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British Labour MP shot near Leeds (mod warning in first post)

  • 16-06-2016 02:42PM
    #1
    RobertKK
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    Labour MP Jo Cox is in a critical condition after being shot while doing constituency work.
    A 52 year old man has been arrested.




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  • #2
    Irish Halo
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    Jo Cox was shot after she had one of her regular surgeries and is on the remain side of the debate, the attacker is reported to have been a Britain First supporter.


  • #3
    RobertKK
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    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/16/labour-mp-jo-cox-shot-in-west-yorkshire

    Jo Cox was shot twice and stabbed.

    A passer by came to her aid.


  • #4
    RobertKK
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    Yesterday she had been on the flotilla on the Thames, from a bit of fun yesterday to absolute tragedy today.


  • #5
    [Deleted User]
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    I hope she's alright.

    That's the end of Brexit.


  • #6
    RobertKK
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    Seems she is in a bad way fighting for her life :(
    In a critical condition with serious injuries.


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  • #7
    RWCNT
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    That's the end of Brexit.

    I seriously doubt that, but hope that you're right.

    Absolutely mental stuff.


  • #8
    Stheno
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    Seems she is in a bad way fighting for her life :(
    In a critical condition with serious injuries.

    That's awful. God love her family trying to cope


  • #9
    Lollipops23
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    Christ that's horrific. I know we can only speculate at this stage, but why would a Britain First supporter attack her? She's white and English....not their usual type of target.


  • #10
    Irish Halo
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    This will be framed by the Brexit campaign but feel that it won't be the root cause*.

    I hope she recovers and the person responsible faces justice.





    * God I hope not, I mean the Brexit is serious business but not kick, stab and shoot a politician big deal.


  • #11
    Raging_Ninja
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    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    Christ that's horrific. I know we can only speculate at this stage, but why would a Britain First supporter attack her? She's white and English....not their usual type of target.

    Because she wants to stay in the EU and let all the brown people in to steal our jobs, social welfare and women, innit


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  • #12
    My name is URL
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    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    Christ that's horrific. I know we can only speculate at this stage, but why would a Britain First supporter attack her? She's white and English....not their usual type of target.

    They see remain campaigners as an enemy whoa re enabling an 'occupation'

    They're fcuked in the head. They've also threatened the London mayor, in case anyone is under the illusion that this was just some random act by a lone nutter. The group openly encourages and has threatened violence

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/sadiq-khan-britain-first-london-mayor-threaten-direct-action-a7047991.html


  • #13
    VinLieger
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    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    Christ that's horrific. I know we can only speculate at this stage, but why would a Britain First supporter attack her? She's white and English....not their usual type of target.

    Cus they are clueless idiots?


  • #14
    RobertKK
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    She has two young children.

    All this gun crime would make one angry, it is everywhere.


  • #15
    wes
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    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    Christ that's horrific. I know we can only speculate at this stage, but why would a Britain First supporter attack her? She's white and English....not their usual type of target.

    Same reason that Brevik attacked a left wing youth organization, in that terrorists of that political persuasion hate Liberals just as much if not more.

    Of course, we should be cautious as we don't have the whole story yet, and as we have seen in the past, more details may come out later, giving use a different picture.

    Either way this is an awful attack, and I hope the MP will pull through.


  • #16
    RobertKK
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    As well as being stabbed and shot twice, she was also dragged along the street by her hair.
    It would make one feel sick.


  • #17
    Raging_Ninja
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    As well as being stabbed and shot twice, she was also dragged along the street by her hair.
    It would make one feel sick.

    Eyewitness accounts I read haven't said that, where'd you see it?


  • #18
    Kristopherus
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/16/labour-mp-jo-cox-shot-in-west-yorkshire

    She was seen on the ground on the street and being kicked, then a passer by saw it happening, came to her aid, he then produced a gun and shot the politician, two shots were fired.
    It also believed she was stabbed.

    I think you may have to rephrase the bolded bit. You give the impression that it was the passerby who shot her:confused:.


  • #19
    RobertKK
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    Raging_Ninja wrote: »
    Eyewitness accounts I read haven't said that, where'd you see it?

