Mass shooting in Orlando Nightclub

stoplooklisten · 13-06-2016 01:08AM

Did anyone find out who the mystery man was?

https://twitter.com/niallboylan4fm/status/742031939549462528

Matt Markinson · 13-06-2016 01:09AM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You seem blind to the large segments of the Christian community that have it in for my community

Hopefully someday this "my communty" and "you must hate their community" shyte will stop in Ireland, and we start talking about our community.

RobertKK · 13-06-2016 01:09AM

Omar Mateen pledged allegiance to ISIS, in the past contacted a fellow US citizen who went to Syria and who then blew himself up.
Meanwhile in Syria, gay people are being thrown off buildings, stoned to death and God knows what other ways they have murdered gay people.
Mateen who associated himself with ISIS shoots over 100 people, most probably gay, but don't discuss the fact that Mateen is a radicalised Muslim as that is Islmaophobic

Sweetemotion · 13-06-2016 01:10AM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Really?

Has there been an outbreak of Somalian models throwing people off roofs in Ireland then?

Victim

WoolyJumper · 13-06-2016 01:11AM

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Did anyone find out who the mystery man was?

https://twitter.com/niallboylan4fm/status/742031939549462528

No, and I haven't found a credible source either. I would consider Niall a credible source

Sweetemotion · 13-06-2016 01:11AM

Gatling wrote: »

Of course they did ,

Means **** all though ,

It must have been Putin.

Its dead Jim · 13-06-2016 01:12AM

How quickly people turn against gay people when they don't agree with them. That's the right wing members I remember from before.

RobertKK · 13-06-2016 01:14AM

Its dead Jim wrote: »

Robert, I used to be a member around the time of the same sex marriage referendum. I remember many people who had strong views in a certain manner. Your name sticks out for me and it wasn't for being in favour of rights for gay people. There's no point pretending you have any concern about homophobia.

You should look back to the day of the results and you would see I congratulated the yes side and I said the people have spoken and I opposed anyone who went to court over the result.

Go and see before you start attacking me.

Gatling · 13-06-2016 01:14AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Mateen who associated himself with ISIS shoots over 100 people, most probably gay, but don't discuss the fact that Mateen is a radicalised Muslim as that is Islmaophobic

Man with a history of violence shoots dead 50 people and Injures 50 was allowed to buy a semi auto rifle and large amount of ammunition to carry out his attack,

A man with a history of violence radical Islam has nothing to do with it,

rjpf1980 · 13-06-2016 01:16AM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Well done Owen Jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEgd9q8ugs4

He can't admit that the murdering scumbag was taught to hate homosexuals by his religion which preaches that gays should die.

If this was a Christian or Jewish terrorist he would not have an issue with calling this a Christian or Jewish inspired attack because the Bible specifically says gays should be put to death and that they are going to hell.

He can't bring himself to face the truth and claims without evidence that the scumbag was homophobic independently of Islam even though the creep was heard screaming Allahu Akbar or God is Great as he shot the gays in the club plus he blames America's gun laws. How convenient?

Would he have killed as many without access to an assault rifle? Probably not but he might have killed a half dozen with a knife or run down many people with his car.

He was a murderous individual motivated by Islamic religious ideology that commanded him to kill gay people which he did.

Jones just can't face the truth.

Bannasidhe · 13-06-2016 01:16AM

lawlolawl wrote: »

Homophobia is a widely dying trend. Gay/bi/whatever people are becoming widely accepted by everyone other than religious headcases (as has always been the case).

Sorry to inform you that you are losing your special snowflake status

I'm bi and no one cares any more.

I certainly don't care but you may not want to visit North Carolina or Mississippi as the powers that be there do care and don't seem to have realised homophobia is a dying trend.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36104879

Sooo - 50 people murdered in homophobic attack, anti-LGBT laws introduced in U.S. States by Christian politicians prompting the UK government to issue a travel warning but homophobia is dying out and I'm not a special snowflakes cos no one cares you are bisexual.
The problem is Muslims.

K.

Minderbinder · 13-06-2016 01:18AM

Its dead Jim wrote: »

How quickly people turn against gay people when they don't agree with them.

what does this mean? turn against how? by giving a different opinion?

RobertKK · 13-06-2016 01:18AM

Gatling wrote: »

Man with a history of violence shoots dead 50 people and Injures 50 was allowed to buy a semi auto rifle and large amount of ammunition to carry out his attack,

A man with a history of violence radical Islam has nothing to do with it,

You should tell the FBI who are investigating it as Islamic terrorism.

Grayson · 13-06-2016 01:19AM

rjpf1980 wrote: »

Some Muslims have done FGM?

At study in 2005 showed that 95% of Egyptian women had undergone FGM.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL30168862

Since 2001 there have been thousands of terrorists attacks which have killed hundreds of thousands of people world wide.

Wars have exploded since 2001.

What are their commons links?

The overwhelming majority involve Islam.

How many LGBT or Jewish terrorist attacks have there been on Muslims in the past year?

How many attacks have there been on Jews and LGBT people this year by Muslims?

It is pretty clear that our problem is with Islam, a deeply violent intolerant faith followed by millions of dangerously intolerant ignorant and violent followers.

FGM isn't islamic. It's not in the Koran. It's a cultural thing. It's even practised by christians in the areas where it occurs. And it doesn't occur throughout the muslim world.

