Dublin Bus New Airlink 757

devnull · 16-06-2016 12:33PM

Carawaystick wrote: »

Are the busses to the long term carparks licensed? Could the nta push back on DAA re pso busses that way?

It's a tender that goes out every number of years, the last time being last year when Aircoach won it for another five years using the same vehicles as before but upgrading them.

Jamie2k9 · 21-06-2016 02:36PM

26 June - Start Date

Carawaystick · 21-06-2016 02:43PM

devnull wrote: »

It's a tender that goes out every number of years, the last time being last year when Aircoach won it for another five years using the same vehicles as before but upgrading them.

I appreciate DAA tender the shuttle busses. I'm asking if they need to be licensed by the nta, like sat a BÉ bus to Galway has to have a license from the nta.

ted1 · 21-06-2016 04:20PM

dfx- wrote: »

the reason why tourist people get the 16 is the cost not the route. Keep the same price, they'll keep using the 16.

The 16 is painfully slow to the airport.

mickmmc · 21-06-2016 04:26PM

Currently, a number of passengers are walking past the 747 and Aircoach termini to avail of the budget fares charged by the 16 and 41 PSO routes located behind the terminal 1 short term car park. There is a market for budget fares to the City Centre and beyond.

IMO the 16 and 41 frequency should be expanded rather than launching another premium service. There is no guarantee that the 757 service will be a success.

GOBUS and Citylink have bus stops close to PSO 16 and 41 areas and not in the Coachpark; they must be paying a premium for those stops.

LXFlyer · 21-06-2016 04:39PM

mickmmc wrote: »

Currently, a number of passengers are walking past the 747 and Aircoach termini to avail of the budget fares charged by the 16 and 41 PSO routes located behind the terminal 1 short term car park. There is a market for budget fares to the City Centre and beyond.

IMO the 16 and 41 frequency should be expanded rather than launching another premium service. There is no guarantee that the 757 service will be a success.

GOBUS and Citylink have bus stops close to PSO 16 and 41 areas and not in the Coachpark; they must be paying a premium for those stops.

There is quite clearly a market for both commercial and PSO services to and from the airport - but given that airport bound 16s currently have no competition until Westmoreland St, and are often quite full already, it's perfectly possible that some passengers travelling from the Kelly's Corner/Portobello area may favour the new 757 over the 16 as it will be empty and have plenty of luggage space available.

As I already posted, the 747 isn't exactly empty right now either.

We will have to wait and see. It's impossible to say with any degree of certainty that no one will switch.

tomfoolery60 · 21-06-2016 05:54PM

I wonder in the route from Portobello will be less painfully slow than the route from Heuston on the 747 - here's hoping!

devnull · 21-06-2016 06:04PM

Carawaystick wrote: »

I appreciate DAA tender the shuttle busses. I'm asking if they need to be licensed by the nta, like sat a BÉ bus to Galway has to have a license from the nta.

It's a private hire to the DAA, so needs no license.

J.pilkington · 21-06-2016 06:08PM

lxflyer wrote: »

As I already posted, the 747 isn't exactly empty right now either.

But it's also not exactly under pressure. It passes me on my way to and from work each day and the vast majority of the time there is always loads of seats / luggage space

LXFlyer · 21-06-2016 06:21PM

J.pilkington wrote: »

But it's also not exactly under pressure. It passes me on my way to and from work each day and the vast majority of the time there is always loads of seats / luggage space

And where is that?

I (and colleagues) have regularly seen people being left behind on the Quays east of Busaras.

Stevek101 · 21-06-2016 06:36PM

The routing is now available on the journey planner.

LXFlyer · 21-06-2016 06:57PM

Well again I don't think it'll be going down Fenian St and Erne St given the low bridges.

Northbound I'd expect it to go via Westland Row, Pearse St, Mark St, Townsend St, Sandwith St, Pearse St and then Macken St.

alane20 · 21-06-2016 07:16PM

I drive the 16/41 and also the 747, the quickest route to the airport is actually the 41, many times id meet a colleague on the 747 on gardiner st, by the time he does bus aras and the quays as a 747 I meet him in the airport, having worked the 41, the biggest problem with the 16 is boumount, turning right after the vicount pub is a disaster, at peak times it can take 20 mins for what is basically a series of 3 right hand turns, for an area that is well served by other buses 14/104, the number 1 comes out of shanard road and could easily be routed through boumount and free up room & running time on the 16, the 757 starts on Sunday and route training is available from Thursday for drivers

MrMorooka · 23-06-2016 10:11AM

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-bus-route-to-airport-2840756-Jun2016/

LXFlyer · 23-06-2016 11:15AM

The timetable is live now:
http://www.dublinbus.ie/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/747111/

thomasj · 23-06-2016 12:11PM

Good to see this area (south docks/gcd) finally getting an airport service. Alot of international companies such as Google and Accenture based here. It makes sense.

