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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • #6662
    OverRide
    Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Liquid contract is only 375l/day, and our surplus bonus runs out in Nov most years, so I'm putting zero effort into liquid moving forward. 25 cows doing 15l/day will cover that liquid quota, it will be hit and miss if I can supply that in late Jan/early Feb but what's the worst that can happen if I end up under it for a week or so ha?
    They'll take the amount you're under off the contract is what will happen
    That size contract is still worth 4000 euros if you sell it which is what you should do if going spring rather than letting glanbia confiscate any gallon of it
    Every gallon they reduce it by is a €50 asset taken off you
    Bear that in mind :)


  • #6663
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,782 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    OverRide wrote: »
    What did you do with your liquid contract?
    I'm counting down the days to giving notice,and moving to Strathroy myself,they are currently looking for Spring suppliers by the way
    There wouldn't be a bob in winter milk,if you want to have any sort of life or pay yourself
    Will Strathroy be able to take many suppliers? Will Glanbia loose many? How many are stuck now with 10 year contracts? Do Lacpatrick collect milk down the country?


  • #6664
    OverRide
    Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Will Strathroy be able to take many suppliers? Will Glanbia loose many? How many are stuck now with 10 year contracts? Do Lacpatrick collect milk down the country?

    Presumably by those with 10 yr contracts,you mean those who took milkflex,a product born when GiiL's contempt for farmers was already obvious ,they wouldn't be moving anyway
    I don't know anything about lacpatrick


  • #6665
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,782 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    OverRide wrote: »
    Presumably by those with 10 yr contracts,you mean those who took milkflex,a product born when GiiL's contempt for farmers was already obvious ,they wouldn't be moving anyway
    I don't know anything about lacpatrick
    Yes just wondering was there much of an uptake by hard pressed farmers. Also is everyone's glanbia connect down all day?


  • #6666
    jaymla627
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,128 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Yes just wondering was there much of an uptake by hard pressed farmers. Also is everyone's glanbia connect down all day?

    900 suppliers attended meetings anyways according to their news settler, staying a million miles away from it myself, glanbia connect us down for us too


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  • #6667
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    OverRide wrote: »
    whelan2 wrote: »
    Will they still be looking for suppliers by the time the msa is up?

    Yes
    Ah you can't be sure of that, the doors were closed for the last 4 months, but taking a few at the moment. They're not a bottomless pit. Their business model doesn't lend itself to loading up to the gills with suppliers and then hoping for the best that they get a market for their milk


  • #6668
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    OverRide wrote: »
    They'll take the amount you're under off the contract is what will happen
    That size contract is still worth 4000 euros if you sell it which is what you should do if going spring rather than letting glanbia confiscate any gallon of it
    Every gallon they reduce it by is a €50 asset taken off you
    Bear that in mind :)

    Thanks, that's very useful info!


  • #6669
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,782 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    Ah you can't be sure of that, the doors were closed for the last 4 months, but taking a few at the moment. They're not a bottomless pit. Their business model doesn't lend itself to loading up to the gills with suppliers and then hoping for the best that they get a market for their milk
    Do linwoods still buy down south?


  • #6670
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Horrible milking this morning. One of the vacuum pumps tripped the main switch 4 times during milking and washing.

    And I can't contact any of the repair lads today as they will all be at the first round of the county championships:(

    There will be some amount of sh!te to be hosed off today and tomorrow.


  • #6671
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,782 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    Horrible milking this morning. One of the vacuum pumps tripped the main switch 4 times during milking and washing.

    And I can't contact any of the repair lads today as they will all be at the first round of the county championships:(

    There will be some amount of sh!te to be hosed off today and tomorrow.
    Locked myself out of house this morning, everyone still in bed, no phone on me. Getting too old for this climbing in window crack.


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  • #6672
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    Horrible milking this morning. One of the vacuum pumps tripped the main switch 4 times during milking and washing.

    And I can't contact any of the repair lads today as they will all be at the first round of the county championships:(

    There will be some amount of sh!te to be hosed off today and tomorrow.

    Would a electrician be any good to you??


  • #6673
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    awaywithyou wrote: »
    Would a electrician be any good to you??
    Don't know:confused:


    One of the pumps seems to be tripping the fuse but there's no obvious reason for it that I can see.

    I'll play on till the morning, it will only add 10 minutes to milking.

    I was out last night at a birthday party and I'm not used to late nights and milking with a bit of beer still in the system so I'm not really thinking straight :(

    Beer, the cause of, and the solution to, all of lifes problems.


  • #6674
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    awaywithyou wrote: »
    Would a electrician be any good to you??

    Check the regulator also, something screwed loose in mine afew weeks back,vacuum kept rising until it stalled the motor and tripped the switch


  • #6675
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Had a full service last week and the regulator was done as well. I'll have a quick look before milking.


  • #6676
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Nothing seemed wrong with the regulator so I went for the cows. Switched on machine, tripped. Switched on.....no trip.

    Great.

    Into pit, acrs not working.

    Service man on his way thankfully.

    So much for an early milking. Bugger.


  • #6677
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    Nothing seemed wrong with the regulator so I went for the cows. Switched on machine, tripped. Switched on.....no trip.

    Great.

    Into pit, acrs not working.

    Service man on his way thankfully.

    So much for an early milking. Bugger.

    if your trip is going intermittently is the MCB a 'C' series (I think)... ie. the motor rated one?