Terrorist attacks have not killed hundreds of thousands. Since 2006 32 thousand have been killed by terrorist attacks.

Between 1980 and 2006 90% of terrorist attacks were carried out by non muslims and only 6% were carried out by islamic extremists.

From 1970 onwards, of 2600 terror attacks on US soil, 60 were carried out by islamic extremists.

Meanwhile 150k were killed in the invasion of Iraq. Just to put it into perspective.

Yes, Jews do attack muslims sometimes. There has been a rise in price tag attacks recently. That's besides other settler violence. However I'd certainly never label jews as terrorists.

It's pretty clear to me that our problem is people who don't actually know what maths is and refuse to look up the statistics. They do however have a deep rooted fear of a religion which isn't actually dangerous.

Its dead Jim · 13-06-2016 01:20AM

Minderbinder wrote: »

what does this mean? turn against how? by giving a different opinion?

Calling a person "victim" is hardly a different opinion.

13-06-2016 01:21AM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Gosh.

Fundamentalist religions of all kinds is a threat

Yeah like all those fundamentalist Buddhists going around beheading people and raping women in Germany and Sweden. ALL religions are to blame.

When exactly are you going to wake up and take your head out of the sand?

This is not islamophobia, this is called acknowledging reality even if it's not how you'd like it to be.

Life is not some Hollywood movie with the good guys versus the bad guys.

Sometimes the bad guys (Donald Trump according to the media) are actually the ones you want on your side when sh*t goes down.

White Ninja · 13-06-2016 01:23AM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Well done Owen Jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEgd9q8ugs4

Why? Seemed a like a terribly unprofessional job to me, Sky should never have him on again.

Bannasidhe · 13-06-2016 01:23AM

Matt Markinson wrote: »

Hopefully someday this "my communty" and "you must hate their community" shyte will stop in Ireland, and we start talking about our community.

That will be the day people stop telling LGBTI people how good 'your' community has it now.

Gatling · 13-06-2016 01:24AM

RobertKK wrote: »

You should tell the FBI who are investigating it as Islamic terrorism.

Who twice investigated him and found nothing,

When they should be looking at why a person with a history of violence was able to legally purchase a semi automatic rifle and pistol used to carry out the attack

Bannasidhe · 13-06-2016 01:24AM

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Victim

LOL.

RobertKK · 13-06-2016 01:24AM

Mateen had recently started attending the local mosque a lot more than he had been, he was going to the mosque up to 4 times a week.
Yet his father claimed he was not very religious...

Gatling · 13-06-2016 01:26AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Mateen had recently started attending the local mosque a lot more than he had been, he was going to the mosque up to 4 times a week.
Yet his father claimed he was not very religious...

Maybe we should wait for the actual facts and not what's been claimed to suit a particular agenda

RobertKK · 13-06-2016 01:26AM

Gatling wrote: »

Who twice investigated him and found nothing,

When they should be looking at why a person with a history of violence was able to legally purchase a semi automatic rifle and pistol used to carry out the attack

That would not have stopped a terrorist if he had been denied access to legal firearms. He would have gotten them on the black market.

Grayson · 13-06-2016 01:27AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah like all those fundamentalist Buddhists going around beheading people and raping women in Germany and Sweden. ALL religions are to blame.

Fundamentalist Buddhists do kill people. There are even high ranking monks who preach it.

I hope you'll call for a ban on buddhists before they try to make us all eat tofu.

RobertKK · 13-06-2016 01:27AM

Gatling wrote: »

Maybe we should wait for the actual facts and not what's been claimed to suit a particular agenda

Just saying what CNN reported.

13-06-2016 01:28AM

Sweetemotion wrote: »

ISIS claimed responsibility for this attack.

ISIS are known for claiming responsibility for attacks which they had no part in, in order to make them look stronger than they are. I heard that they even claimed responsibility for the gangland shooting in the Regency in Whitehall, which we know was nothing to do with them.

Grayson · 13-06-2016 01:28AM

RobertKK wrote: »

That would not have stopped a terrorist if he had been denied access to legal firearms. He would have gotten them on the black market.

In the US the black market is the open market. You can buy a gun from the back of a van without a background check.

Not saying that it has anything to do with terrorism, just that it's nuts.

Bannasidhe · 13-06-2016 01:29AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah like all those fundamentalist Buddhists going around beheading people and raping women in Germany and Sweden. ALL religions are to blame.

When exactly are you going to wake up and take your head out of the sand?

This is not islamophobia, this is called acknowledging reality even if it's not how you'd like it to be.

Life is not some Hollywood movie with the good guys versus the bad guys.

Sometimes the bad guys (Donald Trump according to the media) are actually the ones you want on your side when sh*t goes down.

No.

You do not get to use the murder of LGBTI people to further your political agenda and spread fear.

Take your bigotry somewhere else. The Gay Community isn't buying.

Gatling · 13-06-2016 01:29AM

RobertKK wrote: »

That would not have stopped a terrorist if he had been denied access to legal firearms. He would have gotten them on the black market.

He's no more a terrorist than the other 100+ people who carried out mass shootings in the US this year alone

Call Me Jimmy · 13-06-2016 01:30AM

Have they ruled out that he was a terrorist?

Mass shooting in Orlando Nightclub

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