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British Labour MP shot near Leeds (mod warning in first post)

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  • #272
    Jayop
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    I'm usually a fan of the spectator but that was pure drivel.

    It's really not.


  • #273
    KingBrian2
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    catbear wrote: »
    I reckon the next abortion referendum will be very divisive.

    That is why it is important for calm and intelligent debate to be allowed and not sensationalist and sweeping allegations be made.:(

    Only by communicating through lively conversations and with a tolerant manner can people agree and move forward on making good decisions.


  • #274
    PressRun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭PressRun


    I actually feel sad that the first time I ever heard about her was because of her murder. There are so many politicians clogging up the airwaves who are genuinely divisive and preoccupied with serving their own interests, and by contrast she seemed like a compassionate individual who wanted to make a real difference. It's really a tragedy that she won't achieve her full potential in politics, and an even bigger tragedy that her children have had their mother snatched from them in such an abrupt and violent way.


  • #275
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,689 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I'm usually a fan of the spectator but that was pure drivel.

    Where exactly is the drivel?


  • #276
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Jayop wrote: »

    "The Labour Party is now a threat to our national security, our economic security and your family's security."

    The Prime ****ing minister said that. Are you surprised that some unstable nutcase took the message and decided to do something to protect their families security?

    Got a link for that???


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  • #277
    Jayop
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    That is why it is important for calm and intelligent debate to be allowed and not sensationalist and sweeping allegations be made.:(

    Only by communicating through lively conversations and with a tolerant manner can people agree and move forward on making good decisions.

    Unfortunately, one side of the debate will pedal lies and drag the entire thing down. The exact same people who were given airtime to do the same in the last referendum here.


  • #278
    Jayop
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    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Got a link for that???

    Check the last page. It was a tweet from his twitter account. Someone linked it.


  • #279
    whatstherush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭whatstherush


    Here's Tommy out and about with his mates

    https://twitter.com/Far_Right_Watch/status/743870968133750784?s=03


  • #280
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,689 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Got a link for that???

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100070149&postcount=254


  • #281
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100070149&postcount=254

    On the 13th of September 2015!!! Prob referring to Corbyn saying he would not push the button to launch nukes.

    Wtf has that tweet got to do with recent events?!


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  • #282
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    whatstherush wrote: »
    Here's Tommy out and about with his mates

    https://twitter.com/Far_Right_Watch/status/743870968133750784?s=03

    The "anti-fascist" fascists also know how to use twitter.


  • #283
    stefanovich
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    prinzeugen wrote: »
    On the 13th of September 2015!!! Prob referring to Corbyn saying he would not push the button to launch nukes.

    Wtf has that tweet got to do with recent events?!

    They are going to milk this for everything it is worth.


  • #284
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    whatstherush wrote: »
    Here's Tommy out and about with his mates

    https://twitter.com/Far_Right_Watch/status/743870968133750784?s=03

    Did BF say they had no idea who he was? The far right is very worried about this.


  • #285
    Jayop
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    prinzeugen wrote: »
    On the 13th of September 2015!!! Prob referring to Corbyn saying he would not push the button to launch nukes.

    Wtf has that tweet got to do with recent events?!

    WTF would someone mention a thread where the PM said a particular party is a thread to everyone's family security and less than a year later a member of that party is murdered because of her political views??

    Are you for real?? It's being mentioned as an example of the kind of dangerous language that the right has been getting away with using for far too long.


  • #286
    whatstherush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭whatstherush


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    Did BF say they had no idea who he was? The far right is very worried about this.

    Not just the far right, Louise mensch and brietbart have just got it right up the hole with the dribble they have been posting all day.


  • #287
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    ITV News saying that police and counter-terrorism agencies are investigating his links to right-wing extremist groups 'as a priority'

    First time I've heard it stated as a matter of fact


  • #288
    dav3
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    They are going to milk this for everything it is worth.

    Who is "they"?


  • #289
    Its dead Jim
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    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    Did BF say they had no idea who he was? The far right is very worried about this.