    It was said on Sky News


  • #20
    Billy86
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    I take it we'll have all the same lads in here up in arms and calling for heads to roll, extreme measures etc in this thread, as we do whenever a Muslim does something similar.

    Any moment now...


  • #21
    RobertKK
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    I take it we'll have all the same lads in here up in arms and calling for heads to roll, extreme measures etc in this thread, as we do whenever a Muslim does something similar.

    Any moment now...


    It will be gun control being the problem...

    The weapon was a home made gun.


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  • #22
    nhunter100
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:
    That's the end of Brexit.

    You think the actions of one individual will sink a campaign such as Brexit? Tbh highly doubtful.


  • #23
    HensVassal
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    VinLieger wrote: »
    Cus they are clueless idiots?

    In what way?

    EDIT: I looked them up, I didn't realise they were a neo-nazi party. I thought BF was a mainstream movement that supported leaving the EU.


  • #24
    stoplooklisten
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    Bog Monster wrote: »
    Is there anyway we can pin this on the Muslims I wonder?
    Billy86 wrote: »
    I take it we'll have all the same lads in here up in arms and calling for heads to roll, extreme measures etc in this thread, as we do whenever a Muslim does something similar.

    Any moment now...

    The victim is the lady and her family.


  • #25
    Tabnabs
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    https://twitter.com/BBCLookNorth/status/743443793043722241


  • #26
    RobertKK
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    Saying now she was shot around the head area, and she was shot three times.

    Also she has three young children and herself, the husband and children were on the flotilla as a family yesterday.


  • #27
    [Deleted User]
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    From yesterday





    Members of Britain First have been in the Welsh mountains holding what they described as an “activist training camp”.

    A dozen people took part in the camp in the mountains of Snowdonia, where they said they learned things including self-defence, martial arts, knife defence, survival techniques, rough camping and mountain climbing.

    Describing their “knife defence” class, they wrote: “Knife defence and self defence is crucial to keeping our activists safe. Knives are prevalent in our society. We never want trouble but we refuse to leave our activists exposed.”

    A picture alongside the post showed a man holding what appeared to be a wooden ruler.

    Photos of the event were uploaded to Facebook which showed the group eating sausages, Pringles, tinned spaghetti and drinking Lucozade around the campfire.

    They even had time to enjoy a visit to Dolbadarn Castle to round off a weekend described as full of “camaraderie”.

    Britain First describes itself as a “loyalist” movement, with members who are “loyal to Queen and country” welcome to join.

    It regularly posts Islamophobic sentiments to its Facebook page.

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/britain-first-been-holding-activist-11474970

    If this guy turns out to be a member should they be listed as a terrorist organisation?


  • #28
    Coat22
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    A local cafe owner Clarke Rothwell saw what happened. He said she thought Jo Cox had been shot and stabbed.
    "I could hear a loud popping noise that sounded like a balloon burst - a loud balloon - and when I looked round there's a man stood there in his 50s with a white baseball cap on and a jacket with a gun, an old fashioned looking gun in his hand, and he shot this lady once and then he shot her again, she fell to the floor, lent over shot her once more in the face area."




    That is horrific stuff


  • #29
    My name is URL
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    riffmongous wrote: »
    If this guy turns out to be a member should they be listed as a terrorist organisation?

    Will this be considered an act of terrorism either way?

    I mean (assuming) it was a targeted attack based on a political ideology. That's pretty much the definition of terrorism isn't it?


  • #30
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Will this be considered an act of terrorism either way?

    I mean (assuming) it was a targeted attack based on a political ideology. That's pretty much the definition of terrorism isn't it?
    If she was the intended target then I think it has to go down as terrorism, similar to the murder of political activists back in Northern Ireland. For the group of course it depends on how deep his connections to them go if there are any, it could be he has nothing to do with them no more than shouting allahu akbar makes you a member of ISIS


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  • #31
    KERSPLAT!
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    I take it we'll have all the same lads in here up in arms and calling for heads to roll, extreme measures etc in this thread, as we do whenever a Muslim does something similar.

    Any moment now...

    Can you not discuss the topic at hand instead this wind up shîte. What does this add to the discussion!?


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