Furthermore GCD will soon be a terminus for maynooth, Drogheda Kildare and you have DART services stopping there as well. This could become a major connection point.

LXFlyer · 23-06-2016 12:17PM

There is already an hourly Aircoach but this more frequent service will definitely improve the situation.

devnull · 23-06-2016 07:57PM

The Aircoach services is very unreliable because it does not have enough running time.

Vic_08 · 23-06-2016 09:23PM

devnull wrote: »

The Aircoach services is very unreliable because it does not have enough running time.

It is unreliable because it has to deal with 2 big traffic blackspots; Beckett Bridge area and Bray.

It can't recover because of too little running time.

I was somewhat surprised they chose the Bray/Greystones service to divert away from East link as it is the longer route and the Dalkey route sits at Killiney Castle for nearly an hour so lots of recovery time in the more crucial direction for timekeeping.

This DB route will suffer some significant delays in that area as well and I hope they are giving it plenty of recovery time too.

Van.Bosch · 24-06-2016 11:47AM

So how does it get from Westland row to Cardiff lane? I can't make it out at all

LXFlyer · 24-06-2016 01:37PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

So how does it get from Westland row to Cardiff lane? I can't make it out at all

Left onto Pearse St, right onto Mark St, right onto Townsend St, straight on to Sandwith St, left onto Pearse St, and left onto Macken St. is the only possible route.

Van.Bosch · 24-06-2016 04:23PM

Thanks, not too winding I suppose.

Wonder what journey times will be like but I'm sure they've tested it at various points throughout the day

Stevek101 · 24-06-2016 06:16PM

D'Peoples Voice · 26-06-2016 05:02PM

choosing to name a route after the Boeing 757 is mad - I'm not even sure any Irish airline fly them out of Dublin (I know Aer Lingus wet lease two from Shannon)
Boeing have stopped making them the last I heard, along with 747 which many airlines are now retiring ...

They could of gone.. 737 which is the Boeing aeroplane that Ryanair fly, the Boeing 787 though there are none yet at Dublin, or gone 320 which is the Airbus aeroplane of choice at Aer Lingus(and the world over) as is the 330.

Jamie2k9 · 26-06-2016 05:05PM

D'Peoples Voice wrote: »

choosing to name a route after the Boeing 757 is mad - I'm not even sure any Irish airline fly them out of Dublin (I know Aer Lingus wet lease two from Shannon)
Boeing have stopped making them the last I heard, along with 747 which many airlines are now retiring ...

They could of gone.. 737 which is the Boeing aeroplane that Ryanair fly, the Boeing 787 though there are none yet at Dublin, or gone 320 which is the Airbus aeroplane of choice at Aer Lingus(and the world over) as is the 330.

I really don't think DB or 99% of people using the service care about the route number. Spotters will need to get over it.

BTW there are more 757 and 787 services out of DUB than 747!!

LXFlyer · 26-06-2016 05:43PM

D'Peoples Voice wrote: »

choosing to name a route after the Boeing 757 is mad - I'm not even sure any Irish airline fly them out of Dublin (I know Aer Lingus wet lease two from Shannon)
Boeing have stopped making them the last I heard, along with 747 which many airlines are now retiring ...

They could of gone.. 737 which is the Boeing aeroplane that Ryanair fly, the Boeing 787 though there are none yet at Dublin, or gone 320 which is the Airbus aeroplane of choice at Aer Lingus(and the world over) as is the 330.

There is actually a national structure to bus numbering aside from the Dublin City PSO network - operators are not free to number routes as they wish - the NTA issue route numbers.

Rashers72 · 26-06-2016 06:07PM

Wonder what the journey time is like peak time from Earlsfort Terrace to airport?

River Song · 27-06-2016 12:12AM

Rashers72 wrote: »

Wonder what the journey time is like peak time from Earlsfort Terrace to airport?

I'll be getting it around peak time on Tuesday for work, I'll report back.

mfceiling · 27-06-2016 07:03AM

River Song wrote: »

I'll be getting it around peak time on Tuesday for work, I'll report back.

So expect to hear from you some time on Thursday then...

LXFlyer · 27-06-2016 07:05AM

Rashers72 wrote: »

Wonder what the journey time is like peak time from Earlsfort Terrace to airport?

I'd imagine 45-50 minutes.

I'd say normal journey time is 35 mins or thereabouts.

Dublin Bus New Airlink 757

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