    Don't think they said he wasn't a member, just that they weren't involved and don't endorse it.
    whatstherush wrote: »
    Not just the far right, Louise mensch and brietbart have just got it right up the hole with the dribble they have been posting all day.

    Dribble is a nice way of putting what breitbart produces. I think of a different orifice for where their ideas come from.


  • #290
    prinzeugen
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    Jayop wrote: »
    WTF would someone mention a thread where the PM said a particular party is a thread to everyone's family security and less than a year later a member of that party is murdered because of her political views??

    Are you for real?? It's being mentioned as an example of the kind of dangerous language that the right has been getting away with using for far too long.

    You seem to forget that she was getting hate mail for a year or two. Its one nutjob.

    Nothing to do with the "right"..

    Same happened to Jill Dando.


  • #291
    RayM
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    This short article on the London Review of Books website is really good.

    "If politicians and the media tell people their ‘way of life is under threat’ often enough, people will believe them. Politicians and the media aren’t responsible for Cox’s death, but they are responsible for creating a toxic climate in which hatred has won out and is deemed an acceptable response to anger."


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  • #292
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    Its dead Jim wrote: »
    Don't think they said he wasn't a member, just that they weren't involved and don't endorse it.



    Dribble is a nice way of putting what breitbart produces. I think of a different orifice for where their ideas come from.

    "and the that suspect was “categorically not a member” of the group."

    http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_5762f6a6e4b0681487dcdcc1?edition=uk


  • #293
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    prinzeugen wrote: »
    You seem to forget that she was getting hate mail for a year or two. Its one nutjob.

    Nothing to do with the "right"..

    Same happened to Jill Dando.

    I would totally agree with you if every lone wolf nutter attacking innocent people was not stated to be a Muslim first.


  • #294
    unseenfootage
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    whatstherush wrote: »
    Here's Tommy out and about with his mates

    https://twitter.com/Far_Right_Watch/status/743870968133750784?s=03

    There was some doubt whether this Terrorist Tommy shouted "Britain First" or "Put Britain First"

    This photo should put that doubt to rest.


  • #295
    Its dead Jim
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭Its dead Jim


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    "and the that suspect was “categorically not a member” of the group."

    Fair enough. I was going by their previous statement.


  • #296
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    Its dead Jim wrote: »
    Fair enough. I was going by their previous statement.

    I'm shocked hate filled group lies well like much of what they say it's lies.


  • #297
    prinzeugen
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    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    I'm shocked hate filled group lies well like much of what they say it's lies.

    As does most groups. Spin the facts to **** to try and gain.. ****ing sad that people would use someone's death for that but watch Labour, or rather Corbyn, will try to use it.


  • #298
    KingBrian2
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    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    "and the that suspect was “categorically not a member” of the group."

    http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_5762f6a6e4b0681487dcdcc1?edition=uk

    The media is not getting its story straight. First he said "Britain First". Then we are told he was member of a far right club and now multiple reports say he said other words and he was not a member of any political group. What can we believe!


  • #299
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    prinzeugen wrote: »
    As does most groups. Spin the facts to **** to try and gain.. ****ing sad that people would use someone's death for that but watch Labour, or rather Corbyn, will try to use it.

    As if Trump or whoever has not jumped on every crime that suits their agenda and make light of those that don't.


  • #300
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The media is not getting its story straight. First he said "Britain First". Then we are told he was member of a far right club and now multiple reports say he said other words and he was not a member of any political group. What can we believe!

    Funny how no one questions the media when it's a mental deranged Muslim.


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  • #301
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The media is not getting its story straight. First he said "Britain First". Then we are told he was member of a far right club and now multiple reports say he said other words and he was not a member of any political group. What can we believe!
    Well if this is actually confirmed to be him, then it's fairly damning.
    whatstherush wrote: »
    Here's Tommy out and about with his mates

    https://twitter.com/Far_Right_Watch/status/743870968133750784?s=03


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