help as Mammy and Daddy. I feel this hint of condescension not only makes me feel better about myself, but also propels me to the front of the moral queue.

6???? You pampered, soft bastard.

Have you ever had to change the tyre on your own pram on the way to work like I have?

This is no easy feat when you haven't learn to walk yet

Sapphire · 29-06-2016 02:20PM

Shaque attack wrote: »

Haha, best response to this type of thread I've read in a long time.

Mainly because I left home and manned up at 4, brought my 2 year old brother with me and he was good to go out on his own by 3. Snowflakes the lot of ye.

Pfft, my preschooler is already a foreman down the mines.

29-06-2016 02:55PM

Akrasia wrote: »

When i was in College, I specifically chose one that was far enough away that I wouldn't be expected to come home every weekend. I wanted to find my own way.

Very different outlook I suppose, there was never any question about moving away for university for me. I only applied to two (one IT one university) and both are close to home as I had no intention of moving out for university. It helped of course that they were very good places to attend regardless offering the courses I wanted etc.

The majority of my friends did the same and it meant my school friends all stayed together as a group and even now in our 30's we are as close as ever.

John_Rambo · 29-06-2016 05:55PM

riclad wrote: »

I was in a family of 7 children,
i was fed ,clothed .
i certainly was not spoilt .
People with 1 or 2 children pay them more attention,
i think teens now have pc,s laptops, smartphones , game console,s .
I know a single mother, her only daughter has a laptop, iphone 5, cable tv .
I was left to read, listen to the radio study .
We had rte1,2, 2 tv channels ,no cable tv.
i hear on podcasts of people giving 6 year olds ipads to play on.
This generation is the connected generation,
the first generation to grow up with social media and smartphones and selfies .
So of course its different,
every minor event goes up on facebook,
so of course they are different from someone born in the 80s.
I read an article about a teen in the usa,
she uploads at least 10 photos, every day to social media .
She go,s everywhere with her iphone.

I'm not so sure you're wonderfully connected because I don't know what point you're trying to make here?

Is it just bltching and "the new generation" crap? There's always a you, when TV came out there was a you giving out about the new generation and telling everyone how wonderful you were when you were a kid and how connected you are. When radio came out there was a you, moaning again. Even when books came out there were people that didn't agree with kids reading.

beach_walker wrote: »

Well I suppose the part that shocked me most was that they can't (well have never) washed clothes. Ironing too. And I heard of one incident where the parents drove up to Dublin to collect the washing, and returned a few days later with it all done. Now that's service

I think it's a bit odd for an adult to not be able to do these basic things in life. I mean household chores and cooking are something that everyone should have a grasp on!

It continues, on through the twenties and the thirties and even the forties. In their thirties they'll build they're own house on they're "own land" (dad's land). In their forties they'll have the parents "mind" (rear) the grandkids.

Then they're food tapping for the rest.

Conall Cernach · 29-06-2016 06:19PM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

London is bloody expensive. Most 18 year olds I've met wouldn't survive it.

If they can fund it and won't need to fall back on Mammy and Daddy for a bailout, then more power to them.

Yes, perhaps in this case the 18 year old is thinking that they can just rock up to London and automatically find a place to live and work. Mammy and Daddy might just be balking at having to finance their 18 year old's flat deposit and general expenses until a pay cheque arrives, if it ever does. Or maybe they suspect their 18 year old is a moron.

I went to London when I was 19 back in the early 90s with money loaned to me by my brother. I stayed with relatives but after being unsuccessful at finding work that would also cover rent etc. I returned home after a month rather than rack up more debt and be a burden to my aunt and uncle. I did get propositioned to "act" in some gay porn though so at least I have a story to tell from it. I didn't do it by the way.

wakka12 · 29-06-2016 06:34PM

beach_walker wrote: »

They wouldn't survive. Was shocked recently to learn that two of my cousins (early twenties, in decent graduate jobs) livin' in the Big Shmoke don't do any washing. They take it in turns to do a run home every weekend to get the clothes cleaned and ironed. I said surely not stuff like towels etc. but was told (by their Mam) that they simply don't know how to operate the machine or what to do. They need a kick up the hole tbh.

They can't cook either and get food sent up to them.

Pathetic excuse, anyone can follow simply recipes with cheap ingredients. Yes many young people don't know how to cook but its easy enoughto pick up, these two are just plain lazy

FizzleSticks · 29-06-2016 06:38PM

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JuliusCaesar · 29-06-2016 07:22PM

Keaton Deafening Test wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it really :pac:, sure I'm in my early 30's ......... I'd would without doubt be still living at home if work was commutable from there.

AAAAAARGH said every reasonable parent ever! :eek::eek::eek:

JuliusCaesar · 29-06-2016 07:24PM

Keaton Deafening Test wrote: »

Well they do sound like they can do very little, I can cook no problem and use a washing machine easily. Just handier to bring stuff home a lot of the time for me as for one washing is a weekend job and if I'm home it has to come with me and secondly we have far better washing and drying facilities at home than where I rent.

Are laundrettes a thing of the past? Serious question.

Electric Sheep · 29-06-2016 08:25PM

Akrasia wrote: »

This starts in college. Mammies telling their kids to come home every week, getting all their clothes cleaned and a bag full of food for the next week

When I went to college, I only came home once a month and that was just to be polite

Kids should be proud to grow up and parents should realise that their role is to prepare their kids for independent life.

Many years ago when I first went up to Dublin to work, my mother expected me to come home every weekend, and to apply for a transfer to the nearest town to where I lived.

She took great offence at my lack of desire to return to a small extremely boring rural village, or work in a small provincial town. She could not understand why I didn't come running home every weekend on the bus like the others.

God how I hated those once or twice a month weekends at "home".

0byme75341jo28 · 29-06-2016 08:30PM

I've never read such self righteous shíte in my life. Actually believing that going to work in Germany living in a fúcking tent in this day and age is a viable option. Get a grip for god sake.

Nonsense.

Agricola · 29-06-2016 08:40PM

Far from tents I was reared. Cardboard boxes in my day.

wakka12 · 29-06-2016 08:41PM

Carmen Ashy Ranch wrote: »

I've never read such self righteous shíte in my life. Actually believing that going to work in Germany living in a fúcking tent in this day and age is a viable option. Get a grip for god sake.

Nonsense.

Well really it is..'livable' ..Germany is warm in summer. If you have a tent all you need is access to a shower and lots of campsites have shower and wash facilities for campers. Food can easily be cooked with fire or boiling water or bought if you're lazy. If wifi is that necessary it could be found easily, as could charging docks.
If you just let go for a little and don't expect the standards of life you're used to Id say camping abroad could be a very fun summer.

wakka12 · 29-06-2016 09:09PM

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

Are laundrettes a thing of the past? Serious question.

Probably less common as living standards increased..but definitely not gone. I know of at least 3 in Dublin 6 area, lots of people have apartments too small for their own washing machines. People will always be living in small apartments so I don't think laundrettes will ever be a thing of the past

29-06-2016 11:25PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Well really it is..'livable' ..Germany is warm in summer. If you have a tent all you need is access to a shower and lots of campsites have shower and wash facilities for campers. Food can easily be cooked with fire or boiling water or bought if you're lazy. If wifi is that necessary it could be found easily, as could charging docks.
If you just let go for a little and don't expect the standards of life you're used to Id say camping abroad could be a very fun summer.

To be honest it sounds like hell. I wouldn't even stay in a hostel for a night never mind spend a summer in Germany in a tent.

Work for the summer

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