    I know we had one vacuum pump that drove us mental tripping the board intermittently, some mornings it was like trying to start a bad chainsaw getting milking - others it was perfect. There was never anything wrong with the pump or the motor ... we kept upping the current of the MCB, no difference...

    Changed it back lower to 20A (I think) but a C series MCB and it works perfectly, hasn't missed a beat since.

    I daresay most sensible parlours are already fitted with them in the first place but just in case it helps anyone..

    * note I am not an electrician or anything of the sort so obviously get whoever fixes the milking machine to give their opinion and fit it!


  • #6678
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    kowtow wrote: »
    if your trip is going intermittently is the MCB a 'C' series (I think)... ie. the motor rated one?

    I know we had one vacuum pump that drove us mental tripping the board intermittently, some mornings it was like trying to start a bad chainsaw getting milking - others it was perfect. There was never anything wrong with the pump or the motor ... we kept upping the current of the MCB, no difference...

    Changed it back lower to 20A (I think) but a C series MCB and it works perfectly, hasn't missed a beat since.

    I daresay most sensible parlours are already fitted with them in the first place but just in case it helps anyone..

    * note I am not an electrician or anything of the sort so obviously get whoever fixes the milking machine to give their opinion and fit it!
    We sorted out the acrs anyway, a fuse next to the main trip for the machine but neither of us could see it for 10 minutes.

    Hangovers and milking don't mix for me at all:(

    I was trying to ring my sparky and he's abroad so I will have to find another one tomorrow morning.

    I'll have a look at the rating on the tripswitch tomorrow, Kowtow, thanks for that.


  • #6679
    kerry cow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭kerry cow


    Could be the Capacitor been faulty . Let us know how you get on . Also we had a bearing problem and it also kept tripping the motor . It could be a faulty trip also , so many it's a process of a elimination.
    But I would go with capacitor .


  • #6680
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭alps


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    Horrible milking this morning. One of the vacuum pumps tripped the main switch 4 times during milking and washing.

    And I can't contact any of the repair lads today as they will all be at the first round of the county championships:(
    .

    Should use servicemen from Cork....not too busy on the GAA front at this time of the year...


  • #6681
    pedigree 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    kerry cow wrote: »
    Could be the Capacitor been faulty . Let us know how you get on . Also we had a bearing problem and it also kept tripping the motor . It could be a faulty trip also , so many it's a process of a elimination.
    But I would go with capacitor .

    A faulty capacitor usually just stops it starting or makes it slow starting.
    It doesn't usually trip the switch though.
    Could be wrong though never any harm changing and by checking it can see if it is damp around it and dry out then.


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  • #6682
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Put a face tester onto the pump, probably stray electric, wires burned or damaged. Turn on different sections, vacuum, pulsater etc and eliminate bit by bit. Normally find the problem and then some diy (make sure fuses are down)!
    Disclaimer - work should be carried out by a qualified electrician:-)


  • #6683
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    alps wrote: »
    Should use servicemen from Cork....not too busy on the GAA front at this time of the year...
    Talk about splashing petrol all over the gaff and then playing with matches:D


    My serviceman is going to have a look in the morning after milking. The sparky reckons it's a problem with the motor but seeing as he's in Spain, I'll let the serviceman take another look tomorrow.

    Thanks anyway lads and lasssies.:)


  • #6684
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Still no sign of remaining bps..


  • #6685
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,782 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Still no sign of remaining bps..
    It has been showing as paid for the last 10 days, originally as paid on 17th of june and then on 24th of June, whats the problem, do they not have the funds? Hasnt shown in financial self services yet, edited to say its showing as paid on 27th june on financial self services on agfood


  • #6686
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Still no sign of remaining bps..
    That's good news, anyway.

    If we got it, we would only waste it on paying bills and feeding the family:rolleyes:


  • #6687
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    That's good news, anyway.

    If we got it, we would only waste it on paying bills and feeding the family:rolleyes:


    ya get vacuum pump/regulator/trip switch sorted??


  • #6688
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    awaywithyou wrote: »
    ya get vacuum pump/regulator/trip switch sorted??
    No:(


    Sparky is abroad atm and Joe can't be reached.

    It only tripped once during the wash this morning but I'm leaning towards the pump needing a new motor.


  • #6689
    pedigree 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    No:(


    Sparky is abroad atm and Joe can't be reached.

    It only tripped once during the wash this morning but I'm leaning towards the pump needing a new motor.
    I'd go with Kerry cow said and change the capacitor first before changing the motor.
    A faulty capacitor can cause the motor to be a bit sluggish as well. It'll only cost a few Euro and no point getting a new motor if you don't have to.
    The capacitor is a cylinder and the electric wire goes to that first before going to the motor. Turn off the power at the trip switch box and take off the wires off the capacitor and bring it to an electrical supply shop to get the same rated one.
    If you were up here I could tell you of a few places to get one. Not sure of Kerry though.
    Edit: Write down the make,hp,volts and amps of the motor and the guy in shop should be able to tell you if the right capacitor is in the motor as well. Stranger things have happened.


  • #6690
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    It seems to last an hour before tripping out so I can get milked, just.

    I'll try the service man again tomorrow morning.

    I hate messing with electricity and wiring, that magic stuff should only be looked at by magicians service men:o


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  • #6691
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,782 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    It seems to last an hour before tripping out so I can get milked, just.

    I'll try the service man again tomorrow morning.

    I hate messing with electricity and wiring, that magic stuff should only be looked at by magicians service men:o
    Milk quicker so :)


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